Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
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Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 6:45 PM EDT
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And if so, who would they have to give up? Here is a kid who was the #1 pick in the draft and is coming into his own. Not to mention he is signed long term at a reasonable rate and offensively he puts Drew to shame. And to top it off, he is the Upton to have if you had to choose between the two. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 6:51 PM EDT
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Give one reason why Arizona would even think about moving him. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 6:51 PM EDT
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In Response to Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:And if so, who would they have to give up? Here is a kid who was the #1 pick in the draft and is coming into his own. Not to mention he is signed long term at a reasonable rate and offensively he puts Drew to shame. And to top it off, he is the Upton to have if you had to choose between the two.
Posted by MIKESOX
Justin Upton would be a great move but one Arizona should never make unless its an offer too good to pass on. BJ should probably be traded or released by the Rays, it may just improve their team. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 6:57 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:Give one reason why Arizona would even think about moving him.
Posted by NUSoxFanJust thinkning that since Theo is known for his "man crush" way of going after players, this one would be a good fit. Theo had the hots for Drew, got him. He had the hots for Lugo, got him too. Loved Scutaro, got him, and the list could go on. He mentioned Upton during the winter meetings in an interview on the MLB channel with Kevin Millar, so hopefully he keeps this kid on his radar. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 7:06 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:Give one reason why Arizona would even think about moving him.
Posted by NUSoxFanThey were fielding offers for Upton last winter. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 7:08 PM EDT
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Yes, but unlikely value trade. Kemp is the more likely trade match. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 7:24 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton? : They were fielding offers for Upton last winter.
Posted by JB-3
Last winter the Diamondbacks were coming off a last-place finish, 27 games behind the San Francisco Giants.
The Diamondback currently are only a half-game back of the division-leading Giants. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 7:26 PM EDT
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IMO the price would be too high in $$ and or RSN prospects, and I would rather see Kalish in right next year. Crawford will be fine. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 7:33 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton? : They were fielding offers for Upton last winter.
Posted by JB-3
That was after a horrible season and even then it would've had to been something to completely blow them away. A story obviously over-hyped by ESPN. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 7:36 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton? : That was after a horrible season and even then it would've had to been something to completely blow them away. A story obviously over-hyped by ESPN.
Posted by NUSoxFanYou only asked for 1 reason, I didn't say the Sox should do it at this point. Rumor has it they wanted a package similar to the AGon package. I assume the price would be even higher now given the teams success. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 7:38 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton? : You only asked for 1 reason, I didn't say the Sox should do it at this point. Rumor has it they wanted a package similar to the AGon package. I assume the price would be even higher now given the teams success.
Posted by JB-3
Past intentions don't always equate to current ones. I don't even consider the fact they entertained an offer or two as something that would hint they would entertain offers this season. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 7:44 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:Yes, but unlikely value trade. Kemp is the more likely trade match.
Posted by betterredthandead
would love to see a crawford, ellsbury, kemp or upton outfield -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 8:02 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton? : Past intentions don't always equate to current ones. I don't even consider the fact they entertained an offer or two as something that would hint they would entertain offers this season.
Posted by NUSoxFanEven after coming off of their terrible 2010, there was no reason to deal someone who's young, great, and signed long term to a team friendly deal. The fact that they were open to it before shows that they are willing to think outside the box to accelerate their rebuilding process. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 8:03 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton? : Just thinkning that since Theo is known for his "man crush" way of going after players, this one would be a good fit. Theo had the hots for Drew, got him. He had the hots for Lugo, got him too. Loved Scutaro, got him, and the list could go on. He mentioned Upton during the winter meetings in an interview on the MLB channel with Kevin Millar, so hopefully he keeps this kid on his radar.
Posted by MIKESOX
Big difference being he signed all 3 of those as FAs.
And as far as rasonable money, he makes:
4.25 this year
6.75 next
9.75 2013
14.25 2014
14.5 2015.
Reasonable for big market teams, that's a large chunk for AZ to absorb going forward. For the money, I'd go after his teammate, Chris Young. I think he's one of the most underrated OFers in baseball. Signed through 2014, topping out at 11 mil (5.2 this, 7 next, 8.5 in 2013) and he's 27 right now, about 4 years older than Upton. 30/30 a very reachable statline for him, the K numbers are a little scary (about 250 per year) but he's a right handed hitter who can play CF, so I'm assuming the corners as well, though I know it's not the same. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/18/2011 8:15 PM EDT
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yes -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/19/2011 4:01 AM EDT
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Would love to see a Kemp, Kalish and Crawbust OF. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/19/2011 4:42 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:Would love to see a Kemp, Kalish and Crawbust OF.
Posted by betterredthandeadIt could be worse Softy; they could have signed Bay. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/19/2011 5:33 AM EDT
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Steve ... realizing where your loyalties lie...do you think the Sox got the Bay deal right or wrong?
Heck, maybe it's just something to do with bad karma coming off of the ponzi scheme that is sinking the Mets. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/19/2011 5:37 AM EDT
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Upton?
No. Too much to get him away from D-Backs now.
As pointed out, he was offered during off-season and there was supposedly some interest here. But that's water under the bridge.
Not that he wouldn't be interesting, but he's nearly a clone of Carl. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/19/2011 5:59 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:Steve ... realizing where your loyalties lie...do you think the Sox got the Bay deal right or wrong? Heck, maybe it's just something to do with bad karma coming off of the ponzi scheme that is sinking the Mets.
Posted by SinceYazI was talking from the Sox perspective. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/19/2011 6:09 AM EDT
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I liked Jason a lot. I also kinda thought that the Sox were playing a bit too tough, almost dirty.
I didn't realize how dead center their medical fears were.
Jason and Pedro, two great guys but two calls they got right from the medical stand. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/19/2011 6:12 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:I liked Jason a lot. I also kinda thought that the Sox were playing a bit too tough, almost dirty. I didn't realize how dead center their medical fears were. Jason and Pedro, two great guys but two calls they got right from the medical stand.
Posted by SinceYazI don't think that's the whole story; he's playing like a fat cat (nothing like a walk year to motivate, see Beltre and Reyes), and that park is oppressive for power hitters, especially compared to Fenway (at least when you lose a Homer at Fenway in left, it's still a hit)His numbers on the Mets are atrocious (6 HRs last yr, hitting .204 with 2 HRS as of a week ago this yr; few RBIs both yrs)Let's not forget he had good yrs in Pitt, which is a tough park for righties. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/19/2011 8:25 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:Would love to see a Kemp, Kalish and Crawbust OF.
Posted by betterredthandead
kalish seems a bit too injury prone for me. -
Re: Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?
posted at 6/19/2011 11:03 AM EDT
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In Response to Should the Sox pursue Justin Upton?:And if so, who would they have to give up? Here is a kid who was the #1 pick in the draft and is coming into his own. Not to mention he is signed long term at a reasonable rate and offensively he puts Drew to shame. And to top it off, he is the Upton to have if you had to choose between the two.
Posted by MIKESOX
I could possibly see a package including Ells in the off season to re-new the Upton talks. I don't see us getting Upton without including him and if Jacoby keeps playing well his stock could be at it's highest level.
Crawford LF
Upton CF/RF
Kallish CF/RF
Reddick 4th, OF
I also see trade proposals for Kemp or Either