Re: Slightly off topic...but The National Anthem
posted at 6/16/2014 2:03 PM EDT
In response to dannycater's comment:
The National Anthem is a tradition at pretty much all sporting events with a PA system. When I'm at a HS/College sporting event that doesn't honor America (which is the point), it feels wrong. If it's because you don't have a proper sound or electricity at the fields, then I can understand and then it's assumed no anthem. But you got the PA, you do it. It's an American tradition and it keeps things in perspective. Hate your opponent, hate your life, hate your dog, wife, the government, whatever....respect the Flag, respect that our Forefathers and our Military going back to Valley Forge put their lives on the line for our Nation. You don't like living here, leave. There seems to be hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens who can't wait to enter the USA, and for good reason. As for bitter Americans who hate the "system," form a militia or go to KFC with an AK 47. If you don't want to stand up and remove your hat during the Anthem, then don't...be disrespectful if you like, that is your choice. I will give you a dirty look, however, and I'll think you are a jerk.
was it disrespectful when Thomas Jefferson signed the Declaration of Independence and when George Washington formed a MILITIA and took up arms against his own government? Or would you just had given him a "dirty look" and thought he was a "jerk" or just "bitter" and "hated the system"?
And so much for freedom of expression. All I do is sit down and be quiet. And people want to kill me? I am not burning the flag. I am not shouting over the song. I am not doing ANYTHING. So you guys talk about freedom but really what you all mean is YOUR definition of freedom and what feels right to you.
So I go back to my original post and refer to the word I used "Hypocrites".......THIS NATION WAS FOUNDED ON DISSENT AND NOW YOU'ALL SEEM TO LOVE GOOSE STEPPING IN LINE and NOT BOTHERING TO LEARN HOW THE SYSTEM REALLY WORKS. The best way to enslave a people: LET THEM BELIEVE THEY ARE FREE......It's working......
drew, I'm sorry if you have had tough lot in life, you mentioned being drafted. I agree with you about the idea of dissent (CLEARLY YOU DO NOT SUPPORT DISSENT), but I don't agree with being disrespectful to traditions if the idea behind them is to promote good will among men/women/Americans (JUST BECAUSE I WON'T DO SOMETHING I DON'T BELIEVE IN MAKES ME DISRESPECTFUL?). I think the Anthem is a reminder of the trials and tribulations of some of the Forefathers you mentioned . Washington formed his militia WITH DIRECTION FROM THE REVOLUTIONARY LEADERS...It was done with an objective in mind, not because Washington was a rogue guy dissenting (WASHINGTON WOULD BE CONSIDERED A TERRORIST AND IF CAUGHT SENT TO GUATINAMO BAY). When you feel you want to rise up and take arms against the U.S. Government, feel free (YOU MEAN LIKE WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS DID??). When Rick Monday picked up the burning flag one day at Dodger Stadium, do you think he was in the wrong for doing so? Sounds like it. (NOW YOU ARE REALLY MISSING THE POINT. I WOULD SUPPORT RICK MONDAY FOR DOING WHAT HE DID. IT IS HIS FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. WHAT HE DID NOT DO ANYONE PHYSICAL OR FINANCIAL HARM. SO YOU ARE WRONG, I SUPPORT MONDAY 100%). I do think it's disrespectful to not stand up and take off your hat---it's good manners for one thing (THAT'S YOUR OPINION WHICH IS FINE BUT THERE'S A THUG HERE WHO WOULD RATHER PUNCH ME OUT COLD BECAUSE I DON'T DO SOMETHING THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IN). Or should we all eat with no spoons and forks and simply behave like wild animals? (YOU COULD DO WHATEVER YOU WANT AS LONG AS YOU ARE EITHER A - ON YOUR PRIVATE PROPERTY OR B - HAVE THE PERMISSION OF THE OWNER OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY). I don't see you not standing as "dissent." (AGAIN, YOUR OPINION. BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE IN IT. SO ARE YOU GOING TO FORCE ME TO DO SOMETHING THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IN? AND IF SO, HOW?) I see you not standing as disrespectful. Two different things in my opinion. (IT'S ALL PERSPECTIVE BUT AGAIN, I DEFAULT BACK TO MY INITIAL POINT. PEOPLE TODAY BELIEVE IN FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION AS LONG AS THEY AGREE WITH THE EXPRESSION. IF NOT, IT'S DISRESPECTUL AND YOU MAY GET A PUNCH IN THE MOUTH)