Source: MLB could suspend Arod for playing poker

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    If he is banned, a la Pete Rose, or suspended by the commissioner, will that free the Yankees from the albatross of a contract?
     
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    Shouldn't he have been with the team when this happened?  I know he's on the DL, but isn't he getting ready to play soon?
     
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    Shouldn't he have been with the team when this happened?  I know he's on the DL, but isn't he getting ready to play soon?
    Posted by rickerd2
    It is not real clear when this happened because while the story is just re-surfacing for the second time there is no indication that it happened during the regular season.

    It is just one of those nagging stories that won't go away. 

    And based on a few of the other comments I don't think baseball's issue is with gaming, it is with illegal high stakes games and that is because it can draw some nasty elements along with guys like Affleck and Damon. Add in reports of a lot of coke at the game and the prior admonishments he reportedly got about getting involved in this kind of high roller fringe activity and you have MLB pizzed.

    And if I was a NYY fan I'd be pizzed that A-Rod was playing cards with RS fans.
     
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    A game a poker and he should be crucified. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is a knucklehead, no one can argue that, but if this warrants more than a 2 game suspension, then Selig needs to suspend himself for stupidity. Cash poker games in clubs or homes are illegal and happen everyday across every walk of life. Thank God my job isn't so strict.
    Posted by jesseyeric


    I'm not sure poker at home is illegal.  My understanding is that it is illegal to cut the pot.

    The problem with being at underground games is that they are typically filled with criminal types, and often run by the mob.  And heavy gambling losses could lead to a lapse in judgement.  People still question whether or not Jordan's attempt at BB was a cover for a gambling suspension.

    I like a good poker game as much as anyone, but if I saw the CFO of a major company in a big-time underground poker den, I'd think it inappropriate.
     
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    If he is banned, a la Pete Rose, or suspended by the commissioner, will that free the Yankees from the albatross of a contract?
    Posted by parhunter1


    please

    there is no comparing poker to betting on BB

    I can see why MLB wouldn't like it

    bottom line there nothing wrong with a guy playing cards with his friends



















     
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     This is from an article from the NYTimes.com:
     
    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/08/03/2011-08-03_mlb_investigating_alex_rodriguezs_involvement_in_highstakes_illegal_poker_games.html

    "MLB investigators and the  FBI are looking into a supermarket tabloid report A-Rod participated in underground Texas Hold 'Em games in  Los Angeles and  Florida that turned violent, a source said."'

    Also this:
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     Star Magazine reported that Rodriguez attended an underground game at the Beverly Hills mansion of record executive Cody Leibel, where a fight nearly broke out and cocaine was being used in the open.

    One poker player at the Beverly Hills game knocked down the report, insisting the Bomber's All-Star was not there.

    "A-Rod was not at that game," pro-poker player  Dan Bilzerian told the Daily News. "It's ridiculous."

    Bilzerian claimed to be the main source of the Star story, but insisted the magazine got it wrong.

    "I would remember because I got stiffed," said Bilzerian, adding that the game took place at Leibel's house in November 2009.

    "He wasn't there, I'm telling you," Bilzerian said of A-Rod. "He was playing in the World Series at the time."

     
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     This is from an article from the NYTimes.com:   http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/08/03/2011-08-03_mlb_investigating_alex_rodriguezs_involvement_in_highstakes_illegal_poker_games.html "MLB investigators and the   FBI are looking into a supermarket tabloid report A-Rod participated in underground Texas Hold 'Em games in   Los Angeles and   Florida that turned violent, a source said."' Also this: "   Star Magazine reported that Rodriguez attended an underground game at the Beverly Hills mansion of record executive Cody Leibel , where a fight nearly broke out and cocaine was being used in the open. One poker player at the Beverly Hills game knocked down the report, insisting the Bomber's All-Star was not there. "A-Rod was not at that game," pro-poker player   Dan Bilzerian told the Daily News. "It's ridiculous." Bilzerian claimed to be the main source of the Star story, but insisted the magazine got it wrong. "I would remember because I got stiffed," said Bilzerian, adding that the game took place at Leibel's house in November 2009. "He wasn't there, I'm telling you," Bilzerian said of A-Rod. "He was playing in the World Series at the time."
    Posted by mrmojo1120


    Who's going to believe that?
     
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    If Arod ever gets suspended, I'm sure the Yankees will have a deal in place that he serves his suspension during spring training.
     
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      From ESPN.com: CHICAGO -- Major League Baseball is taking "very seriously" the allegations that Alex Rodriguez took part in some illegal, underground poker games, one of which reportedly turned violent, and he could face suspension if his participation in the games is confirmed. "We're talking to people involved in the investigation and we're taking this very seriously," said an MLB executive who spoke to ESPNNewYork.com on condition of anonymity. "Because he had been warned about this before, I would say a possible suspension would be very much in play."  The allegations, first published by RadarOnline.com, are that the New York Yankees third baseman played in at least two of the games, one of which took place at the Beverly Hills mansion of a record executive at which "cocaine was openly used and a fight nearly broke out when one of the players refused to pay after losing "more than a half-million dollars." According to the story, details of which were reportedly provided by another player at the games, Rodriguez "tried to distance himself from the game," once the violence broke out. "He just shook his head, not knowing what the hell happened," the whistle-blower revealed. "He didn't want to deal with it at all. He was like, 'OK, whatever. It's your game.' I would estimate A-Rod lost, like, a few thousand dollars that night. After everything that happened, he paid up and left." In 2005, Rodriguez had been warned about gambling in underground poker clubs by the Yankees and by baseball commissioner Bud Selig, both of whom were concerned that possible involvement with gamblers who might be betting on baseball games could result in a Pete Rose-type lifetime ban from baseball. Various reports have the games under investigation taking place as far back as 2007. Although baseball's investigation centers upon Rodriguez's card-playing and he is not thought to have gambled on the outcome of any baseball games, the fact that he may have disregarded Selig's warning is said to have angered the commissioner. "Bud's totally fed up with him," said a baseball insider. "It's like there's something new with him every day and it's impossible to keep up with it."  MLB is also concerned that Rodriguez's name will resurface in the ongoing federal investigation of Dr. Anthony Galea, the Toronto physician charged with smuggling human growth hormone and other illegal substances into the United States. Galea has treated numerous professional athletes, including Rodriguez and Tiger Woods . Rodriguez, currently rehabbing in Miami after knee surgery on July 11, could not be reached for comment and a call to his representative, Richard Rubenstein, was not immediately returned. Previously, Rubenstein has denied Rodriguez's participation in any illegal poker games. Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said, "I don't know anything about it," when contacted Wednesday afternoon. According to the baseball executive, MLB has yet to positively determine that Rodriguez took part in the games, which reportedly included actors Tobey Maguire, Leonardo DiCaprio, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. The man did not know if baseball's investigators had yet spoken to Rodriguez about the allegations, but he confirmed MLB has at least two investigators working on the case. "I could see us trying to pursue this a lot further," the executive said. "The truth is still out there somewhere." Recently, it was revealed that Rodriguez still employs his cousin, Yuri Sucart, after fingering him as the "mule" who transported his performance-enhancing drugs in 2003 after his steroid usage was revealed in a 2009 Sports Illustrated story, despite being told by the Yankees that Sucart would no longer be allowed in the clubhouse and encouraged to keep his distance from him. "You get the feeling that Alex says what he thinks he needs to say to get by, and then goes out and does what he wants," the MLB executive said.
    Posted by mrmojo1120


    ARod cracks me up, at this point I wonder "if found guilty" it would be a breach his contract?  I'm sure the Yankees at this point are probably pretty tired of ARod and all the bad press. 


     
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    I wonder if Tiger Woods and Dr. Galea were at that poker table?
    Posted by softylaw


    your only good post
     
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    Yankees' Alex Rodriguez playing poker is only a big deal because he has proven to be a lightning rod

    Jim Rich

    Thursday, August 4th 2011, 4:00 AM

    Why is everybody always picking on Alex Rodriguez? Who cares if he plays high-stakes poker?  

    Should MLB be probing into what Alex Rodriguez does away from the field and the clubhouse? Absolutely. Who's to say he's not gambling in the clubhouse or on team charters. Nothing good can come of that
    No way. What he does away when he's not in uniform is nobody's business, unless he's breaking the law. If that's the case, let the cops handle it
    He's a lightning rod for controversy, so he brought this upon himself

    Maybe Alex Rodriguez played in a card game where poker pros and Hollywood big shots had fist fights over $500,000 debts while snorting cocaine off of their chip stacks.

    Maybe he didn't.

    Either way, who cares?

    Of the millions of people who play poker outside the regulated confines of American casinos, why does A-Rod always end up cast as the degenerate villain?

    The same thing happened in the fall of 2005 when the Daily News reported that the Yankees superstar was frequenting Big Apple card dens. The Bombers brass and MLB honchos huffed and puffed - "No one admonished him," one source said at the time, "but he was made aware that this could put him in an unflattering light or look bad in the media" - but they ultimately found no grounds for discipline.

    "There's nothing he's doing that violates the morals clause," one baseball lawyer said in November of 2005. "Mostly it's just stupid. Why put himself in a position like that? Why doesn't he go play in an apartment somewhere?"

    It seems A-Rod had taken that advice as he hasn't been spotted since in what's left of the New York City underground poker scene. Yet, here he is, getting heat now for playing in games held in his or an acquaintance's apartment.

    It's silly to suggest that A-Rod, with his $264 million in career earnings, is someone whom we should feel too much pity for, but all of this poker persecution does seem a bit selective.

    Over the past seven years, I have been in underground clubs with former Jet Jonathan Vilma, former Net Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy, now of the Pacers. Those sightings ended up reported in the Daily News, yet did not elicit calls for investigations or suspensions of any of the athletes involved. Nor should they have. But that begs this question: Why is Rodriguez's poker playing being viewed as seedy or criminal?

    In New York, as well as California - two of the three states where Rodriguez has been alleged to have played - it is not illegal to participate in underground or home games. In Florida, where it is alleged that the Yankees slugger had hosted a game at his Miami pad, it is against the law to own, operate or manage a game where pots exceed $10. In theory, this is where A-Rod could find himself in some trouble. The Florida Attorney General's office would not comment specifically on reports of Rodriguez's game.

    It would seem unlikely that someone hosting a poker game at their home, regardless of the reportedly astronomical stakes involved, would garner much attention from authorities. The majority of laws concerning poker in most states are either unclear or not heavily enforced. As sources in the NYPD vice squad have told me, the only time law enforcement cares about poker games is when there are other illegal activities such as narcotics use, bookmaking or organized crime.

    MLB sources have said that the FBI is also investigating the high-stakes games in which A-Rod has allegedly played. The feds' interest, however, likely stems from a pending lawsuit involving crooked hedge-fund manager Brad Ruderman, who allegedly hosted the Beverly Hills games. A-Rod is not the target of the suit.

    So what to make of this latest handwringing over whether there is something wrong with A-Rod's poker habits?

    There are probably many people - some maybe even inside the Yankees organization - who would love to see Alex Rodriguez take a huge fall for this. But unless there is something more nefarious lurking beneath the surface here, Rodriguez, hate him or love him, is just a guy who likes to play poker.

    If that's a crime, then we better start building more prisons.
     
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    He should be suspended even if he wasn't there.

    I am sure he is guilty of something, so, suspend him now, and charge him later.
     
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    Thanks for the article Babe. Here's on exerpt that may be prove a little problematic for A-Rod if the reports about coke being openly used are true...

    The majority of laws concerning poker in most states are either unclear or not heavily enforced. As sources in the NYPD vice squad have told me, the only time law enforcement cares about poker games is when there are other illegal activities such as narcotics use, bookmaking or organized crime.

    Also who was at the game and what their profiles are will matter. Every sports league in North America has issues with players consorting with known gamblers and criminals.

    But the idea that this would be treated like the Rose issue by MLB or the that the NYY would use it to try and get out of A-Rod's contract is remote at best.

    If they really wanted to send a message they might suspend him for 10-15 games? That assumes they can ever clearly establish he was there and the details regarding the presence of narcotics and who else was there. 
     
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