Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher?

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    In Response to Re: Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher? : That may be a realistic return for John Lackey. Alfonso Soriano was a 3.0 WAR* player in 2010 and has been valued at 0.8 WAR so far this season: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=847&position=2B/OF Lackey was valued at 4.0 WAR in 2010 and has been valued at 0.3 WAR so far this season: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1507&position=P * Wins Above Replacement as reported at FanGraphs

    Posted by hill55

    Perfect examples of how flawed WAR is.

     
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      Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher?

    Sounds great except for the fact that the red flops don't have any "highly touted" prospects. The farm system is barren.

     
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    It would be nice to upgrade the offensive production in right field, but it is not the biggest concern. Sox are scoring enough runs, now.  Starting pitching is the most important element, and the Sox have some question marks in this area. That should be the priority.
     
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    Re: Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher?

    If you look at all starting rotation for all MLB teams except the Phillies, everyone have an starting rotation issues.  So therefore, Boston know that they will have just deal on what they have now.  

    Do not forget that Boston have Millwood in the minor league, and he can be call up when Lackey goes back on DL.  

    Boston do have few options before trying to find a pitcher in the trading market.
     
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    It would be nice to upgrade the offensive production in right field, but it is not the biggest concern. Sox are scoring enough runs, now.  Starting pitching is the most important element, and the Sox have some question marks in this area. That should be the priority.
    Posted by dgalehouse


    totally agree with this statement......keep bolstering the pitching...no reclamations though
     
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    Re: Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher?

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    If you look at all starting rotation for all MLB teams except the Phillies, everyone have an starting rotation issues.  So therefore, Boston know that they will have just deal on what they have now.   Do not forget that Boston have Millwood in the minor league, and he can be call up when Lackey goes back on DL.   Boston do have few options before trying to find a pitcher in the trading market.
    Posted by GoUconn13

    i understand your point, but I would note that the Seattle rotation did not miss a start until Sunday when former first-round pick Blake Beavan replaced Erik Bedard by shutting down San Diego in his MLB debut. Michael Pineda had a 2.58 ERA in 17 starts, Bedard a 3.00 ERA in 15 starts, Doug Fister a 3.02 ERA in 17 starts, Felix Hernandez a 3.35 ERA in 18 starts and Jason Vargas a 3.57 ERA in 17 starts (including three shutouts in his last six starts).
     
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    In Response to Re: Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher?:
    Theo should be on the lookout for a a reasonably priced #4 or #5 and not gut the farm system. Where would the Yanks be w/o Freddy Garcia and Bartolo Colon? Cashman got these 2 on-the-cheap. Conversely, the Sox signed Lackey, Jinx and Wheeler. Game, set, match to the Yanks. Nobody wants Lackey w/his ridiculous salary, attitude and ERA approaching 8.00.
    Posted by MarylandFan


    I definitely agree with you.  The Red Sox shouldn't be trading their minor league players.  At this rate, they won't have anyone left in the minors.  
     
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    Re: Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher?

    theo blunder should no longer be involved in any moves, major or minor.
    leave him out of the equation and then please show him the door.
     
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    Re: Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher?

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    In Response to Re: Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher? : I definitely agree with you.  The Red Sox shouldn't be trading their minor league players.  At this rate, they won't have anyone left in the minors.  
    Posted by susan250


    At what rate?  Its not like they have been making trades willy-nilly.  They traded a couple blue-chippers to get Adrian Gonzalez.  
     
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    Re: Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher?

    Trade prospects for another pitcher????  They have the 2nd best record in the AL and no one is even close to challenging for the WC.  Why trade the future when you already have a very strong team?
     
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    Trade prospects for another pitcher????  They have the 2nd best record in the AL and no one is even close to challenging for the WC.  Why trade the future when you already have a very strong team?
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover


    set the above aside as one of the dumbest posts of the season so far.
     
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    Trade prospects for another pitcher????  They have the 2nd best record in the AL and no one is even close to challenging for the WC.  Why trade the future when you already have a very strong team?

    Posted by DirtyWaterLover

    LOL...so the red flops are two back in the loss column and in your opinion are still in it but the rays are three back in the loss column for the wild card and are not even close according to you.....

    Think much before you post?

     
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    Re: Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher?

    Chris Heisey--- OF -- Righty Hitter-- Cincinnati Reds-- 4th outfielder --27 yrs old.  Would be a nice addition for the Red Sox.
     
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    Re: Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher?

    In Response to Re: Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher?:
    Maybe the Sox should offer Lackey to the Cuibs for Alfonso Soriano and get their RHH outfielder.   After 2010, Lackey is signed for 3 more years at $45.75 mill.  Soriano is signed at 3 years $54mill, and is 3 years older and rapidly getting slower.  So the Cubs might need to kick in a little. He is alsoa nightmare defensively and has managed to become the flaw in UZR. But hey, fans would get 2 wishes - RHH slugging OF and Lackey's exit...
    Posted by notin


    So you'd of course make him a left fielder and move Ellsbury to RF (where he was actually ok in 2008) and Crawford to CF?

    Hmmmm

    How about we throw in Drew and Dice-K and they throw in Zambrano?:-)

    50% left of 2011:

    Z (9) Soriano (9)
    Drew (7) Lackey (8) Dice-K (5)

    Sox save a couple million

    12-14:

    Z (37.25) assuming option vests if he is healthy Soriano (54)
    Lackey (45.75) Dice-K (10)

    Cubs save 36.5 million

    We could also give them 1-2 prospects.

    Dice-K has to waive his no-trade, Lackey has elbow surgery which means cubs get him for vet minimum in 2015 as part of his contract

     
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    Re: Should Theo make a major move giving up highly touted prospects for a front of the rotation starting pitcher?

    As long as you want to move Crawford to CF and Ells to RF....

    You could try and trade Lackey, Dice-K, Jenks and Drew to the Mets

    For

    Santana (won't pitch in 2011 same as Dice), Frankie Rodriguez and Jason Bay.

     
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