Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

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    Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

    The latest, copied this from MLBTraderumors.com

    Without binging up Dice-k........please discuss

     

     

    Shohei Otani, the Japanese pitching prospect who intends to pursue a career in MLB, appears to be an elite talent comparable to those selected in the top half of the first round of baseball’s amateur draft. The right-hander had been a potential first overall pick in Japan before he announced his intention to play for an MLB organization. And, according to Jim Callis of Baseball America, Dodgers assistant GM Logan White told Japanese reporters that Otani could go first overall if he were eligible for the MLB draft.

    However, the 18-year-old free agent won’t be draft eligible. Otani will be subject to spending restrictions as an international amateur, which means teams will face consequences if they exceed the $2.9MM international bonus threshold to sign him. Teams will be taxed at a rate of 100% for exceeding the 2.9MM threshold by more than 15%. These clubs would also forfeit the right to spend more than $250K on an international player during the following year’s signing period. 

    Callis suggests these restrictions won’t be too much of a deterrent for interested MLB teams. Boston GM Ben Cherington confirmed today that the Red Sox met with Otani, Alex Speier of WEEI.com reports (on Twitter). The Red Sox and Rangers “have done the most work in this arena,” ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reported today. Meanwhile, the Angels aren’t expected to be heavily involved, Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com reports (on Twitter).

     

     
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    Re: Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

    He is an 18 year old kid, like any 18 year old kid who throw 99 miles an hour you should be interested in.

     
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    Re: Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

    Yeah sure, why not?  We haven't gotten anyone great as an IFA, and should have some money to spend.  Worst case he doesn't pan out, and it's no different than whiffing on a draft pick.  It shouldn't cripple us financially.  

    He's still young and has a phenomenal arm, and he'll develop in the US.  Hopefully, he can pan out.

     
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    Re: Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

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    He is an 18 year old kid, like any 18 year old kid who throw 99 miles an hour you should be interested in.

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    99 MPH At 18 Years Old Sounds Like TJ At Age 23......

     
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    I hope that youngster is throwing a 99 mph STRIKE and not a 99 mph BALL like Dice-K did. 

    Dice-K was like a Toyota--needed a recall for mechanical issues. 

     

     
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    He is an 18 year old kid, like any 18 year old kid who throw 99 miles an hour you should be interested in.

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    99 MPH At 18 Years Old Sounds Like TJ At Age 23......

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    Not with John Farrell the pitching god as our manager ;) ...Anyways yes I think they should just because the most he should cost us is like 5 million a year at most. So why not? He's 18, and hasn't been brain washed by Japanese Major League Baseball yet!

     
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    I hope that youngster is throwing a 99 mph STRIKE and not a 99 mph BALL like Dice-K did. 

    Dice-K was like a Toyota--needed a recall for mechanical issues. 

     

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    LOL........

     
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    Re: Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

    Agreed 100%. Here is a kid who Has top draft pick talent.  It would be exciting to see him plus our protected pick solidify an already talent rich farm system.

     
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    We might have cOmpetition from Texas.  I've heard they are interested and havent spent any of their international pool money yet.

     
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    He is an 18 year old kid, like any 18 year old kid who throw 99 miles an hour you should be interested in.

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    99 MPH At 18 Years Old Sounds Like TJ At Age 23......

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    Not with John Farrell the pitching god as our manager ;) ...Anyways yes I think they should just because the most he should cost us is like 5 million a year at most. So why not? He's 18, and hasn't been brain washed by Japanese Major League Baseball yet!

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    The Red Sox have about 1.50 -1.75 to sign him for a bonus. They could give him a MLB contract at 18 years old and he would make 500,000 a year but that would blow threw his options by the time he is 22.

     
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    He is an 18 year old kid, like any 18 year old kid who throw 99 miles an hour you should be interested in.

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    99 MPH At 18 Years Old Sounds Like TJ At Age 23......

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    If he makes it to 23 without having it...

    I think they should attenpt to sign him. Of course. I hope nobody expects to see him until 2016 though.

     
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    Re: Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

    ya the sox should agressively pursue him, no doubt, 18 years old, huge potential, get it done ben. 

     
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    Re: Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

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    I hope that youngster is throwing a 99 mph STRIKE and not a 99 mph BALL like Dice-K did. 

    Dice-K was like a Toyota--needed a recall for mechanical issues. 

     

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    When did Dice-K ever throw 99 mph?

     
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    Re: Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

    Of course, the Sox should pursue this kid.  Wouldn't they be just as interested in an 18 year old kid with a 95-99 mph fastball if he lived in the states?

    And, wouldn't we (the fans) be upset with the front office if they were not digging everywhere and anywhere for young pitching prospects?

    Matsuzaka was who he was, but the Sox have made similar mistakes (although no posting fees just to talk to them) with American born players over the years just like every other team has.  No need to think that this kid is Matsuzaka just because he is from Japan.

     
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    The Red Sox have about 1.50 -1.75 to sign him for a bonus. They could give him a MLB contract at 18 years old and he would make 500,000 a year but that would blow threw his options by the time he is 22.

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    The Sox can (and should) offer him more than that to get the deal done.  They certainly have the cash and there isn't anyone in next year's IFA class who's good enough to be worried about the stricter spending limits for next year, that blowing past the spending "cap" this year would cause.

     
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    What's up with the Red Sox and Rangers always pursuing Japanese players?  Stick to Americans or Dominicans (I'm being sarcastic lol).

     

     

     
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    Re: Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

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    Agreed 100%. Here is a kid who Has top draft pick talent.  It would be exciting to see him plus our protected pick solidify an already talent rich farm system.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox fail to sign their top pick this year in what projects to be a very weak draft class.  Might as well push out the pick to the (presumably) stronger 2014 draft.

     
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    Re: Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

    Due to their maxed out payroll the past couple of years , the Sox had to pass on the top international free agents like Chapman , Cespedes and Darvish.  Now that they have the money to spend , they should definitely explore this market.

     
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    Re: Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

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    I hope that youngster is throwing a 99 mph STRIKE and not a 99 mph BALL like Dice-K did. 

    Dice-K was like a Toyota--needed a recall for mechanical issues. 

     

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    It is estimated to be in the 95-96 range, still very good for 18.

    But no control.

    But I think they still have to be interested.

     
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    Re: Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

    looks like you'll have to hold that thought for a bit..............from MLBTR

    Otani, Fujinami Selected In NPB Draft
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith

    Shohei Otani, the Japanese pitching prospect who's drawing interest from Major League teams, won't be able to sign with an MLB franchise before April of 2013. As expected, the Nippon Ham Fighters selected the 18-year-old right-hander with the first overall pick in the NPB draft, Patrick Newman of NPB Tracker reports (on Twitter).

    The Fighters won’t necessarily be able to sign Otani, who has said he intends to pursue a career in MLB. They have until the end of March to agree to terms with the hard-throwing prospect under an agreement between MLB and NPB. If Otani declines to sign with the Fighters, MLB teams will be able to bid on him as a free agent, though they’ll be subject to international spending restrictions.

    The Hanshin Tigers selected Shintaro Fujinami, according to Ben Badler of Baseball America (on Twitter). Some scouts prefer Fujinami to Otani, Badler writes.
    Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#8PETFBtk7yBAyAbI.99

     
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    Re: Should the sox aggressively pursue Shohei Otani?

    With all the money they threw around, why did they pass on Cespedes?

    He would have given them the right handed power they need, plus speed, and it only would have cost money and not players.

     

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