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    Re: SOFTY was/is right again ....... 1-15 @ 067........

    The Sox lose and look who is suddenly able to post again.

     
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    In response to Bill-806's comment:

    In response to ThefourBs' comment:

    The Sox lose and look who is suddenly able to post again.

    Not on my home computer.....  This site "is not right"  !!!    I am thankful for this activity !!!





    BS.

     
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    shameful

     
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    In response to RedSoxFireman's comment:

    Bill, Softy was right that Ortiz needs to be rested and is in decline, but he never said Ortiz was the problem. In fact, he said Ortiz is the only true slugging threat that the Red Sox have.

    Ortiz hasn't been the problem in this series, though you are right that he's not able to do the job he once did. The problem in this series is the "balanced approach", which isn't going to work unless the Red Sox starters are nearly perfect against a dangerous middle of the Tigers lineup with a 70% Miggy who's still dangerous as he's shown with the homer and RBI's in this series.

    Here's the problem:

    Pedroia, Ortiz, Napoli, ? (Despite the 2 homers from Ortiz and Napoli, this isn't getting it done)

    Miggy, Fielder, VMart, Peralta (Fielder's been terrible, but Miggy, VMart and Peralta are getting it done)

    I expect the Red Sox offense will adjust and do better in 2nd playoff look at Sanchez, but Lester is going to have to be nearly perfect on the ERA front if the Red Sox are to win Game 5.

    Note: Game 2 more important than Game 1, Game 4 more important than Game 3, and Game 6 more important than Game 5.



    I will say that this is a 100% rational and well-thought-out post.  You are intelligent when you aren't bashing people and getting caught up in your own distaste for certain players.

     
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    who, me?  Nope.  I'm just trying to encourage Softy to make more rational posts like that, rather than the constant attacks and childish nicknames and whatnot.

     
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    In response to tyrionranical's comment:

    who, me?  Nope.  I'm just trying to encourage Softy to make more rational posts like that, rather than the constant attacks and childish nicknames and whatnot.



    +1

     
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    In response to BurritoT-'s comment:

    welcome back pike



    Your attacks are growing stale

     
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    In response to 67redsox's comment:

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    welcome back pike



    Your attacks are growing stale



    No, he's right, it's pike.

     

     
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    In response to Bill-806's comment:

    In response to 2013soxchamps' comment:

    DAD's a genious, huh?

    Thank you, DAD knows his baseball !!!!




    Bill, 

    Both you ard your fictitious Dad are tiresome, but I guess you consider yourself comedic. More like pathetic !!

    Hetch 

     
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    In response to Hetchinspete's comment:

    In response to Bill-806's comment:

     

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    DAD's a genious, huh?

     

    Thank you, DAD knows his baseball !!!!


     



    Bill, 

    Both you ard your fictitious Dad are tiresome, but I guess you consider yourself comedic. More like pathetic !!

    Hetch 



    Bill has a great sense of humor, it's different so I understand if you don't get it.  May I suggest that you ignore bill if you find him tiresome.

     
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    In response to Hfxsoxnut's comment:

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    welcome back pike



    Your attacks are growing stale



    No, he's right, it's pike.

     



    How do you know this for sure?

     
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    i can assure you I'm not Pike.  All I did was point out the fact that softy made a rational post and I figured it should be noted.  Yes, there was criticism of the red sox, but it was more of an astute analysis rather than the typical name calling and rooting against the team.  He should be encouraged to contribute in this way more often ... I have other words that I can use to describe his typical demeanor, but they're banned on this board.

     
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    In response to 67redsox's comment:

    No, he's right, it's pike.



    How do you know this for sure?

    [/QUOTE]

    a) 'New poster' but knows a lot about the board

    b) Strange screen name

    c) Judging other posters instead of talking baseball

    d) Pike is otherwise unaccounted for

    Just watch what happens to this 'new poster'.

     
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    In response to 67redsox's comment:

    In response to Hfxsoxnut's comment:

    In response to 67redsox's comment:

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    welcome back pike



    Your attacks are growing stale



    No, he's right, it's pike.

     



    How do you know this for sure?



    Its Pike. Look at his incept date and how his comments are about other posters. Pike never admits he is Pike-never. No matter; as long as he behaves himself I don't care if he is Stalin masquerading as Pike.

     
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    Re: SOFTY was/is right again ....... 1-15 @ 067........

    you guys are silly.  I've checked up on these boards for years because it's a good way to get a different opinion from the standard newspaper articles and TV talking heads.  Never much felt the need to post because I already have enough (non-baseball) forums that take up too much of my time as is.  I childishly created a screenname recently because I couldn't resist the urge to call out AndrewMitch for being a "miserable [word-redacted]" because all he was doing was whining.  

    If you want to think I'm Pike, then think I'm pike, it doesn't make a difference to me and this is all getting way off-topic even by this board's standards.  So much for complimenting one of the more obnoxious members of this board for making a rare thoughtful post...

     
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    Re: SOFTY was/is right again ....... 1-15 @ 067........

    Here's the greatest hits:

     

    I agree with putting Ortiz back on the shelf, as he'll go on the DL if they don't keep around 100 games work load. He's a part-time player from here until the end of that 2 year contract.

     

    He isn't starting any 120 games, despite your guess. "At Least" is truly the work of a stooge. At most, even with the PH to try and help you lie with statistics, he'll almost surely "play in" no more than 120 games.

     

    The notion that you foresee 120 to 130 starts (or games played) is out on a twig.

     

    Ortiz's condition is obvious. It's fragile, and exactly the same issue that broke him down a year ago. These issues don't get better with age. Whether it's age or the typical tendon and ligament pathology from years of PED use, that remains to be seen. Either way, he's a part-time player, at best.

     

    ...those that claim he's at least 120 to 130 games started are delusional.

     

    Yes, and "the next night" is the point. Manager John needs to keep him in the status of a 100 to 110 game part-time player. If they go for more, he'll break down.

     

    Ortiz is punch and judy and his tiny sample with come crashing down. He's paid to hit the ball out and drive it deep in the gaps, for 140 plus workload.

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    ... a washed up middle of the order punch and judy hitter .

     At this point, he's a punch and judy pinch hitter guy who splits time at DH.

    Ortiz's splits mean nothing for a punch and judy guy with bad wheels. If he starts 130 or more games, he will be exposed and you won't be posting his plits. You will be crying like you were in Wakefield and no market. You fail to see the obvious, and have the planning skills of Red Sox managment.

    Over this two year contract, Ortiz and the "natural age regression" will manifest in DL stints and RBI and HR season averages that reflect a bench guy, part-time DH and pinch hitter.

    His latest words reflect the reality that he knows there will be no more fooling and getting a big contract anymore, which reflects the reality that Ortiz has bad wheels that aren't going to get better without PED. Unless the Red Sox use him as a part-time player, he's going back on the DL in less than 3 months.

     

    They need to rest him frequently if they hope to avoid another breakdown like 2012. This should be his final season, but this managment seems to wait until it gets embarrassing before they move contacts like S. Drew and Ortiz into the "sunk cost" that InEpsein would use, long after the damage was done from managment refusing to admit the mistake before way too much time had passed by.

    Management must not "ride Ortiz until he breaks down", 

     

    Great time to trade Ortiz, since he'll never make to retirment at the end of 2014 without becoming Tim Wakefield and "the fans deserve a chance to see me".

     

    It's about slugging all season and driving in runs. Ortiz is a punch and judy guy, now, which started with his breakdown last summer that caused him to produce 1/2 season production.

    It's a pipe dream to think he's going to have 100 RBI's and a high slugging average. Ortiz is a punch and judy guy, now, who offers next to nothing by gettong base.

     

    Great time to trade him, now.

     

    This team was built for Ortiz to provide year long slugging. That's not going to happen. He's a punch and judy hitter with no more bat speed than Iglesias, who doesn't have the Constiution to sustain season long slugging production. Get it over and put him on the field for what he's paid to do, and if he breaks down then 60 day DL him and allow the team to settle in and adjust to a style of baseball that relies on speed and top defense. This team isn't going to get the season home record job done when it comes to trying to outslug the AL, and bottom feeding off weak slugging teams like the Rays isn't going to offset the problem. The sooner they expose Ortiz's patent infirmities and adjust, the better. 

     We'll see, but I'm watching how he handles and adjusts to the fact Ortiz aint gonna get it done in the slugging department.

     

     This should be his final season, and 2011 was probably his last high slugging production full season.

     

    Ortiz is riding the bench early, which is necessary but proof that the 2 year deal was both a bidding against the Red Sox case and a value mistake. If they had signed him 2 a 2 year base 11 deal like I said to at the end of 2011, he would be correctly retiring at the end of this year.

     

    Ortiz can't play 8 out of every 10 games all season. 

     

    I've noted that you think Ortiz will start in over 130 games. I've already noted that I think Ortiz will get injured unless his total season workload is limited to about 100 to 110 games. 

    Don't let the facts disrupt your prevaricating trolling.

     
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