Re: Shortstops: All Bat VS All Glove.
posted at 3/3/2013 12:15 PM EST
In response to craze4sox's comment:
Iggy may be the best fielder in MLB, if he was there. He might make a handful more errors than the top Flg% SS, but he makes up for that with his exceptional range.
In response to SpacemanEephus' comment:
In response to Alibiike's comment:
Was the whole point of your research to justify Drew at SS? I wonder what Renteria's numbers looked like before he came to Boston?
This is what is wrong with just looking at sabermetrics, it discounts so many other factors, especially the human element.
I don't think his position isn't about predicting Drew's success in Boston. It is simply suggesting that the value of all-glove-no-stick shortstops (Iggy) is overrated.
Great defense should never be overrated but Iggy hasn't exactly been so great defensively we should overlook the lack of offense and place him in the starting lineup. He is still young and most fans have always expected too much, too quickly from him but I think "like Salty" he needs to improve his bat in the next year or two to stay in our organization.
He's 23. He has over 1,000 PAs in the minors plus over 300 in Cuba.
On Salty, I think you are expecting too much on offense from the catching position. Salty's numbers are better than you and many think they are.
He had a .742 OPS last year, a .737 OPS the year before and has a career OPS or .720.
How do those numbers compare to MLB team catcher numbers?
.742 would be 10th (just .001 from 9th).
.737 would be 11th (just .002 from 10th).
.720 would be 11th.
15 MLB teams had a catcher OPS below .700
8 below .663.
5 below .638.
4 below .616.
2 below .600.
The league average catcher OPS in 2013 was .717. Salty was above average and is on an upward trend at age 28.
The MLB average catcher line in 2013:
(720 PAs) .247 21 84 (OBP .310/ SLG .399)
Salty in 2013:
(448 PAs) .222 25 59 (.288/.454)
Salty's career at 162 games:
(592) .239 22 72 (.302/.418)
Est. at 720 PAs (league avg team PAs in 2013)
.239 25 88 (.302/.418)
I think his bat will improve, but it is his fielding that needs to continue growth to stick around in our organization.