Re: Salty/Russell Martin Debate
posted at 7/23/2011 2:22 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Salty/Russell Martin Debate
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Salty/Russell Martin Debate : You mean like being selected to the all star game by his peers? Do you know Martin had a 39% CS % last yr? Regardless, Statistics are what they are: Statistics; they are not all mighty decrees, but indicators, (I believe my opinion on this matter has some weight, since I have an M.S. in Statistics from Stonybrook, and not the cookbook watered down curriculum version either) even worse; the new fangled & artificially processed statistical measures , which are still evolving, especially on defense. In summary, apparrently, just like your prediction about the Yankees doing an el-folderoo, we're not going to agree on this matter. Give it a rest.
Posted by nhsteven[/QUOTE]
I think what you are trying to suggest with your All-Star argument is that players regard Martin as the best defensive Catcher in the league. That's a distortion - the truth is, despite his free-fall, Martin's offensive numbers were in the top 5 in the league at the time of the vote, and even then I would bet that many players voting were not aware of how drastically they had fallen off. Think about it - they didn't vote for Wieters. Are you going to tell me the consensus opinion around the league is that Russell Martin is a better defensive Catcher than Matt Wieters?
Martin is now in the bottom 5 offensively, and you can bet if the vote were taken today, the outcome would be different. Also, Ron Washington is one of Martin's peers, and you notice that the one position player who did not get into the All-Star Game on the AL side was Russell Martin, so what does that tell you?
If you're all done with the Salty/Russell Martin Debate, that's fine. You can just stop replying on the "Salty/Russell Martin Debate" thread.