Same OLD story for Yankees

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    You do not know me if you do not understand that I view "innovations" like the wildcard, DH, unbalanced schedule, luxury tax imposed on a team or two and interleague play as a bunch of garbage designed to make the game less competitive, but more "entertaining" to a larger audience and increase fan interest.  I understand marketing strategies.  Teams, including the Yankees, who get to the postseason via the wildcard (they did last year and it was not the first time) are what I refer to as going in through the bathroom window.  Winning or losing today is much more about good luck at the right time rather than talent over the course of a season.  The best teams in baseball during th regular season rarely win.  A Yankee win under that scenario would be enjoyed and savored (they always are) with an asterisk, but winning in what I would refer to as the "traditional" way is far, far more satisfying.  I have been privileged to live long enough to experience the greatest run in WS history when the Yankees won 5 in a row on a "level playing field" financially believe it or not. The payroll differentials between competing teams of that era were insignificant (often a $1000 dollar or so in team payroll).  The ensuing championships in the 1970's, 1990's and finally 2000's where money ultimately became a major factor during the Steinbrenner era and continues through the present.  The Boston Red Sox had the wealthiest owner in the game from the time I was born until I graduated college.  They spent as much or more money than any other team in baseball, including the Yankees and never finished higher than 3rd place.  Having money means that you can put an interesting and talented (on paper) team on the field night in and night out, but it in no way guarantees that you can "buy a championship." 
     
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    [QUOTE]Wow, at $164 million dollars the Red Sox actually have a winning record and the Yankees at $204 Million dollars might win the World Series, fans of both teams must be so proud of their achievements.  And when a light weight like the Giants or Reds win the World Series whats the excuse next? Pathetic 
    Posted by massillon8[/QUOTE]

    We live in an era of "bought championships" beginning in 2002.  The Yankees (once), the Phillies (once), Giants once and the Red Sox (twice) have all "bought" championships when one compares their team payrolls to those of the teams they ultimately competed against in the World Series with advantages ranging from 35% to 62%.  Anything above 33% would have to be considered a huge advantage.  Good news is that once in a while disadvantaged teams can in fact win a WS (Marlins vs Yankees in 2003 the best example). 
     
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    [QUOTE]WilcyMoore:"The Yankees have a huge run differential compared to their AL East opponents so far this year head to head record notwithstanding". Runs Toronto     300 NYY          297 Boston      296 Texas       291 RBI NYY          289 Boston      285 Toronto     283 Texas        274 BA Boston      .270 Texas        .264 Toronto      .263 Detroit       .262 KC             .259 Clev           .256 LAA            .255 Chi             .254 NYY            .251
    Posted by Your-Echo[/QUOTE]

    Runs scored plus runs surrendered equals run differential.  That's the formula and you can see it reflected daily in the standings at ESPN.com.  Enjoy the learning experience. 
     
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    Wilcy. do you have a link to your run differential statistics?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Same OLD story for Yankees : We live in an era of "bought championships" beginning in 2002.  The Yankees (once), the Phillies (once), Giants once and the Red Sox (twice) have all "bought" championships when one compares their team payrolls to those of the teams they ultimately competed against in the World Series with advantages ranging from 35% to 62%.  Anything above 33% would have to be considered a huge advantage.  Good news is that once in a while disadvantaged teams can in fact win a WS (Marlins vs Yankees in 2003 the best example). 
    Posted by WilcyMoore[/QUOTE]

    Bought Championships?  Sorry Guy but not buying it except for the Red Sox in 2004 and 2007 and the Yankees in 2009.  Every other Championship has been drafted and played for on the field.  I will even give the 1997 Marlins and the 2001 Diamondbacks the benefit of the doubt.  Funny how the excuses come out when for Both Yankee fan and Red Sox fan when the subject of money is brought up.  Its a pathetic system, I know but at $164 Million and then $204 Million we are supposed to say WOW, they won a World Series.  The Pathetic Sox don't make the Playoffs in 2006 and then spend over $200 Million in Contracts, beat the $60 Million payroll Indians in 7 games and celebrate like its some accomplishment.  The Yankees don't make the Playoffs in 2008, Go out and spend $400 Million, win the World Series in 2009 and then have the audacity to chest pound during some parade.  Last Year, spending $160 million the Red Sox didn't even make the playoffs, despite spending stupid money on Scutaro and Lackey. Then this year make a charity trade with the Padres to get A-Gon and buy Carl Crawford..  OH Wow, they are in first place, Theo is a genius, he is soooo brillant.. Pathetic .  Funny thing is as it turns out the Red Sox don't win in 2004 or 2007 without a little juice to the 3-4 hitters.  Your two moments of glory and the two best players on the team are juiced out of there minds.  Wow, they finally won the World Series, I wish .....(fill in the Blank here) was alive to see this.  He/She would have been so happy.  Yes sireeeee nothing like a bought and juiced championship to commerate a loved one. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Same OLD story for Yankees : Sort of like porn fluffers. 
    Posted by losmediasrojas[/QUOTE]

    I had to look that one up los.

    Embarassed

    But, I swear, some of my best friends have hyphenated names.
     
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    Massillon hates Boston and the Yankees equally but we only have to read his anti-Boston comments. Can you give us a link to your anti-Yankee comments on a Yankee forum? Thanks in advance. Have a nice night. I often go to the Yankee forums and have never seen you there.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Same OLD story for Yankees : Sort of like porn fluffers. 
    Posted by losmediasrojas[/QUOTE]

    Hyphenated-posters (aka hyphenated cyborgs) may make good porn fluffers, but this is hard to quantify. I'm sure they have some rather stiff competition.
     
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    Can't let it go away without mentioning how once AGAIN the brilliant and costly Burnett has failed to beat the Sox ... and was outpitched by our ancient Wakefield.   

    Is Burnett a  head case?  Yes.    He did pitch to Gonzo real well, hit outside corners, changed up ... but overall I would say that the whole Burnett deal has been a huge FAILURE.  As a Yankee, he hasn't beaten the Sox once.  So ....

    Wakefield  2 mil
    Burnett     16 mil

    Is there a worse contract than Burnett's?  Dice-K for sure.  But then again, Dice-K wasn't the Sox #2 starter. 

    Maybe if Burnett learned to actually pitch, and not just throw heat, he could be as good as Wakefield.   Learn from the pros.  Smile
     
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    In Response to Re: Same OLD story for Yankees:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Same OLD story for Yankees : Hyphenated-posters (aka hyphenated cyborgs) may make good porn fluffers, but this is hard to quantify. I'm sure they have some rather stiff competition.
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    ..keep it up harness, keep it up..
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Same OLD story for Yankees : ..keep it up harness, keep it up..
    Posted by small-package[/QUOTE]

    LOL, at least you didn't use your twitter picture for your avatar.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Same OLD story for Yankees : LOL, at least you didn't use your twitter picture for your avatar.
    Posted by MikeNagy[/QUOTE]

    I'de be happy to send it to you.
    Follow me on twitter.
     
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    Massillon forgot the effect of 19 players being on the DL including five starting position players in 2010 for the Red Sox. Does he know that Rizzo just got called by the Padres ( charity trade?).
     
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