Should Red Sox Trade for Outfielder or Starting Pitcher At Trade Deadline?

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    [QUOTE]KEEP Reddick, drop Drew, forget any trade other than for a pitcher. Repeat: Keep Reddick. And check the health of Gonzalez. Good hitters such as he don't just stop hitting; something may be wrong. 
    Posted by ALittleBitSouth[/QUOTE]

    Uh... yea they do, its called a slump.... and he will be fine he had 4 hits today.... and 2 for 24 after AS break really isnt a slump yet to me but too many posters or posers hit the panic button too often
     
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    [QUOTE]Miller can't throw strikes! Get a Hernandez type pitcher.
    Posted by jeffory[/QUOTE]

    He only gave up 1 hit today, and if we could have a Hernandez type pitcher he wouldve been here already, how do we get him, GM's other than Theo must b significantly slow or special eddies  i guess
     
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    [QUOTE]Impressed with what I saw from Weiland and Miller the past two games, but would not mind getting another solid starter, if the price was not too high.  The way Reddick has played diminishes the need for another rightfielder.  Don't really see the need for the Sox to do too much at the deadline. Would like to hold on to top prospects like, Lavarnway, Brentz, Ranaudo and Iglesias. 
    Posted by dgalehouse[/QUOTE]

    Right on Dgale and ad Middlebrooks to that list, big power hitting 3B dont grow on trees
     
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    They will wait until the last minute to assess their needs regarding starting pitching and RF. Inglesias is their future at SS and Scutaro and Lowrie are adequate bridges. Tek and Saltalamachia are adequate at catcher and nobody is available to replace them. Lavarnway is ready in the event that he is needed. Bullpen is looking very good in recent days. Ten more days to assess the health of Bucholz and Jenks and consistency of Lackey, Albers, Aceves.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Should Red Sox Trade for Outfielder or Starting Pitcher At Trade Deadline? : Right on Dgale and ad Middlebrooks to that list, big power hitting 3B dont grow on trees
    Posted by westcoastsox9[/QUOTE]
    Yes. Middlebrooks, too.  I think that he has played some shortstop also, although he seems better suited to third.  Could probably even learn to play some rightfield, should the need arise.
     
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    No more rent-a-sox. Who needs Beltran when we have Reddick?  Pitching is the main issue that needs to be addressed.  Starters and long relief. 
     
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    everything depends on the health of clay b (assuming john lester is fine) .... if he is a gone for the year then a starter is the priority, cant head into sep/oct with miller or weiland in the rotation, and doubront appears to have gone  backwards this season, wake as well cant be sure of his durability after last years injuries.

    only other priority is shortstop , scut is mediocre defensively at best, and hitting 260 doesnt make up for that. would love to see the sox go get reyes, even if it meant giving up kalish and iglesias, with the assumption sox can sign him to a long term contract in the off season, he's only 28 so is a long term solution if we can get him.

    im not worried about our left handed line up....ells, gonzo, and papi all hitting lefties well this season, and dmac can platoon with reddick in right. Drew's time is up, and we dont need beltran

     
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    Reddick has done very well, and should be playing until proven otherwise.

    But, the outfield is too lefthanded. Even in AAA. An immaginative trade would be to part for Reddick (and a couple of mid-level prospects) for somebody like Pence.   There is merit for both teams:
    - Red Sox upgrade RF and get more balanced (but more expensive and arbitration next year).  Also, no sense in keeping too many mid-level prospects.  They cannot protect all of them.
    - Astros get a cheaper and more controllable player that is on the verge of emerging, and restock their farm.  The Astros are not going anywhere this year or the next 2-3 years anyway.
     
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    i want a reliable LH reliever.
    assuming all starters get back before aug ends, the sox should be fine with their bats and sp.
    am comfortable with crawford-ellsbury-reddick in the of.
    infield, the only position i might upgrade is ss, but i don't think that is pressing. he is a pretty decent #9. if there is a defensive upgrade that does not cost much then fine.
    the rotation should be fine when buc and lester come back. 1-3 would be some order of beckett-lester-buc. 4-5 would lackey + wake/one of the younger sps.



     
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    Francoeur / Reddick  RF

    Drew DFA  No shame in getting old.

    Note of caution for short-term trades.  Tenth best starter MLB 2011: 

    Justin Masterson

    OPS of RHB:  .543
    OPS of LHB:  .724

    The last few years lefties knocked him around this year teams have stacked lefties against him 273 AB vs 206 for RHB and he is still been awesome. He could climb the list and become Theo's greatest mistake.  Yes, above Lugo and Renteria.

    Justin Masterson’s (Almost) All-Fastball Dominance

    Lou Marson had a pretty easy eight innings catching Justin Masterson Tuesday night against the Minnesota Twins. Any catcher would gladly receive for a performance like Masterson’s — eight scoreless innings, bolstered by six strikeouts and only blemished by four hits and one walk. And it just may have been the single easiest game a catcher has ever called. 104 times Marson put a sign down with his right hand. 103 times it was the ol’ number one.


    Yes, merely a day after Sam Miller www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=14561">wrote this piece wondering if a pitcher would ever throw an all-fastball start, Justin Masterson was one fourth-inning slider away from doing just that. All but one of Masterson’s pitches sat between 89.9 and 97.7 MPH, and as the results of his start suggest, they were mightily effective, carving up Twins batters to the tune of 10 swinging strikes on top of the shutout performance.

    Overall, 10 swinging strikes in just over 100 pitches isn’t an overly impressive mark. It’s good — at 9.7%, it’s well over his season average of 7.7% and above the league average of 8.5% — but even if Masterson maintained that rate for the whole season, he still wouldn’t land in the top 25 qualified starting pitchers.

    This is because the fastball is the least likely pitch to induce a swing and miss. It makes sense — whereas the curveball and changeup are often about deception and movement, the fastball is a “here it is, hit it” kind of pitch. The fastball is a pitch at its best when hitting a corner where it’s not even worth it to swing, and if contact is made, it’s weak. This notion is supported by the data — according to www.texasleaguers.com/">TexasLeaguers.com, the league-average whiff rate on fastballs is only 6.0%, well below the overall whiff rate of 8.5%.

    Masterson has had an immensely successful season with Cleveland this year, posting a 2.64 ERA and a 2.89 FIP. The reason for his success, both in Tuesday’s start and the season-to-date, is clearly his fastball. He goes to the pitch 82% of the time, the highest of any starter in the league, and although it usually isn’t quite as dominant as it looked against Minnesota, a whiff rate of 7.0% (according to the aforementioned TexasLeaguers) with the fastball is impressive, especially when hitters know it’s coming.

    Hitters make adjustments, and one would imagine we’ll see a few more sliders from Masterson in his starts down the line, if only by necessity. But his fastball is a very special pitch, capable of inducing the swings-and-misses and ground balls that aces are made of. Tuesday was the best exhibition of just how powerful that pitch is for Masterson, and maybe someday soon we’ll see him eschew that one slider and truly treat us to the all-fastball start. If anybody is capable, it’s him.

     

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