Shaughnessy Irate About RS

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    Please. Can we stop this nonsense about a phony wild card and “playoffs?”

    You have a team with a $175 million payroll trotting out the likes of Daniel Nava and Pedro Ciriaco as designated hitters. It’s embarrassing and it does not deserve to be rewarded with excuse making and silly playoff dreams.

    Red Sox fans are not stupid.

    The Sox lost again Friday night, 10-3, in the Bronx. Since Sept. 1 the Sox are 56-71, yet still cling to the preposterous notion that they are part of baseball’s elite class. They make excuses about injuries and they try to keep you interested because they still have a chance at a one-game playoff and then . . . well, anything can happen, right?

    No. Curt Schilling, Pedro Martinez, Derek Lowe, and Johnny Damon are not walking through that door. You now have tin soldiers Adrian Gonzalez, Carl Crawford, and Jacoby Ellsbury.

    From 1962 through 1968, there were 10 teams in the American League and 10 teams in the National League. Finishing last meant finishing 10th and only one team from each league made the playoffs, a.k.a. the World Series.

    The baseball world is very different now. We have six divisions, one featuring only four teams. Ten of 30 major league teams will make the playoffs and you can finish in last place in the AL West and still say you are a fourth-place team.

    The Red Sox of the 1960s finished eighth twice and ninth twice. Sox fans were blessed to have the Washington Senators locked in the AL basement.

    If the old rules applied today, the Sox would be in 11th place in a 14-team American League. And there would be no hope of playing October baseball.

    Instead, they wrestle with their identity, after 100 games (hmm, wonder if they sang “100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall’’), still not sure if they are buyers or sellers as Tuesday’s trading deadline nears. They cannot decide if they are World Champion hopefuls or enduring yet another bridge year.

    Bobby Valentine Friday talked about this team possibly getting to 20 games above .500. That’s 42-20 the rest of the way. Is there anything to indicate that the Sox have a stretch like that in them?

    New York has won six of seven against the Sox this season. Boston has lost six of seven overall, sits in last place, two games under .500 and a whopping 11½ games behind the Yankees (12 in the loss column).

    In the midst of this horrible play, Sox ownership says nothing. CEO Larry Lucchino has appeared on team-sponsored/owned networks, but soccer obsessed John Henry and chairman Tom Werner continue to demonstrate that baseball doesn’t matter much anymore. Hope you caught the big AS Roma win over Liverpool at Fenway Wednesday night.

    Perfect. The Henry entity can’t even win a Friendly at Friendly Fenway.

    There was nothing friendly about the Sox’ reception in the Bronx. Boston failed to turn a routine double play in the first and it cost three runs. Aaron Cook had a very loud four innings — Raul Ibanez and Russell Martin each hit two-run homers.

    Into the breach Saturday we get smilin’ Jon Lester, who is 5-8 with a 5.46 ERA and allowed 11 earned runs in his last outing. Good thing Boston’s dueling pitching coaches, Bob McClure and Randy Niemann, are around to straighten things out.

    Stop the madness. Can everybody please stop pretending the Sox are about to go on a big run?

     The Yankees are so much better (and so much better run) than the Red Sox it makes your hair hurt. Fox and ESPN are here for “big rivalry” games Saturday afternoon and Sunday night, but the notion of a rivalry has become little more than a reflex response. Many Yankees beat writers took the night off Friday. The Sox just aren’t worth it anymore.

    Your Red Sox have not won a playoff game since 2008 and are about to miss the playoffs for the third straight season.

    Injuries, right? Hard luck, right?

    The Yankees lost the greatest closer in baseball history for the season. They have lost Brett Gardner for the season. They never had Michael Pineda, the pitcher they acquired for Jesus Montero. CC Sabathia went on the disabled list. Andy Pettitte broke his ankle and Alex Rodriguez broke his hand.

    “This group has been through it before and been able to overcome it,’’ said manager Joe Girardi.

    Unlike You Know Who, scuffling in the cellar, waiting for the return of the varsity.

    “There’s been a lot of stuff going on,’’ Valentine acknowledged in an exhaustively long pregame presser. “But I think we’re headed in the right direction. I don’t see things going backward.’’

     “A lot of stuff going on.”

    There’s an understatement. There was a fire in the Red Sox front office at Fenway during spring training and on Friday Boston police reported that somebody stole Wally the Green Monster.

    The Wally heist turned out to be a misunderstanding. But Fenway this year really is where amazing happens. Just not a lot of winning.

     
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    Boom goes the dynamite!

    What could the Sox get for Jacoby Ellsbury?  Could we trade him for Josh Johnson or James Shields?
     
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    This will just bring out the Shaughnessy haters.  It's the media's fault that the Sox are losing. Yeah , yeah , that's it. The media and those lousy umps. Why , if it wasn't for them , we would be in first place. We have a great team. Just wait until the " reinforcements " return.
     
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    Probably could have stopped the thread title at Shaughnessy Irate, but I digress.

    Acually for once Dan is timely on this.  But now that each writer has said the same thing multiple times, they need to look for a fresher angle.
     
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    [QUOTE]This will just bring out the Shaughnessy haters.  It's the media's fault that the Sox are losing. Yeah , yeah , that's it. The media and those lousy umps. Why , if it wasn't for them , we would be in first place. We have a great team. Just wait until the " reinforcements " return.

    The guy is negative and trying even in the best of times.  I suppose that makes me a hater.  I stopped reading him three years ago. 

    Now when there really is reason to be concerned, I am not at all surprised he's going the extra mile toward expressing his professional stand of being unable to find anything palatable ..
     
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    This is the second such article I've read today. There was an even stronger one
    by Kirk Minihane on WEEI.com, asking when the spin will stop.
    He said the Red Sox are insulting the intelligence of the fans with all this wishful thinking, that defies the facts.
    I'm sick of Cherington, Lucchino, Henry, Werner, NESN, Merloni, Wakefield, and all the other shills out there, for whom this team can do no wrong.
    Blow this team up. Find a way to get out of or minimize the toxic contracts Theo gave to Crawford, Beckett, Dice K, Gonzalez, Lackey et al.
    Trade Ellsbury in the off season.
    Let Ortiz walk. His complaining and me first attitude isn't conducive to a young team. Take the 12 million and spend it elsewhere.
    Start the purge and rebuild around Middlebrooks, and force feed guys like Bradley.
    I'd rather see that, than a bunch of bloated, underachieving, overpaid, fat cats, with a sense of entitlement, that we have now.
     
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    [QUOTE]Thanks for posting this, I've missed Shaughnessy's take on things since the Globe made his column subscription only. And he's right.
    Posted by davetheknave[/QUOTE]
     
    i hate the have to pay for Curly
     
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    [QUOTE]Thanks for posting this, I've missed Shaughnessy's take on things since the Globe made his column subscription only. And he's right.
    Posted by davetheknave[/QUOTE]


    I wonder if the Globe endorses cutting and pasting a "pay only" article such as you do? Sorry to be rude about a blatant violation of BDC policy your highness.
     
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    Has Bob Ryan retired?
     
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    [QUOTE]Thanks for posting this, I've missed Shaughnessy's take on things since the Globe made his column subscription only. And he's right.
    Posted by davetheknave[/QUOTE]

    And if what the Sox are paying the likes of Crawford, Lackey, Beckett, and Gonzalez is outlandish, than.99 cents is definitely way too much to pay for this stiff's usual rantings!
     
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    We need to hear what Jim has to say.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7fjDS0jKiE
     
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    Here is the ONLY way this farce will stop: DON'T GO TO THE GAMES UNLESS YOU INTEND TO BOO FOR NINE INNINGS! Hurt Henry in the wallet and things will begin to change. Until then this team will stink stink stink.
     
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    Let's be honest if the Sox sell this year they are a 500 team next year. If they pick up a Johnson they improve this year and are better next year. The Sox need to start improving the roster now, it is not like they have a bunch of one year deals they could cash in or have a superstar other than Ellsbury they could get big prospects on. They need pitching and they needed a month ago.
     
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    [QUOTE]The issue is in the GM's office. Totally incompetent. The market has the answer to the construction flaw, but we get that loser 30 million a year face of Ellsbrick and Crawbust. The overpiad Big Labor is indolent and making obscene profits with no accountability for mialing it in. Whoever the labor representative is for the Red Sox needs to be called into the GM's office and instructed that he's about to be traded to whatever team offers to pay the highest percentage of his foolish contract from the last inepet GM.     
    Posted by TrotterNixon[/QUOTE]

    An Obama-free comment! Unbelieveable! Although I started getting nervous when I saw the term overpaid Big Labor.

    To save face. I believe they shall clean house at the end of the year (BC, BV, coaches, etc), while thanking them for their meritorious service and the patience of the fans (including rolling out the farcicial sellout streak, if they can still claim that)
     
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    Shaugnessey is not irate.

    He's delighted when the Red So xar eterrible and have bad attitudes.
     
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    "...Here is the ONLY way this farce will stop: DON'T GO TO THE GAMES ..."

    Don't go to the games?

    I don't even watch them on live TV anymore, what with all the raving about sellout streaks and soccer games, and the hour and forty two mintues it takes Beckett to get ready for the next pitch.

    I record the game, then zip through it later. Maybe.

    If I hear the score ended, say, 9 to 1, then I may not watch it at all.


     
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    The best thing about the pay wall at BDC is that I'm not even tempted to read any tripe by CHB ever anymore. Now maybe if Leigh Montville were writing the baseball column I might pay, or maybe Alex Speier...
     
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    [QUOTE]The best thing about the pay wall at BDC is that I'm not even tempted to read any tripe by CHB ever anymore. Now maybe if Leigh Montville were writing the baseball column I might pay, or maybe Alex Speier...
    Posted by carnie[/QUOTE]

    I never read Shaughnessy much, the Maine newspapers seem to have reporters who are less controversial and opinionated. I normally read the Bangor, Portland, and Kennebec newspapers.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Shaughnessy Irate About RS : I never read Shaughnessy much, the Maine newspapers seem to have reporters who are less controversial and opinionated. I normally read the Bangor, Portland, and Kennebec newspapers.
    Posted by Clamshack[/QUOTE]I haven't read the KJ since I was a kid. Do they still call it the Kennebec Journal?
     
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    [QUOTE]Please. Can we stop this nonsense about a phony wild card and “playoffs?” You have a team with a $175 million payroll trotting out the likes of Daniel Nava and Pedro Ciriaco as designated hitters. It’s embarrassing and it does not deserve to be rewarded with excuse making and silly playoff dreams. Red Sox fans are not stupid. The Sox lost again Friday night, 10-3, in the Bronx. Since Sept. 1 the Sox are 56-71, yet still cling to the preposterous notion that they are part of baseball’s elite class. They make excuses about injuries and they try to keep you interested because they still have a chance at a one-game playoff and then . . . well, anything can happen, right? No. Curt Schilling, Pedro Martinez, Derek Lowe, and Johnny Damon are not walking through that door. You now have tin soldiers Adrian Gonzalez, Carl Crawford, and Jacoby Ellsbury. From 1962 through 1968, there were 10 teams in the American League and 10 teams in the National League. Finishing last meant finishing  10th  and only one team from each league made the playoffs, a.k.a. the World Series. The baseball world is very different now. We have six divisions, one featuring only four teams. Ten of 30 major league teams will make the playoffs and you can finish in last place in the AL West and still say you are a fourth-place team. The Red Sox of the 1960s finished eighth twice and ninth twice. Sox fans were blessed to have the Washington Senators locked in the AL basement. If the old rules applied today, the Sox would be in 11th place in a 14-team American League. And there would be no hope of playing October baseball. Instead, they wrestle with their identity, after 100 games (hmm, wonder if they sang “100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall’’), still not sure if they are buyers or sellers as Tuesday’s trading deadline nears. They cannot decide if they are World Champion hopefuls or enduring yet another bridge year. Bobby Valentine Friday talked about this team possibly getting to 20 games above .500. That’s 42-20 the rest of the way. Is there anything to indicate that the Sox have a stretch like that in them? New York has won six of seven against the Sox this season. Boston has lost six of seven overall, sits in last place, two games under .500 and a whopping 11½ games behind the Yankees (12 in the loss column). In the midst of this horrible play, Sox ownership says nothing. CEO Larry Lucchino has appeared on team-sponsored/owned networks, but soccer obsessed John Henry and chairman Tom Werner continue to demonstrate that baseball doesn’t matter much anymore. Hope you caught the big AS Roma win over Liverpool at Fenway Wednesday night. Perfect. The Henry entity can’t even win a Friendly at Friendly Fenway. There was nothing friendly about the Sox’ reception in the Bronx. Boston failed to turn a routine double play in the first and it cost three runs. Aaron Cook had a very loud four innings — Raul Ibanez and Russell Martin each hit two-run homers. Into the breach Saturday we get smilin’ Jon Lester, who is 5-8 with a 5.46 ERA and allowed 11 earned runs in his last outing. Good thing Boston’s dueling pitching coaches, Bob McClure and Randy Niemann, are around to straighten things out. Stop the madness. Can everybody please stop pretending the Sox are about to go on a big run?  The Yankees are so much better (and so much better run) than the Red Sox it makes your hair hurt. Fox and ESPN are here for “big rivalry” games Saturday afternoon and Sunday night, but the notion of a rivalry has become little more than a reflex response. Many Yankees beat writers took the night off Friday. The Sox just aren’t worth it anymore. Your Red Sox have not won a playoff game since 2008 and are about to miss the playoffs for the third straight season. Injuries, right? Hard luck, right? The Yankees lost the greatest closer in baseball history for the season. They have lost Brett Gardner for the season. They never had Michael Pineda, the pitcher they acquired for Jesus Montero. CC Sabathia went on the disabled list. Andy Pettitte broke his ankle and Alex Rodriguez broke his hand. “This group has been through it before and been able to overcome it,’’ said manager Joe Girardi. Unlike You Know Who, scuffling in the cellar, waiting for the return of the varsity. “There’s been a lot of stuff going on,’’ Valentine acknowledged in an exhaustively long pregame presser. “But I think we’re headed in the right direction. I don’t see things going backward.’’  “ A lot of stuff going on.” There’s an understatement. There was a fire in the Red Sox front office at Fenway during spring training and on Friday Boston police reported that somebody stole Wally the Green Monster. The Wally heist turned out to be a misunderstanding. But Fenway this year really is where amazing happens. Just not a lot of winning.
    Posted by nhsteven[/QUOTE]

    Shaughnessy isn't telling anyone anything our "die hard fans" don't already know.  Bobby V. has tried to keep things together but he was walking into an impossible task to begin with.  Our FO has a lot of work/salary eating/dumping to do before getting much better. Maybe dump Larry's salary to help Henry ease the pain a bit?
     
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