Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

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    Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    I know it was the Mariners but what a game.  He was flying under the radar for awhile but now he's simply destroying the competition.
     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    Destroying the Cy Young competition of the teams he faces?

    (Before tonight)

    WAR:

    CCSab  5.2
    Verl      5.1
    Weav   5.1
    Shields 3.4

    ERA:

    Weav  1.81
    Verl     2.24
    Sheil    2.53
    CCSab 2.62

    WHIP
    Verl     0.88
    Weav  0.95
    Shiel    1.01
    CCSab 1.14
     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

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    Destroying the Cy Young competition of the teams he faces? (Before tonight) WAR: CCSab  5.2 Verl      5.1 Weav   5.1 Shields 3.4 ERA: Weav  1.81 Verl     2.24 Sheil    2.53 CCSab 2.62 WHIP Verl     0.88 Weav  0.95 Shiel    1.01 CCSab 1.14
    Posted by moonslav59

    from espn.com.........

    Weaver gets to pitch in the AL West, against the weak-hitting Mariners and A’s, while Sabathia pitches in the AL East (although he doesn’t have to face the Yankees, of course). Baseball Prospectus tracks opponents’ OPS. Entering Tuesday’s game, Sabathia’s opponents' OPS was .753, Verlander’s .737 and Weaver’s .728. Sabathia’s will go down a bit after facing Seattle, but Weaver has played a slightly softer schedule. He’s made six starts against Oakland and Seattle and gone 4-1 against them, with eight runs in 45.2 innings (28 percent of his innings have come against the A’s and Mariners). 

     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    Sabathia is one of the best in the AL, maybe the best when factoring in longevity, but if the season ended today, I think Weaver and Verlander ultimately battle for it. Voters have put much less stock into wins in recent years while elevating the importance of WHIP, and rightfully so. That, combined with E.R.A. and Ks means Weaver and Verlander are still the front runners with Sabathia and Shields in the second tier, and Beckett maybe fifth at this point.
     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    I love Verlander. I wish we could get him.

    As for Sabathia?  Where's Jose when you need him?
     
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    I love Verlander. I wish we could get him. As for Sabathia?  Where's Jose when you need him?
    Posted by kimsaysthis
    Morning Kim, i totally get and respect your fandom, but it's not a crime to put laundry aside to appreciate good pitching wherever it's coming from.....no shot at you....just sayin...
     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    Verlander, Weaver, and CC are all having really good seasons, it's to early to say one has taken a big lead.
     
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    To CC its a contract year, no wonder.
     
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    To CC its a contract year, no wonder.
    Posted by BurritoT


    Same for Ortiz, no wonder.
     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    Do I hear $250 Million ????
     
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    I know it was the Mariners but what a game.  He was flying under the radar for awhile but now he's simply destroying the competition.
    Posted by SoxPatsCelts1988


    Both Verlander and Weaver have a better ERA and WHIP than CC and only one less win.  I don't see CC running away from anyone.
     
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    Do I hear $250 Million ????
    Posted by andrewmitch


    Between Papi and Ellsbury.....maybe
     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    Yeah Weaver is there right there and Verlander has been mighty flashy plus a division title is in hand......
     
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    Yeah Weaver is there right there and Verlander has been mighty flashy plus a division title is in hand......
    Posted by andrewmitch


    For CC and the Yanks, absolutely....good point and great insight, keep up the good work!
     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    CC lost 3 times to the Sox.  He pitches great against teams like Texas minus Hamilton or Toronto minus Bautista.  But healthy top teams?  He will get a few more chances against the Sox ... but IMO, until he beats them, no CY for Sab. 

    Beckett's ERA may drop below 2.0 .... then you have to consider him, epsecially if the Sox win the division.   And if he mows down the Yanks again.  
     
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    To CC its a contract year, no wonder.

    Posted by BurritoT

    Right, because it's not like CC has ever been dominant before.....he only saves that for contract years....geez.

     
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    CC lost 3 times to the Sox.  He pitches great against teams like Texas minus Hamilton or Toronto minus Bautista.  But healthy top teams?  He will get a few more chances against the Sox ... but IMO, until he beats them, no CY for Sab.  Beckett's ERA may drop below 2.0 .... then you have to consider him, epsecially if the Sox win the division.   And if he mows down the Yanks again.  

    Posted by soxmeister

    may....if....but....shoulda....woulda

    here's one for you......

    If a frog had a parachute then he wouldn't slap his @zz on the ground every time he hopped.

    Not to mention winning the division has nothing to do with it. Did you see hernandez get it last year?

     
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    a parachute would never open a such a low altitude.... no time.
     
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    Yeah Weaver is there right there and Verlander has been mighty flashy plus a division title is in hand......
    Posted by andrewmitch
    and a threat to one-hit ya every time he gets out of bed...
     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    If I'm right Babe was trying to reference are old friend Jimy Williams, "if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his boody".  No worries Babe, I think we get the jist, it would just be more helpful if you weren't such a "dumb broad".
     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    "may....if....but....shoulda....woulda

    here's one for you......

    If a frog had a parachute then he wouldn't slap his @zz on the ground every time he hopped.

    Not to mention winning the division has nothing to do with it. Did you see hernandez get it last year?"


    It will add up if Beckett's ERA is under 2.0. 
    Beckett:  2.07 ERA,  5.7 H/9
    CC          2.56 ERA,   7.6 H/9

    Like you insinuated with your Hernandez reference, wins and loses mean zip.    Beckett is BY FAR the better pitcher.  And again, CC has lost three times to the Sox.  Beckett owns the Yankees. 

    Nice frog reference though ... conjurs up pictures of CC's neckline. 

     
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    In Response to Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race. : may....if....but....shoulda....woulda here's one for you...... If a frog had a parachute then he wouldn't slap his @zz on the ground every time he hopped. Not to mention winning the division has nothing to do with it. Did you see hernandez get it last year?
    Posted by TheBabe-----------------


    If this was a Yankee forum; you'd still get banned daily.
     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    Right now it looks like a 3-man race, but there are a handful of sleepers who could have strong finishes to the season.  Verlander seems like the most likely to slip - right now Weaver gets my vote.
     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    In Response to Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.:
    "may....if....but....shoulda....woulda here's one for you...... If a frog had a parachute then he wouldn't slap his @zz on the ground every time he hopped. Not to mention winning the division has nothing to do with it . Did you see hernandez get it last year?" It will add up if Beckett's ERA is under 2.0.  Beckett:  2.07 ERA,  5.7 H/9 CC          2.56 ERA,   7.6 H/9 Like you insinuated with your Hernandez reference, wins and loses mean zip.    Beckett is BY FAR the better pitcher.  And again, CC has lost three times to the Sox.  Beckett owns the Yankees.  Nice frog reference though ... conjurs up pictures of CC's neckline. 
    Posted by soxmeister

    Innings pitched does mean something, though.  Beckett still has a shot, but he can't miss any more starts.


     
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    Re: Sabathia may be pitching at his best ever. Could be distancing himself in the Cy Young race.

    If Beckett continues to dominate, the RS win the division and get to the WS, and Beckett gets his IP up there (right now, he only has 19 starts, but his IP is 50-60 less than Weaver, Verlander, and CC, who have 22/23 starts), he would establish himself as a more viable candidate IMO than Sabathia. WHIP is better, team does better, ERA is lower, both pitch in the AL East, whichever leads his team further is the better candidate, I think.
     
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