Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade

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    Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade

    Starting from the worst teams as of now...

    Houston: None

    Chicago Cubs: 
    A Soriano 13-14:$18M annually
    M Garza (arb)
    Marmol 13:$9.8M
    D DeJesus 13:$4.25M, 14:$6.5M club option ($1.5M buyout)

    Colorado:
    J de la Rosa 13:$11M player option ($1M buyout) which, if exercised by De La Rosa, gives club $11M club option for 2014
    Cuddyer 13:$10.5M, 14:$10.5M
    Tulowitski 13:$10M, 14:$16M, 15-19:$20M annually, 20:$14M,21:$15M club option ($4M buyout)
    C Gonzalez 13:$7.5M, 14:$10.5M, 15:$16M, 16:$17M, 17:$20M
    Betancourt 13:$4.25M, 14:$4.25M mutual option ($0.25M buyout)
    Belisle 13:$4.1M, 14:$4.25M mutual option ($0.25M buyout)
    R Hernandez 13:$3.2M

    Minnesota:
    J Mauer 13-18: $23 million annually
    Morneau 13:$14M
    Willingham 13:$7M, 14:$7M
    Capps 13:$6M option ($0.25M buyout)
    Doumit 13:$3.5M, 14:$3.5M
    Span 13:$4.75M, 14:$6.5M, 15:$9M club option ($0.5M buyout)
    G Perkins 13:$2.5M, 14:$3.75M, 15:$3.75M, 16:$4.5M club option ($0.3M buyout)

    Cleveland:
    Hafner 13:$13M club option ($2.75M buyout)
    S Choo (arb)
    A Cabrera 13:$6.5M, 14:$10M
    C Perez (2 arbs)
    Masterson (2 arbs)
    C Santana 13:$0.55M, 14:$3.5M, 15:$6M, 16:$8.25M, 17:$12M club opt ($1.2M buyout)
    Joe Smith (arb)

    San Deigo:
    Street 13:$7M, 14:$7M, 15:$7M club option
    Quentin 13:$9.5M, 14:$9.5M, 15:$8M, 16:$10M mutual option ($3M buyout with 320 games played in 2013-15)

    Kansas City:
    B Butler 13:$8M, 14:$8M, 15:$12.5M club option ($1M buyout
    Francoeur 13:$6.75M
    Gordon 13:$9M, 14:$10M, 15:$12.5M, 16:$12.5M player option
    Soria 13:$8M club option, 14:$8.75M club option ($0.75M buyout for each option)
    B Chen 13:$4.5M

    Toronto:
    Bautista 13-15:$14M annually, 16:$14M club option ($1M buyout)
    R Romero 13:$7.5M, 14:$7.5M, 15:$7.5M, 16:$13.1M club option ($0.6M buyout)
    A Lind 13:$5M, 14:$7M club option ($2M buyout),
    Y Escobar 13:$5M, 14:$5M club option, 15:$5M club option
    Morrow 13:$8M, 14:$8M, 15:$10M club option ($1M buyout)
    Encarnacion 13:$8M, 14:$9M, 15:$10M, 16:$10M club option ($2M buyout)

    NY Mets:
    Santana 13:$25.5M, 14:$25M club option ($5.5M buyout)
    J Bay 13:$16M, 14:$17M club option ($3M buyout)
    Wright 13:$16M club option ($1M buyout)
    Pelfrey (arb)
    Francisco 13:$6.5M
    Dickey 13:$5M club option ($0.3M buyout
    Torres (arb)

    Miami:
    J Johnson 13:$13.75M
    Reyes 13:$10M, 14:$16M, 15:$22M, 16:$22M, 17:$22M, 18:$22M club option ($4M buyout)
    Nolasco 13:$11.5M
    H Bell 13:$9M, 14:$9M
    Buehrle 13:$11M, 14:$18M, 15:$19M
    Buck  13:$6M

    Milwaukee:
    Weeks 13:$10M, 14:$11M, 15:$11.5M vesting option
    Wolf 13:$10M club option ($1.5M buyout)
    Hart 13:$10M
    Braun 13-15: $8M16:$19M, 17:$19M, 18:$19M, 19:$18M, 20:$16M, 21:$15M mutual option ($4M buyout)
    A Ramirez 13:$10M, 14:$16M, 15: mutual option ($4M buyout)
    Gallardo 13:$7.75M, 14:$11.25M, 15:$13M club option ($0.6M buyout)

    Philadelphia:
    C Lee 13:$25M, 14:$25M, 15:$25M, 16:$27.5M club option ($12.5M buyout)
    Halladay 13:$20M, 14:$20M option
    Howard 13:$20M, 14:$25M, 15:$25M, 16:$25M, 17:$23M club option ($10M buyout)
    Hamels 13:$19.5M, 14:$22.5M, 15:$22.5M, 16:$22.5M, 17:$22.5M, 18:$22.5M,19:$20M club option ($6M buyout)
    Utley 13:$15M
    Papelbon 13-15: $13M annually, 16:$13M vesting option
    Rollins 13:$11M, 14:$11M, 15: option
    Polanco 13:$5.5M mutual option ($1M buyout)
    Wiggington 13:$4M option ($0.5M buyout)
    C Ruiz 13:$5M club option ($0.5M buyout) + arb

    Seattle:
    F Hernandez 13:$19.5M, 14:$20M
    Figgins 13:$8M, 14:$9M vesting option
    Guttierez 13:$7M, 14:$7.5M club option ($0.5M buyout)
    Vargas (arb)

    Arizona:
    Kubel 13:$7.5M, 14:$7.5M option ($1M buyout
    c Young 13:$8.5M, 14:$11M club option 
    J Upton 13:$9.75M, 14:$14.25M, 15:$14.5M
    M Montero 13:$10M, 14:$10M, 15:$12M, 16:$14M, 17:$14M
    AHill 13:$8M club option, 14:$10M club option
    Putz 3:$6.5M club option ($1.5M buyout)
    Cahill 16:$13M club option ($0.3M buyout), 17:$13.5M club option ($0.5M buyout)

    To be continued...


     
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    Re: Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade

    LAA: I doubt they will trade salary this winter, except maybe Wells.

    Detroit: maybe VMart or Benoit

    Baltimore: Will probably build not dump.

    Pittsburgh: Will probably build not dump.

    Oakland: Coco Crisp?

    LAD: Buying-not selling.

    Chicago WS: Will probably not dump.

    St. Louis: Will probably not dump.

    TB:
    Jamie Shields 13:$9M club option ($1.5M buyout), 14:$12M club option ($1M buyout)

    Atlanta: Jurrjens?

    San Fran: Zito.

    NYY: Not selling.

    Cincy: Not selling.

    Texas: Not selling.

    Wash: Not selling.
     
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    Not one name you listed would I be interested in, with possible exception of Colorado's Carlos Gonzalez....but even then , LOT of moolah.
     
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    [QUOTE]Not one name you listed would I be interested in, with possible exception of Colorado's Carlos Gonzalez....but even then , LOT of moolah.
    Posted by jimedfred[/QUOTE]I'd be interested in anyone good for 2 or 3 years. Nothing longer than that though. The only guy worth a longterm deal in MLB right now outside of the King just flew to LA. BTW, I finally found Laphroiag at one of my neighborhood delis. Good stuff.
     
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    [QUOTE]Not one name you listed would I be interested in, with possible exception of Colorado's Carlos Gonzalez....but even then , LOT of moolah.
    Posted by jimedfred[/QUOTE]

    Id give up anything to have Tulo or cargo. those are two young five tool players you build a team around. cargo and tulo are worth every cent they make.
     
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    On another note. do the redsox take another stab at trying to pry away matt garza from the cubs.
     
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    I would be interested in Morneau at 8 Million in 2013 if the Twins eat 5 Million. I think Willingham could be interesting also as a LF/RF option. I also like the idea of Cabrera from the Indians but I doubt they would trade him.
     
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    [QUOTE]I would be interested in Morneau at 8 Million in 2013 if the Twins eat 5 Million. I think Willingham could be interesting also as a LF/RF option. I also like the idea of Cabrera from the Indians but I doubt they would trade him.
    Posted by JohnnyLefty[/QUOTE]I wouldn't want him for more than 2 years. That probably wouldn't work.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade : I wouldn't want him for more than 2 years. That probably wouldn't work.
    Posted by carnie[/QUOTE]

    Wouldn't want who for more than 2 years?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade : Wouldn't want who for more than 2 years?
    Posted by JohnnyLefty[/QUOTE]You were the guy who brought up Morneau right? I was saying he'd probably be a good fit for a couple of years, but I think he's signed for longer than that.
     
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    He is signed thru 2013 only.



     
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    Since this is a list of players available for trade...just wondering who the Sox will trade to acquire these guys?

     
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    There are certainly not many players on that list that would interest me at this time if I were the Red Sox.  Some of them are good players, but are either making too much money or have contracts that are far too long.

    I am seriously hoping that the Red Sox have changed their approach to those long contracts at high dollars.  There have just been so few players who have performed well enough to justify the 5-7 year contracts at the high money throughout the entire major leagues.  In fact, I am having trouble even naming one of them right now.

    Use David Ortiz as an example of probably having a different approach to his baseball on a one year contract than what he had when he was on a longer contract.   He got more disciplined at the plate, learned how to hit lefties and lost about 25 pounds.  Not sure if he would have done any of these things with a 4 year, $15M deal.  Too bad he got a fluke injury this season.
     
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    [QUOTE]Starting from the worst teams as of now... Houston: None Chicago Cubs:  A Soriano 13- 14 :$18M annually M Garza (arb) Marmol  13 :$9.8M D DeJesus  13 :$4.25M,  14 :$6.5M club option ($1.5M buyout) Colorado: J de la Rosa  13 :$11M player option ($1M buyout) which, if exercised by De La Rosa, gives club $11M club option for 2014 Cuddyer  13 :$10.5M,  14 :$10.5M Tulowitski  13 :$10M,  14 :$16M,  15- 19 :$20M annually,  20 :$14M, 21 :$15M club option ($4M buyout) C Gonzalez  13 :$7.5M,  14 :$10.5M,  15 :$16M,  16 :$17M,  17 :$20M Betancourt  13 :$4.25M,  14 :$4.25M mutual option ($0.25M buyout) Belisle  13 :$4.1M,  14 :$4.25M mutual option ($0.25M buyout) R Hernandez  13 :$3.2M Minnesota: J Mauer  13-18 : $23 million annually Morneau  13 :$14M Willingham  13 :$7M,  14 :$7M Capps  13 :$6M option ($0.25M buyout) Doumit  13 :$3.5M,  14 :$3.5M Span  13 :$4.75M,  14 :$6.5M,  15 :$9M club option ($0.5M buyout) G Perkins  13 :$2.5M,  14 :$3.75M,  15 :$3.75M,  16 :$4.5M club option ($0.3M buyout) Cleveland: Hafner  13 :$13M club option ($2.75M buyout) S Choo (arb) A Cabrera  13 :$6.5M,  14 :$10M C Perez (2 arbs) Masterson (2 arbs) C Santana  13 :$0.55M,  14 :$3.5M,  15 :$6M,  16 :$8.25M,  17 :$12M club opt ($1.2M buyout) Joe Smith (arb) San Deigo: Street  13 :$7M,  14 :$7M,  15 :$7M club option Quentin  13 :$9.5M,  14 :$9.5M,  15 :$8M,  16 :$10M mutual option ($3M buyout with 320 games played in 2013-15) Kansas City: B Butler  13: $8M,  14 :$8M,  15 :$12.5M club option ($1M buyout Francoeur  13 :$6.75M Gordon  13 :$9M,  14 :$10M,  15 :$12.5M,  16 :$12.5M player option Soria  13 :$8M club option,  14 :$8.75M club option ($0.75M buyout for each option) B Chen  13 :$4.5M Toronto: Bautista  13-15 :$14M annually,  16 :$14M club option ($1M buyout) R Romero  13 :$7.5M,  14 :$7.5M,  15 :$7.5M,  16 :$13.1M club option ($0.6M buyout) A Lind  13 :$5M,  14 :$7M club option ($2M buyout), Y Escobar  13 :$5M,  14 :$5M club option,  15 :$5M club option Morrow  13 :$8M,  14 :$8M,  15 :$10M club option ($1M buyout) Encarnacion  13 :$8M,  14 :$9M,  15 :$10M,  16 :$10M club option ($2M buyout) NY Mets: Santana  13 :$25.5M,  14 :$25M club option ($5.5M buyout) J Bay  13 :$16M,  14 :$17M club option ($3M buyout) Wright  13 :$16M club option ($1M buyout) Pelfrey (arb) Francisco  13 :$6.5M Dickey  13 :$5M club option ($0.3M buyout Torres (arb) Miami: J Johnson  13 :$13.75M Reyes  13 :$10M,  14 :$16M,  15 :$22M,  16 :$22M,  17 :$22M,  18 :$22M club option ($4M buyout) Nolasco  13 :$11.5M H Bell  13 :$9M,  14 :$9M Buehrle  13 :$11M,  14 :$18M,  15 :$19M Buck   13 :$6M Milwaukee: Weeks  13 :$10M,  14 :$11M,  15 :$11.5M vesting option Wolf  13 :$10M club option ($1.5M buyout) Hart  13 :$10M Braun 13-15: $8M ,  1 6 :$19M,  17 :$19M,  18 :$19M,  19 :$18M,  20 :$16M,  21 :$15M mutual option ($4M buyout) A Ramirez  13 :$10M,  14 :$16M,  15 : mutual option ($4M buyout) Gallardo  13 :$7.75M,  14 :$11.25M,  15 :$13M club option ($0.6M buyout) Philadelphia: C Lee  13 :$25M,  14 :$25M,  15 :$25M,  16 :$27.5M club option ($12.5M buyout) Halladay  13 :$20M,  14 :$20M option Howard  13 :$20M,  14 :$25M,  15 :$25M,  16 :$25M,  17 :$23M club option ($10M buyout) Hamels  13 :$19.5M,  14 :$22.5M,  15 :$22.5M,  16 :$22.5M,  17 :$22.5M,  18 :$22.5M, 19 :$20M club option ($6M buyout) Utley  13 :$15M Papelbon  13-15 : $13M annually,  16 :$13M vesting option Rollins  13 :$11M,  14 :$11M,  15 : option Polanco  13 :$5.5M mutual option ($1M buyout) Wiggington  13 :$4M option ($0.5M buyout) C Ruiz  13 :$5M club option ($0.5M buyout)  + arb Seattle: F Hernandez  13 :$19.5M,  14 :$20M Figgins  13 :$8M,  14 :$9M vesting option Guttierez  13 :$7M,  14 :$7.5M club option ($0.5M buyout) Vargas (arb) Arizona: Kubel  13 :$7.5M,  14 :$7.5M option ($1M buyout c Young  13 :$8.5M,  14 :$11M club option  J Upton  13 :$9.75M,  14 :$14.25M,  15 :$14.5M M Montero  13 :$10M,  14 :$10M,  15 :$12M,  16 :$14M,  17 :$14M AHill  13 :$8M club option,  14 :$10M club option Putz  3 :$6.5M club option ($1.5M buyout) Cahill  16 :$13M club option ($0.3M buyout),  17 :$13.5M club option ($0.5M buyout) To be continued...
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]
    Let's all face it right now..... This team is NOT... I repeat....NOT going to be a "real" winner for a few years.  It will be a middle of the pack "also-ran" as they try to build the team.  WHY trade for trash on someone else's heap?
    Ben restored some of the integrity of a once-great franchise when he jettisonned several mistakes..... However, if he is fair to the rest of the team then he will also allow several other good players to seek employment where they too can succeed.
    Pedroia... why not let him go and play where he might see the Post -season again? Lester ...if it is going to be a re-building why not trade him to somewhere that he could enjoy life?

    YOU see, I think this giant ball- has rotted from the inside to the very edges of it.  It is time to throw it all in the crapper, and flush it.  Next year we start with some younger kids and play for 4th place in our division.... the year after we try to get good enough to be third... and the year after that pray to be good enough to at least make the second wild-card....

    I do NOT want to try to get the "great" players on the other team.... it doesn;t seem that works....

    The Grass is always greener on the other side of the fence... but maybe that is because their septic tank is backedup and is fertilizing their side better than ours.
     
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    [QUOTE]Starting from the worst teams as of now... Houston: None Chicago Cubs:  A Soriano 13- 14 :$18M annually M Garza (arb) Marmol  13 :$9.8M D DeJesus  13 :$4.25M,  14 :$6.5M club option ($1.5M buyout) Colorado: J de la Rosa  13 :$11M player option ($1M buyout) which, if exercised by De La Rosa, gives club $11M club option for 2014 Cuddyer  13 :$10.5M,  14 :$10.5M Tulowitski  13 :$10M,  14 :$16M,  15- 19 :$20M annually,  20 :$14M, 21 :$15M club option ($4M buyout) C Gonzalez  13 :$7.5M,  14 :$10.5M,  15 :$16M,  16 :$17M,  17 :$20M Betancourt  13 :$4.25M,  14 :$4.25M mutual option ($0.25M buyout) Belisle  13 :$4.1M,  14 :$4.25M mutual option ($0.25M buyout) R Hernandez  13 :$3.2M Minnesota: J Mauer  13-18 : $23 million annually Morneau  13 :$14M Willingham  13 :$7M,  14 :$7M Capps  13 :$6M option ($0.25M buyout) Doumit  13 :$3.5M,  14 :$3.5M Span  13 :$4.75M,  14 :$6.5M,  15 :$9M club option ($0.5M buyout) G Perkins  13 :$2.5M,  14 :$3.75M,  15 :$3.75M,  16 :$4.5M club option ($0.3M buyout) Cleveland: Hafner  13 :$13M club option ($2.75M buyout) S Choo (arb) A Cabrera  13 :$6.5M,  14 :$10M C Perez (2 arbs) Masterson (2 arbs) C Santana  13 :$0.55M,  14 :$3.5M,  15 :$6M,  16 :$8.25M,  17 :$12M club opt ($1.2M buyout) Joe Smith (arb) San Deigo: Street  13 :$7M,  14 :$7M,  15 :$7M club option Quentin  13 :$9.5M,  14 :$9.5M,  15 :$8M,  16 :$10M mutual option ($3M buyout with 320 games played in 2013-15) Kansas City: B Butler  13: $8M,  14 :$8M,  15 :$12.5M club option ($1M buyout Francoeur  13 :$6.75M Gordon  13 :$9M,  14 :$10M,  15 :$12.5M,  16 :$12.5M player option Soria  13 :$8M club option,  14 :$8.75M club option ($0.75M buyout for each option) B Chen  13 :$4.5M Toronto: Bautista  13-15 :$14M annually,  16 :$14M club option ($1M buyout) R Romero  13 :$7.5M,  14 :$7.5M,  15 :$7.5M,  16 :$13.1M club option ($0.6M buyout) A Lind  13 :$5M,  14 :$7M club option ($2M buyout), Y Escobar  13 :$5M,  14 :$5M club option,  15 :$5M club option Morrow  13 :$8M,  14 :$8M,  15 :$10M club option ($1M buyout) Encarnacion  13 :$8M,  14 :$9M,  15 :$10M,  16 :$10M club option ($2M buyout) NY Mets: Santana  13 :$25.5M,  14 :$25M club option ($5.5M buyout) J Bay  13 :$16M,  14 :$17M club option ($3M buyout) Wright  13 :$16M club option ($1M buyout) Pelfrey (arb) Francisco  13 :$6.5M Dickey  13 :$5M club option ($0.3M buyout Torres (arb) Miami: J Johnson  13 :$13.75M Reyes  13 :$10M,  14 :$16M,  15 :$22M,  16 :$22M,  17 :$22M,  18 :$22M club option ($4M buyout) Nolasco  13 :$11.5M H Bell  13 :$9M,  14 :$9M Buehrle  13 :$11M,  14 :$18M,  15 :$19M Buck   13 :$6M Milwaukee: Weeks  13 :$10M,  14 :$11M,  15 :$11.5M vesting option Wolf  13 :$10M club option ($1.5M buyout) Hart  13 :$10M Braun 13-15: $8M ,  1 6 :$19M,  17 :$19M,  18 :$19M,  19 :$18M,  20 :$16M,  21 :$15M mutual option ($4M buyout) A Ramirez  13 :$10M,  14 :$16M,  15 : mutual option ($4M buyout) Gallardo  13 :$7.75M,  14 :$11.25M,  15 :$13M club option ($0.6M buyout) Philadelphia: C Lee  13 :$25M,  14 :$25M,  15 :$25M,  16 :$27.5M club option ($12.5M buyout) Halladay  13 :$20M,  14 :$20M option Howard  13 :$20M,  14 :$25M,  15 :$25M,  16 :$25M,  17 :$23M club option ($10M buyout) Hamels  13 :$19.5M,  14 :$22.5M,  15 :$22.5M,  16 :$22.5M,  17 :$22.5M,  18 :$22.5M, 19 :$20M club option ($6M buyout) Utley  13 :$15M Papelbon  13-15 : $13M annually,  16 :$13M vesting option Rollins  13 :$11M,  14 :$11M,  15 : option Polanco  13 :$5.5M mutual option ($1M buyout) Wiggington  13 :$4M option ($0.5M buyout) C Ruiz  13 :$5M club option ($0.5M buyout)  + arb Seattle: F Hernandez  13 :$19.5M,  14 :$20M Figgins  13 :$8M,  14 :$9M vesting option Guttierez  13 :$7M,  14 :$7.5M club option ($0.5M buyout) Vargas (arb) Arizona: Kubel  13 :$7.5M,  14 :$7.5M option ($1M buyout c Young  13 :$8.5M,  14 :$11M club option  J Upton  13 :$9.75M,  14 :$14.25M,  15 :$14.5M M Montero  13 :$10M,  14 :$10M,  15 :$12M,  16 :$14M,  17 :$14M AHill  13 :$8M club option,  14 :$10M club option Putz  3 :$6.5M club option ($1.5M buyout) Cahill  16 :$13M club option ($0.3M buyout),  17 :$13.5M club option ($0.5M buyout) To be continued...
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]  Most of these players are as much available as the sox Pedey is available.Very few are salary dumps that will be traded for leftovers.Tuliwitzki,Felix,Bautista,Encarnation,Romero,Butler,Ruiz.No chance.
     
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    Moon, I have the utmost respect for you i really do. But why would we go spend millions again for guys that are in their prime or almost past it? Yes I realize that some are younger, but why go back to the 180MIL payroll. The core of this team will now be young. Pay the price and keep building younger.
    Being in your prime is a fleeting thing that can happen quickly and leave just as quickly. The sox have a chance to build like Tampa has now that they have been relieved of 261MiL in contracts. The strangle hold is over, why would we want to go back to that? 
     
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    Re: Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade

    Moon, I have the utmost respect for you i really do. But why would we go spend millions again for guys that are in their prime or almost past it? Yes I realize that some are younger, but why go back to the 180MIL payroll. The core of this team will now be young. Pay the price and keep building younger.
    Being in your prime is a fleeting thing that can happen quickly and leave just as quickly. The sox have a chance to build like Tampa has now that they have been relieved of 261MiL in contracts. The strangle hold is over, why would we want to go back to that? 

    I dont like facts, they cloud my irresponsible Judgement!

    I often go back to read what i wrote only to find out it's not what I said!

     

    I never said I wanted all or any of these guys. I just gave a list of high priced players on teams perhaps willing to cut some salary for the right return.

    The Sox will try and remain competitive next year, if just to sell tickets. They may try and get a Morneau as a bridge to Travis Shaw or someone we move to 1B (Cecchini? Bogaerts?). 

    I am not for this next idea, but it could happen: trade away some of our SS prospects and get Reyes from Miami, a Butler from KC, or Cuddyer from Colo, or someone else signed beyond 2013/2014...



     
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    In Response to Re: Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade:
    [QUOTE]Moon, I have the utmost respect for you i really do. But why would we go spend millions again for guys that are in their prime or almost past it? Yes I realize that some are younger, but why go back to the 180MIL payroll. The core of this team will now be young. Pay the price and keep building younger. Being in your prime is a fleeting thing that can happen quickly and leave just as quickly. The sox have a chance to build like Tampa has now that they have been relieved of 261MiL in contracts. The strangle hold is over, why would we want to go back to that?  I dont like facts, they cloud my irresponsible Judgement! I often go back to read what i wrote only to find out it's not what I said!   I never said I wanted all or any of these guys. I just gave a list of high priced players on teams perhaps willing to cut some salary for the right return. The Sox will try and remain competitive next year, if just to sell tickets. They may try and get a Morneau as a bridge to Travis Shaw or someone we move to 1B (Cecchini? Bogaerts?).  I am not for this next idea, but it could happen: trade away some of our SS prospects and get Reyes from Miami, a Butler from KC, or Cuddyer from Colo, or someone else signed beyond 2013/2014...
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    Understood, I would rather stick it out with the prospects we have gathered and the few more we may get from trades or free agents going bye bye. Just my thoughts.
     
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    Re: Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade

    Only a total idiot wouldn't want Jose Bautista, Kin Felix, Cliff Lee,  Ryan Braun and any number of people on that list in a Red Sox uniform.
    One clown said only Carlos Gonzalez.
    Glad he's not running the team.
     
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    Re: Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade

    Great post MOONMAN, thank you so much for your contributions.......  I see the Sox in the drivers seat going forward.... I also see the $ox being very "SMART" with future  F A  desires.........  What an opportunity this trade has provided, my GOSH "broom cleaning of the roster"  !!!!!
     
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    Re: Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade

    I would rather have the prospects up for a year, and figure out who can play and who cannot, than have the red sox spend a ton of money and get another average non playoff team.

    Now if the Red Sox will address the cancer sitting in the front office named Lucchino.  I am more concerned with the leaks about the cell phone text, throwing Francona under the bus than the ball players.

     
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    In Response to Re: Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade:
    [QUOTE]I would rather have the prospects up for a year, and figure out who can play and who cannot, than have the red sox spend a ton of money and get another average non playoff team. Now if the Red Sox will address the cancer sitting in the front office named Lucchino.  I am more concerned with the leaks about the cell phone text, throwing Francona under the bus than the ball players.
    Posted by mudbugger[/QUOTE]Excuse me.....  It's LUCCIANNO's to us .....
     
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    Re: Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade

    I would rather have the prospects up for a year, and figure out who can play and who cannot...

    One year is not enough to know anything, especially if they were hurried by a year or two.
     
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    Re: Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade

    I would like to see Franceour in RF in Fenway (with Ross in LF), Masterson pitching in the 4 slot in the rotation, and Morneau at 1B.  Just would not be willing to trade any young pitching prospects or any position players named Brentz, Bradley, Bogaerts, or Marerro (and possibly Swihart).  The question is, what could the Sox get for Padilla, Aceves, Iglesias, Vitek, Cechinni, Wilson, Hassan, etc. (ie, redundancy).  I doubt you get Masterson or Morneau for any of them, but you might get Franceour.
     
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    In response to "Re: Some Possible Higher Salary Players Possibly Available This Winter Via Trade": [QUOTE]LAA: I doubt they will trade salary this winter, except maybe Wells. Detroit: maybe VMart or Benoit Baltimore: Will probably build not dump. Pittsburgh: Will probably build not dump. Oakland: Coco Crisp? LAD: Buying-not selling. Chicago WS: Will probably not dump. St. Louis: Will probably not dump. TB: Jamie Shields  13 :$9M club option ($1.5M buyout),  14 :$12M club option ($1M buyout) Atlanta: Jurrjens? San Fran: Zito. NYY: Not selling. Cincy: Not selling. Texas: Not selling. Wash: Not selling. Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE] I'll trade for billy butler. Not an "elite" slugger but right handed 1st baseman with 300 25 100 potential !! Too bad hell be another mike sweeney
     
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