Soriano Signs With The NATS......

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    Soriano Signs With The NATS......

    2Years 28Mill............

     
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    Alright, Coupon-Clippin' Hal. :-)

     
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    Nats just got even more dangerous...Should be interesting in the NLE this year...

     
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    In response to Triumph-'s comment:

    yesterday

    great update




    Thanks, My Computter Runs 24hr Behind EveryOne Else. Now What TROLL Might You Be...LOL.

     
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    ^^^ such an abusive (not to mention OFFENSIVE) picture.

     

    you should be ashamed of yourself!! and perma-banned for that matter.

    The amount of smut you post is sickening!!!

     
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    ^^^ such an abusive (not to mention OFFENSIVE) picture.

     

    you should be ashamed of yourself!! and perma-banned for that matter.

    The amount of smut you post is sickening!!!

     




    LOL Mef

    U R a marked man

     



    aren't we all?!

     
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    yanks trying to be like sox picking up supplemental draft picks.

     
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    In response to bald-predictions' comment:

    yanks trying to be like sox picking up supplemental draft picks.



    It's the way to go now.  The TV contracts are giving teams a lot more money to spend and the new penalties for going over the luxury tax are keeping everyone but the Dodgers in check.  It's bringing the "have nots" a lot closer to "haves," which is good for baseball. 

    More and more teams are locking up their own young talent, which makes developing your own players more important than ever before. The landscape has drastically changed over the last few years and the Red Sox and Yankees clearly won't just be able to overpay for whatever free agent they want anymore.  The unbalanced schedule has also made trades within your own division a lot less likely and the extra playoff teams are making more teams feel that they don't need to completely rebuild.  The A's and the O's clearly made more teams think, "Why not us?"  The Sox seem to understand the new landscape, so hopefully they are on the way back.

     
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    In response to Softlaw1's comment:

     last few years and the Red Sox and Yankees clearly won't just be able to overpay for whatever free agent they want anymore

    Shane 13 million x 3

    Dumpster 12.5 million X 2

    S. Drew 10 million

    Napoli ~ 13 million X ?

    I'd say 45 million plus on 2013 FA is "being able to overpay". The Red Sox management doesn't understand much, and keeps getting exposed for failing to develop talent and failing to understand the value in the trade market.

    Just as sure as Hanley was traded a few weeks after "the new building" ripped off the taxpayers, the Red Sox have embarrassed themselves by making more desperation moves in sorry FA veterans.

     



    I disagree.  "3/39" is what "3/18" was a few short years ago.  Victorino actually turned down more money to sign here.  Victorino made a lot of sense for the Sox because not only could he give them good defense in right, he was insurance in center if they moved on from Ellsbury, which seems to be the case, since they tried to move him this offseason. If Ellsbury walks, Victorino is a solid veteran bridge to Bradley.  The deal makes ssense to me.  Plus, he's the type of high energy guy that fans will probably be able to identify with.

    The Sox were serious about Hamilton as well, but when the Angels lost Greinke, Angels owner Artie Moreno essentially did what the Sox ownership group did when they lost Jayson Werth at the last minute.  The Sox overpayed for the next available high profile player in Carl Crawford, while the Angels signed Hamilton to a deal no one else would.  The Angels GM was against the deal.

    The Sox haven't made any deals that cost them draft picks and they haven't signed any guys that will handcuff their ability to spend money in the future.  They may not have come out of this offseason being able to implement "Plan A," but they have a better team than last year and they haven't sacrificed any resources that will effect them moving forward. 

     

     
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    In response to pinstripezac's comment:

    Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN
    Yankees were fired up, by the way, to get formal, final word that they'll be getting the comp pick for Soriano, along with Swisher comp pick Expand

     

    Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
    Never thought I'd see day yanks celebrating draft choices. But to replace swish/sori they have hall of famers ichiro and mo Expand

     

    Jayson Stark ‏@jaysonst
    Asked one MLB official the last time #Yankees accumulated 3 of top 32 picks in any draft. His reply: "I'm pretty sure that answer is never."



    They were fired up that Swisher and Soriano signed?  Did they think they weren't going to get signed?

     
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    yanks trying to be like sox picking up supplemental draft picks.

     



    It's the way to go now.  The TV contracts are giving teams a lot more money to spend and the new penalties for going over the luxury tax are keeping everyone but the Dodgers in check.  It's bringing the "have nots" a lot closer to "haves," which is good for baseball. 

     

    More and more teams are locking up their own young talent, which makes developing your own players more important than ever before. The landscape has drastically changed over the last few years and the Red Sox and Yankees clearly won't just be able to overpay for whatever free agent they want anymore.  The unbalanced schedule has also made trades within your own division a lot less likely and the extra playoff teams are making more teams feel that they don't need to completely rebuild.  The A's and the O's clearly made more teams think, "Why not us?"  The Sox seem to understand the new landscape, so hopefully they are on the way back.

     

    Super post Jasco. You are much more articulate than I am. You hit the nail on the head here.
    Other teams across the USA now have rich owners who are willing to spend and other teams now have lucrative, new, TV and radio contracts that serve new expanding populations. People are migrating to those areas of the Country. The demographics have changed.

     

    MLB has done a great with their new luxury tax penalties and changes in revenue sharing regulations that scare nearly every franchise from overspending.  This is good. It is great for baseball. No longer will the same teams be lazy and buy pennants.



    Thanks, LR3683paw....I agree that it's good to see more and more teams able to have a chance.  I'm also glad the Sox were able to win a few Championships before the landscape changed and clearly made it more difficult...

     
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    ...they haven't signed any guys that will handcuff their ability to spend money in the future.

    The future is now. We are already close to the luxury tax limit. We have Victorino signed until 2015. Certainly his $1`3M/yr is going to effect who we can sign the next 2 winters. Dempster will do the same for one more winter. Naps may or may not depending on the final resolution.

    Sure, when compared to CC, Beckett and AGon's long term commitments, the new ones we made are not as bad looking on the surface due to shorter terms, but they will "handcuff" us for the next year or two. Neither SV or RD are likely to net us a draft pick when their term is up, and neither is so good that they will "block a prospect" (I love this silly one!), but the overall view is that nobody we signed this winter look to significantly help us get over the top in 2014 or 2015. Their best attributes, according to some posters here, are that they will be gone soon and we didn't lose any prospects to get them. 

    Their skill level seems secondary to some here, and the pink glasses used to view our signings are quickly taken off when judging alternative plans put forth by some of us that are not too excited by the overall direction this winter has taken us. For example, Justin Upton has been torn to shreads on this site, while Shane V has been glorified to no end. Posters point to no lost prospects and how we are looking good for 2014 and beyond, but then bash the notion that we could have gotten some nice prospects for players we will be losing anyways after the lost season of 2013: Ellsbury, Salty and Breslow. Holding onto these 3 guys should fly in the face of "the youth movement" and the "great longterm plan", but instead some posters are clinging to the hopes of a 2013 miracle as a reason to not trade these guys, while at the same time blasting anyone with a plan to trade a couple prospects or players who will be walking soon for a player that helps us now and maybe the next 2+ years as well (as in Upton or Myers). I'm just seeing a lot of selective reasoning that flips and flops to match up positively with whatever Ben move was made. If Ben had traded for Upton, the some of the same guys bashing the suggested trades to get him would have been hailing it as brilliant had he made the move 5 weeks ago.

    I realize there are many posters here who will bash Ben for everything he has done, is doing and will do, but there are also several who do exactly the opposite. I am neither. I am giving Ben a chance to prove me wrong, and I hope I am wrong.

    I was so happy after the Dodger trade. Perhaps, I let my hopes get too high, and I don't mean in the sense that I expected to seriously compete this year, in fact, it was quite the opposite. I had hoped for   a total rebuild that would have made us better in 2013 (perhaps only slightly), but would clearly had made us look to get stronger as we neared 2015. That hasn't happened, despite the pleas that not trading any kids has somehow made us stronger. At best, it kept us the same looking forward. The flip side could have been to make 1-2 bold big splash signings and try to at least have a legitimate sliver of hope in 2013, while locking up a player that rates to be helpful in 2015 and 2 more years afterwards, even if on a decline in productivity. I understand the risk, but at least it would have given us a real chance this year, without effecting the future negatively any more than what has been done this winter already.

    Ben has played it half way, and in my opinion he did neither enough to win now or to help us win later. I will say the players he signed could all come together and give me a shock in 2013, or perhaps they could even help more than I project in 2014 and 2015, but I can't help but think we could have done more with all this money we spent. 

    We chose the weakest FA market in memory, the most overpaid FA market in memory to make the most signings in memory. What part of that makes sense. No amount of rationalizing that they are "short term deals" takes away from the stark reality that we spent like never before at the worst time ever. That's the bare bones reality of this winter. Pleasant surprises may occur, and I'll be rooting for them to happen every pitch of every game, but I have to stay true to my beliefs based on realism and facts and my philosphical baseball positions that are largely based on breaking some paradigms, building a strong starting rotation, and having a superb fielding SS as the foundation of building a team that can compete for years and years. All is not lost; our kids can rise up like Lynn & Rice and shock the world. A future trade or signing may tip the balance to the good. A bunch of little things can all come together to creat a whole that is greater than the sum of its parts, but to tell you the truth, I'm tired of wishing on 15 miracles to all happen at once, and trying to minimize the fact that we have not addressed losing Schilling (or Pedro) and Manny, and until we make steps in that direction, we will not be taken seriously by objective baseball people.

     
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    How long ago was it that Soriano dissapointed in New York? And now he is being well paid for what? Crazy.

     

    Plus the Nats need as many pitchers as they can get because they will shut-down Stras in September.

     
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