Re: Sorry, but I don't like it
posted at 7/31/2013 12:13 PM EDT
In response to southpaw777's comment:
In response to craze4sox's comment:
In response to southpaw777's comment:
In response to LloydDobler's comment:
Iggy was a potential fixture at a position that has been a revolving door since Nomar left. He's been better than anyone could have possibly expected this year -- who cares how many of his hits are infield hits?
I understand he had value and would have to be moved to get someone, but he's worth a lot more than a decent 32-year-old pitcher who hasn't won more than 11 games since 2007.
I'll be happy to eat crow in October, but I doubt that will happen.
The Sox do because he was lucky and the luck was quickly running out. Sorry, but although the glove was good, Bogey is the better all around SS. Like the Sox, I prefer a more balanced game from my SS. Ill take slightly worse defense if the offense is as good as Bogey's is. Also with either Middy or Cecchini at 3b, THAT will be a formidable left side IF in MLB.
I was worried about Peavy too. The injury had nothing to do with his prior arm issues, but Im still concerned. The Sox had to make a move for the post season with Buch's status unknown. Ben had an obligation to the fans and the team without hurting the future. They believe Bogey is the future SS so they werent interrupting anything. we also got a controllable RH reliever who throws heat and is controlled through 2020 for the future as well.
Its a hard pill to swallow for some and I understand that, but IMHO a move had to be done and when you can get a SP like Peavy for that price in this years market, you do it.
I totally agree southpaw, Iggy was a great defender but Bogaerts could put up Machado/Nomar type numbers at some point and he's still only 20. Bradley and Bogy were the ones to keep even though it may hurt our defense. If "big if" Middy can contribute it will also solve our need for another RH bat. Middy is presently hitting 313 in the minors against lefties which doesn't mean a great deal until he can do it here but its a good sign.
Hey craze! good "seeing" you again...
I understand all the dislike for this trade. Iggy is a great defender. But I agree with the Sox in selling very high on Iggy. Theres just no telling at this point where his hitting will end up. Most of his hits were IF ones that found a hole or perfectly place. Thats luck never lasts. I enjoyed watching the kid field and he should win a few GG if he holds a FT job. With Detroits lineup, he shouldnt have an issue. They are a better fit for him IMHO.
Bogey is just a better all around player. We will lose a bit on defense, but his offense should more than make up for it. I know its tough for some to see a solid glove up the middle go, But with Buchs health a question they had to made a move IMHO.
Peavy started 30+ games last year after taking care of his arm issues. His injury this year wasnt related to that arm and he looked good before the rib injury. His late season numbers are great and hes a huge competitive guy. The Sox must have liked what they saw on his medical reports enough to feel comfortable trading for him along with his deal that runs through 2014, which will give guys like Webster, Ranaudo, Barnes and even Workman (although he appears to be ready) to develop another year and also gives the Sox enough starters to possibly deal one over the winter if they so choose.
Buchholz, Lester, Peavy, lackey, Doubront, Dempster...I like it. Thats a solid top 3 with another 3 great options. They key word is health.
I wish Iggy the best and if not for the Peralta situation I don't think we could have got Peavy without giving up much more. I agree on Workman and think he can help Taz from the right side in the pen for now. Our team will be fine and the SP was desperately needed. I give our FO credit for not just hoping for the best this season, they seem to be in it to win it.
If Clay returns to form we have a great PS rotation to go along with a decent offense. If Middy comes around? Great things could happen sooner than any of us ever expected.