Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    You want the best return possible start the trade talk ASAP--Dice & Cook will be off the DL in two weeks, Padilla can be inserted into the rotation--I would trade him to anyone including the Yankees. He will be just as valuable with the Yanks maybe even moreso in that they could carry him and his 4.5 ERA and beat the Jay's, Ray's and O's. In return two of their best pitching prospects or Gardner and their top pitching prospect.

    You may not have to look beyond the Yankees but I bet the Angels would soon get in the bidding.
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    If FO decides to unload Beckett, I'll try Josh Johnson of the Marlins.  Johnson is having the worst season in his career but he was one the most consistent ace in the league for past 4 yrs.  He's signed thru '13 at 13M a year so eating up Beckett's some portion would help more.  Add in Youk to play 1B for them ,if necessary, which will keep him healthy.  Sox also have to eat some of his portion.  Or Lars Anderson instead of Youk. 

     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    In Response to Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?:
    [QUOTE]PeteAbe Josh Beckett has already flown home. So there will be no beating a confession out of him.
    Posted by 2004Idiots[/QUOTE]

    Trade him. He doesn't care and who cares what you can get. If you have to eat $5M per, do it. Send him back to the National League. Send him to the Astros now, try and get Michael Bourn and prospects and be done with it.

    He is a cancer in the clubhouse.
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    Can't you waiver guys and if someone picks them up you owe nothing, the new team pays his salary? 
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

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    [QUOTE]Is he the "rotten apple" that Ben has to get rid of ASAP! Even if John Henry has to pick up most of his contract?
    Posted by 2004Idiots[/QUOTE]  Beckett is simply one of a number of problems on the 2012 Red Sox.  Years of coddling rather than structure under the benign watch of the epitome of a players' manager has apparently taken its toll in recent years.  That coupled with a series of ill-advised expensive long term acquisitions, lengthy contract extensions and a minor league system that has only produced two adequate "starting" pitchers over the past 5 years (Buchholz and Masterson) have culminated in the .500 team that is the 2012 Boston Red Sox with or without injuries.  They are neither a very good team nor a very bad team, but rather one which will please fans when they play well and frustrate them when they do not.  They are essentially a slightly above average team whose only path to the postseason would appear to be via a wildcard spot.  The addition of the extra playoff team gives them a better chance this year to come in through the back door than in recent years, but unfortunately the team does not appear to be as good as those that could be relied on to finish 2d in the division year in and year out.    
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    There are two sides to a trade.  1.) one team wants to move a player and 2.) another WANTS said player.

    Who wants Josh Beckett?  I'm pretty sure the other team managers have access to the internet.
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett? : Trade him. He doesn't care and who cares what you can get. If you have to eat $5M per, do it. Send him back to the National League. Send him to the Astros now, try and get Michael Bourn and prospects and be done with it. He is a cancer in the clubhouse.
    Posted by ADG[/QUOTE]
    Why would a noncontending team such as the Houston Astros want Josh Beckett for three years at $10.75 million a year?

    The Astros traded Michael Bourn to the Atlanta Braves at the trade deadline last year.
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    Everyone knows how tight the FO is with money this year and yet you think they will trade Youk or Beckett and eat part of that salary????  Hold your breath...
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    In Response to Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett? : Trade him. He doesn't care and who cares what you can get. If you have to eat $5M per, do it. Send him back to the National League. Send him to the Astros now, try and get Michael Bourn and prospects and be done with it. He is a cancer in the clubhouse.
    Posted by ADG[/QUOTE]

    I suggest you open a newspaper every 6 months or so.  Bourne got dealt to Atlanta last season......
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    The Yanks got rid of their head case, no production, expensive pitcher in Burnett.  Get rid of Beckett too.
     
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    In Response to Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?:
    [QUOTE]Can't you waiver guys and if someone picks them up you owe nothing, the new team pays his salary? 
    Posted by Mchampion[/QUOTE]

    I think so....But if you DFA then someone can pick him up for the min and the rest of the contract gets paid by the original team....I think!
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    It would be a big mistake
     
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    [QUOTE]If FO decides to unload Beckett, I'll try Josh Johnson of the Marlins.  Johnson is having the worst season in his career but he was one the most consistent ace in the league for past 4 yrs.  He's signed thru '13 at 13M a year so eating up Beckett's some portion would help more.  Add in Youk to play 1B for them ,if necessary, which will keep him healthy.  Sox also have to eat some of his portion.  Or Lars Anderson instead of Youk. 
    Posted by seannybboi[/QUOTE]

    So you think the Marlins, would trade their Ace, who is young and cost controlled, for and older, out of shape pitcher whos always,  not to mention that they traded him rather than sign him to an extension.  Definately wont happen even up, Th Sox would have to eat a ton of money and probably include Lavarnway and at least one more young player.  I would say Middlebrooks, but the Marlins dont need him
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    Get rid of the bum!
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    I'll take a box of baseballs for him but they have to be new!
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

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    [QUOTE]I'll take a box of baseballs for him but they have to be new!
    Posted by stan17[/QUOTE]  Options are always limited with guys like Beckett.  You can either deal him and eat a good share of his salary like the Yankees did with Burnett or you can find a trading partner who has a high salaried player they want to dump (Darren Oliver for Carl Everett for example).  The challenge is finding the other team that has screwed up and playing Let's Make a Deal. 
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    I think Ben should try to give away 2004 Idiots first, and see how that goes. Maybe Beckett wouldn't seem so bad after that.
     
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    Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?

    In Response to Re: Should Ben send a message and try to give away Josh Beckett?:
    [QUOTE]The Yanks got rid of their head case, no production, expensive pitcher in Burnett.  Get rid of Beckett too.
    Posted by Kamdog[/QUOTE]

    How is that working out for them? 

    Let me see - no Burnett in 2008.  No post-season.

    Burnett in 2009, WS

    Burnett in 2010, 1GB and a WC.

    Burnett in 2011, AL East pennant.

    No Burnett in 2012, 4th place.

    Is this a flawed argument?  Yes, but it's certainly not one that supports the "dump the pitcher for no one" model of team rebuilding.

    And Burnett, unlike Beckett, was never the Yankees' best pitcher...
     
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