should BRUCE CHEN walk thru those doors?

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    Bruce Chen had walked through the Red Sox clubhouse doors @ Fenway in 2003 for a total of 12.1  innings.

    He might be a good pick-up--the question would you rather have Peavy under control for another year?

    My thought the Sox may move Drew and ask for a pitcher in return from the Cards. I'm getting the feeling BenC is trying to go as long as possible without having to give up much hoping in the next week Workman will have another strong game, Lester will have another start and Dempster may have two starts.

    Rubby DLR starts tonight for the PawSox and as Remy talked about last night they are trying to figure out the roles in the current pen. Ue is the closer, Taz appears to be the #1 setup, Thornton-lefty specialist or tough guy against big hitters, Breslow early relief help 5 th or 6 th.

    Then you have Britton, DeLaTorre and Beato-how should they be best used--Farrell and staff need to figure those three out so they can prepare mentally for their call.

    Chen would be a nice addition--who else would have three lefty starters in their rotation and who's the odd man out...probably Dempster to the pen, long relief, spot starter, one out needed perhaps against a tough RH bat. Start Chen for 5 and Dempster 4 of long relief-same outing.

     

     
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    WASTIN away in KC with an under 2 ERA. saw the orioles game last night and he just stifled them. his stuff weirdly transfers well in the AL east. kc's going nowhere, should b far cheaper than one over the cliff lee. asume lest keeps it going and buch comes back as lack stays steady with dube.. thats a dominant rotation.. dempster is less of a dumpster in the bullpen, great K stuff in short spurts. he could b the bailey like guy or switch places with taz with workman and webster both on deck with renaudo, owens and de la rosa as the backup starters.

    great job in getting k-rod by the o's and stripping garza from the cubbies by the rangers.. we dont have to make the same splash but we must get something of quality.


    CC----the O's have made two stealth pics---Feldman for the rotation and K-Rod for set-up. I would say they are ready for the stretch drive.

     
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    Chen only started 2 games this season.  He was mostly used out of BP.  He ain't coming here to start.  

     
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    Chen only started 2 games this season.  He was mostly used out of BP.  He ain't coming here to start.  

     



    I didn't do my homework seannyBB, thanks for pointing my faux pas out--but I will say anybody carrying a 2 or better ERA in the AL can pitch in my pen as well as rotation anytime. At this point of his career he has been able to change speeds and get guys out. We need a little help---not much just a little.

     By the looks of Luke Hochevar's stats he has found a home in the pen. As a former 1 st pick in the draft--it's taken time for him to settle in and it appears he has probably learned from a pretty good closer valuable bullpen skills.

     
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    I don't believe that Bruce is on anyones radar. Nice soft tossing lefty. Bautista would hit .800 against him.

     

     
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    I like Bruce Chen.  He can get it done on par with Matt Garza but would come at a fraction of the cost in prospects.  Sneaky move for whoever gets him.  And, just cuz he has worked out of the pen doesn't mean he couldnt be stretched out and used as a starter.  He's a wily vet and knows what to do.           Pollyanna Pinkhat Left/Soc/Rad/Moonbat 
     
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    I think we should hold off for now. Try to acquire him if there is a one game playoff with the Rays.

    Stabbed by Foulke.

     
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    In response to MadMc44's comment:

    Bruce Chen had walked through the Red Sox clubhouse doors @ Fenway in 2003 for a total of 12.1  innings.

    He might be a good pick-up--the question would you rather have Peavy under control for another year?

    My thought the Sox may move Drew and ask for a pitcher in return from the Cards. I'm getting the feeling BenC is trying to go as long as possible without having to give up much hoping in the next week Workman will have another strong game, Lester will have another start and Dempster may have two starts.

    Rubby DLR starts tonight for the PawSox and as Remy talked about last night they are trying to figure out the roles in the current pen. Ue is the closer, Taz appears to be the #1 setup, Thornton-lefty specialist or tough guy against big hitters, Breslow early relief help 5 th or 6 th.

    Then you have Britton, DeLaTorre and Beato-how should they be best used--Farrell and staff need to figure those three out so they can prepare mentally for their call.

    Chen would be a nice addition--who else would have three lefty starters in their rotation and who's the odd man out...probably Dempster to the pen, long relief, spot starter, one out needed perhaps against a tough RH bat. Start Chen for 5 and Dempster 4 of long relief-same outing.

     




    1.        The Sox are NOT trading Stephen Drew.  They are in first place, and unlikely to make any sort of shakeup.  I know a lot of fans want him gone because they did not like his brother for some odd reason, but the Sox, if anything, will be looking to add left side infielders, not subtract them.

    2.       The Cardinals are NOT trading a starting pitcher.  If anything, they will be acquiring one.  The rotation has slowed down a bit, and it is looking less and less likely like Chris Carpenter will be any sort of savior for them.  They also have to deal with Second Half Lance Lynn, who is a very different pitcher from First Half Lance Lynn.  Shelby Miller is very likely on an innings limit.  Jake Westbrook can strain a tendon if you look at him funny.  They do have in-house kids, but might prefer a veteran they can run into the ground instead.

    3.       Dempster is NOT going to the pen.  If the Sox acquire another starter, Workman would be the odd man out.  Brandon might go to the pen, or he might go to AAA.  This is not up for debate, and the Sox organization does not care if you want to “see what the kids can do.”   Dempster is a veteran pitcher with a solid track record, albeit not one of spectacularity.  Workman is not, and is not going to get one this year.

    4.       Chen is nothing more than a spot starter.  I do view him as a realistic option for a team not looking to deal anything meaningful, but not much else.

    Britton, de la Torre and Beato should be used as depth.  The Sox need to get another arm for the pen at minimum, as they have already lost 3 relievers from the Opening Day bullpen for the season.  If nothing else,  keep all three of these guys somewhere in organization as depth so as to minimize bullpen overwork. 

     

    Don’t overestimate the need for pitchers to “prepare mentally for their call.”  Yes, some pitchers like having defined roles.  But not all do.  Some do not care, and some prefer not to.  Usually the ones who prefer defined roles are the ones in the higher paying roles (closer) or the ones who rely on their situation to remain employed (the LOOGY-type, or as Jeff Passan calls the “is left-handed, has pulse”) To me, this could mean they cling to their “need for mental preparation” as an excuse to remain there.  Has anyone ever heard of a long reliever complaining about being brought in to to face the tying run in the eighth inning?  Or a mop up guy bellyaching about a chance to get a save?  I didn’t think so.  Teams use bullpen arms outside of their defined roles EVERY DAY, and the only ones ever to complain about misuse are the closers and set-up guys who pitch poorly in non-save/no-hold situations.  The true bottom line is, every major leaguer is a competitor and itching to be out there pitching.  This is especially true of younger guys like Beato, Britton and de la Torre, who all should have a strong desire to establish themselves

     
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