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    Bill. A stress fracture of the lumbar vertibrae is a very common condition, especially in youth. I believe that most of us probably had one at one time or another, if athletics were played.
    What i find curious, is that it took this long to find it, and it just displays another deficiency in the RS medical staff.
    This is happening far too often to be a coincidence.
     
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    J.D.Drew fell over him at the Bar-B-Que at the park.

    His potato salad got in Buchholz's eyes and Drew ended up with an impingement as he tried to catch it. Meanwhile Buchholz, who was explaining to a dim fan that , no there is no "t" in his name....and he's quite sure about this, fell backwards and landed on his tailbone flinging a chili dog high in the air, which smacked Gonzalez in the head and gave him a stiff neck.

    The moral of the story is players should not be allowed to mingle with fans during the season....it's very dangerous.
     
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    Aren't stress fractures bascially overuse injuries?  I know one person that got a stress fracture in their foot from running and another guy who got a stress in his leg from running.

    It can be a drag because the stress fracture can occur after the pain starts.  Something starts to hurt.  It doesn't go away.  You try to work through it and eventually a stress fracture occurs. 

    As I understand it, they are very difficult to see with an xray or an MRI. 
     
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    A hairline stress fracture can be difficult to find. They definitely don't show up on most x-rays. Googling might be more effective than asking baseball fans for answers.
     
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    why did it take this long to find out.sox medical staff is terrible,which is even worse considering boston is the medical capitol of the world
     
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    why did it take this long to find out.sox medical staff is terrible,which is even worse considering boston is the medical capitol of the world
    Posted by udontnojack


    Maybe the fracture was hard to detect?  It is my understanding that medicine is not infallible and that "House" is fiction.
     
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    why did it take this long to find out.sox medical staff is terrible,which is even worse considering boston is the medical capitol of the world
    Posted by udontnojack


    If you read about players on other teams with arm trouble, etc. you will conclude that many go off to specialists all over the country. This incident was not novel. That one specialist in Alabama must see ten major league players per year. It is possible that Bucholz or others demanded extra opinions. Being overly cautious is something that fans should be applauding.
     
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    Bill. A stress fracture of the lumbar vertibrae is a very common condition, especially in youth. I believe that most of us probably had one at one time or another, if athletics were played. What i find curious, is that it took this long to find it, and it just displays another deficiency in the RS medical staff. This is happening far too often to be a coincidence.
    Posted by Alibiike


    That was my initial thought, how many injuries to Sox players have occurred in the last two seasons that have either been misdiagnosed, or took forever to evaluate correctly?   
     
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    buchholz hurt his back because he so damn skinny and needs to put on weight and build muscle to strengthen his back so this does not happen again and does not get worse. Look at a guy like jon lester, he is only 1 inch taller than buchholz and he weighs 50 lbs more. Buchholz should is listed a 6ft 3, so he should weigh somewhere around 215-220, but is currently at 190. He needs to put on some weight and muscle in order to strengthen his back and fill out his frame. One a side note, is anyone else p***ed that the red sox medical staff waited until less  a week before the trade deadline to suggest buchholz have an mri? He has been on the DL since june 17, so in the 5 weeks he has been on the DL he has barely improved at all and yet no one on the medical staff clued in that maybe its not muscular? And even if that thought had not crossed their minds, why not just have him get an mri regardless. Had they done so, buchholz would have already been 5 weeks into the recovery process and would likely have been able to come back in late august or early september. Now, because they waited so long he will probably be out the rest of the year. I think this is the same kind of thing that happened last year with ellsbury, we all gave him a hard time for being soft but in reality the problem was the red sox pathetic medical staff. They misdiagnosed ellsbury too which is why it took so long for him to come back. 
     
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      HOW CLAY BUCH HURT HIS BACK ?????   CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR SOME OF THE WILD EXPLANATIONS FROM OUR VERY SMART  T-BALLERS !!!!
    Posted by Bill-806


    Bill, I think it may have something to do with his choice in girlfriends ...


       and I'll say no more.
     
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    Diagnosis begins with a complete history and physical exam. Your doctor will ask questions about your symptoms and how the problem is affecting your daily activities. You will be asked about your involvement in sports and your level of performance. Doctors may suspect a problem with spondylolysis in football linemen, gymnasts, and those in similar sports that require intensive levels of performance. Your doctor will also want to know what positions or activities make your symptoms worse or better.

    Next the doctor examines you by checking your posture and the amount of movement in your low back. Your doctor checks to see which back movements cause pain or other symptoms. Your skin sensation, muscle strength, and reflexes are also tested.

    Your doctor may order an X-ray of your low back. An angled, or oblique, view is often used to check for a pars fracture. The doctor traces around the vertebral body and bony ring on the X-ray film. The outline normally forms an image that looks like a small dog. When a crack is present, however, the dog will appear to have a collar around its neck. This is referred to as the "Scotty dog" sign. It confirms a diagnosis of spondylolysis.

    Small defects in the bone may not show up on X-ray. Also, a recent stress fracture won't always appear on X-ray. As a result, your doctor may order a bone scan to get the most accurate information. This involves injecting chemical "tracers" into your blood stream. The tracers then show up on special spine X-rays. The tracers collect in areas of extra stress to bone tissue, such as a stress fracture of the pars interarticularis.

    Computed tomography (a CT scan) may be ordered. This is a detailed X-ray that lets doctors see "slices" of the body's tissue. The image can show if the edges of the fractured bone have begun growing together. The scan shows whether the fracture is new or old, so doctors can decide which treatments will help the most.

    When more information is needed, your doctor may order an MRI scan (magnetic resonance imaging scan). The MRI machine uses magnetic waves rather than X-rays to show the soft tissues of the body. It can help in the diagnosis of spondylolysis. It can also provide information about the health of nearby intervertebral discs and other soft tissues that don't appear on X-rays.

     
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    buchholz hurt his back because he so @#!*% skinny and needs to put on weight and build muscle to strengthen his back so this does not happen again and does not get worse. Look at a guy like jon lester, he is only 1 inch taller than buchholz and he weighs 50 lbs more. Buchholz should is listed a 6ft 3, so he should weigh somewhere around 215-220, but is currently at 190. He needs to put on some weight and muscle in order to strengthen his back and fill out his frame. One a side note, is anyone else p***ed that the red sox medical staff waited until less  a week before the trade deadline to suggest buchholz have an mri? He has been on the DL since june 17, so in the 5 weeks he has been on the DL he has barely improved at all and yet no one on the medical staff clued in that maybe its not muscular? And even if that thought had not crossed their minds, why not just have him get an mri regardless. Had they done so, buchholz would have already been 5 weeks into the recovery process and would likely have been able to come back in late august or early september. Now, because they waited so long he will probably be out the rest of the year. I think this is the same kind of thing that happened last year with ellsbury, we all gave him a hard time for being soft but in reality the problem was the red sox pathetic medical staff. They misdiagnosed ellsbury too which is why it took so long for him to come back. 
    Posted by redsoxpride34

     1: I agree that the Sox should have realized quicker, but they knew before today that he had a stress fracture, but wanted to reveal it after the deadline so the price on Bedard wouldn't shoot up.
     2: Buchholz was extremely skinny for a while, so when he put on a ton of weight after 09 (not fat, but still), there was tons of stress on his back. He is paying the penalty now.
     
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    http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/08/after_seeing_ba.html
     
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    Way too skinny. He needs a lot more of a frame to get through a full season and to do it year in and out. He only weighs 190 pounds on a large frame so this could be a problem goimg forwward. Hopefully they add mucsle on him as time goes by. I like pitchers built like a horse----look at Clemens even before the juice. Big frame and you need that to get through a full season.
     
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    ya i realize they knew about the extent of his injury and did not want to tell anyone because it would drive up the price on the starters they were going after, but my point is that they should have had him undergo an mri as soon as he went on the DL just to cover all the bases. That way they would have realized it was far more than just a muscle strain. As a result he they have wasted valueable recovery time. As i mentioned in my previous post and other posters have mentioned as well, this is not the first time the redsox medical staff has f**ked up. jacoby ellsbury missed pretty much an entire season because the red sox medical staff did not properly diagnose his injury. The red sox medical staff need to start doing their f**king job and doing things properly. They need to learn from their mistakes and be much more thorough. Thanks to them, we have lost one of best pitchers for the season and as a result our world series hopes have taken a huge hit. 
     
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    ya i realize they knew about the extent of his injury and did not want to tell anyone because it would drive up the price on the starters they were going after, but my point is that they should have had him undergo an mri as soon as he went on the DL just to cover all the bases. That way they would have realized it was far more than just a muscle strain. As a result he they have wasted valueable recovery time. As i mentioned in my previous post and other posters have mentioned as well, this is not the first time the redsox medical staff has f**ked up. jacoby ellsbury missed pretty much an entire season because the red sox medical staff did not properly diagnose his injury. The red sox medical staff need to start doing their f**king job and doing things properly. They need to learn from their mistakes and be much more thorough. Thanks to them, we have lost one of best pitchers for the season and as a result our world series hopes have taken a huge hit. 
    Posted by redsoxpride34


    When it rains out I'll bet my last dollar that you blame it on the weatherman.
     
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    Posted by PawsoxPhil


    how can the medical staff not be to blame? its not like this is the first time something like this has happened. just last year with ellsbury the same thing happened. how can you defend them? the sox medical staff needs to be better at diagnosing players' injuries, thats there job. Thats what they get paid to do. i give blame where blame is due. 
     
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    Sutcliff on TNN or TNT last night was saying it was due to the way he throws the ball.  Said he will have to try some different mechanics when he comes back so as not to injure it again....


    I guess it wasn't his girlfriend ....
     
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    Sutcliff on TNN or TNT last night was saying it was due to the way he throws the ball.  Said he will have to try some different mechanics when he comes back so as not to injure it again.... I guess it wasn't his girlfriend ....
    Posted by SinceYaz


    Great. Not only does he have to wait and heal. Now he needs to re-learn how to pitch? This should take a while. "Hey Mr. Francona... What's the timetable look like for Buch?". Tito- "We're gonna approach this situation very cautiously. We're hoping sometime before the Mayan Calender ends". Awesome. Thanx.
     
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