SOX against LHP this year

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    SOX against LHP this year

    At beginning of the season I thought Sox lineup was heavy with lefties, and that could be their Achilles heel against LHP.

    It has been a pleasant surprise how they have performed so far though.

    Won last 11 games against LHP.

    Both AGonz and Papi are hitting LHP really good.

    Hopefully this will hold true for rest of season and post-season.

    I look forward to a WS against the Phillies, who have two very good LHP in Lee and Hamels.
     
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    [QUOTE]At beginning of the season I thought Sox lineup was heavy with lefties, and that could be their Achilles heel against LHP. It has been a pleasant surprise how they have performed so far though. Won last 11 games against LHP. Both AGonz and Papi are hitting LHP really good. Hopefully this will hold true for rest of season and post-season. I look forward to a WS against the Phillies, who have two very good LHP in Lee and Hamels.
    Posted by blingblang[/QUOTE]

    Some people make a big deal about the lefty/righty thing.  Our lefties like Papi, Ells and Adrian are all hittting lefties pretty well.  Its guys like Crawford and Drew that hurt us.  
     
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    Pedey had been hitting lefties poorly as well, but this year he has turned it around.

    We have done very well vs LHPs this year ...
    .273/.351/.434/.786
    vs RHPs:
    .274/.346/.453/.799

    However, the lefty/righty numbers still show the issue is real:
    Righties vs LHPs: .853 OPS
    Lefties  vs. LHPs: .713

    Papi is at 1.004. AGon is at .723, Ells .708, Drew .623, &
    CC .474 (the guy I was laughed at for saying he should be platooned.)

    Lefties   vs RHPs: .852
    Righties vs RHPs: .666

    (Pedey vs RHPs: .629, Scutaro .671)
     
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    There was one poster who went for years on Ortiz needing a bench spot v. LHP. The same guy who claimed the Twins couldn't afford Mauer. The same guy who claims Wakefield has been a solid member of the rotation.

    The only loss during the streak was a game started by Tim Wakefield. He's been a loser his entire career, which is why he's frequently left off the playoff roster and slotted to avoid the tipping point games during the season.
     
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    There's a guy who wanted Crawford to lead off, even vs LHPs, who wanted BHall instead of Lowrie, who wanted VMart to catch 130+ games for us this year (said Salty/VTek would be horrible), and who said theTwins would pay Mauer $17M/yr and he'd tke it, and that AGon would be extended at $18M.

    He also thinks Wake has been useless this year, Ellsbury should have been traded right before his prime years, and Beckett was "too fat" to be extended.

    Where's the "InEpstien" reference been hiding lately?
     
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    Crawford most certianly should leadoff. He was ruined by the Red Sox incompetent Epstein by pretending he's a superstar #3 slugger. He needs to change his approach and take over the career leadoff spot.

    Bill Hall isn't a pretzel and Lowrie is a butcher plus no pop and weak v. RHP. Lowrie isn't capable of playing a corner OF slot, without doing belly flops.

    VMart should be the starting catcher along with a solid defensive catcher backup. Don't brag on Salty/Geriatrics Tek and catching and throwing the baseball.

    The same loser who was so embarrassed for being wrong about the Twins being able to afford Mauer, he has to lie about what Softlaw said about the details of Mauer's value. That's because you weren't able to understand why the Twins could afford him and what his value was.

    Wastefield and his goofball with senior naps of week long average time between starts are a wasted roster spot that should be invested in players who can see their willy. 

    Bellsbury should be traded "in his prime" for a better player and long term fit. 

    Beckett should not have been extended on opening day 2010, as his value would only go down or stay the same because he was fat and out of shape for 2010 and could have been signed for a fraction of his current contract had InEpstein simply waited for the fat man to hit the DL. 

    Only a feeble mind would think that the Yankee GM's and all the modern era titles were the work of a smart GM. Take a look at the butchery of Theo on Beckett's extension and all the other "sunk cost" as he likes to call him many mistakes. Add Crawford to this "sunk cost" on years of that silly contract. 

    As always, Moonslow, you remail a flailing bereft minded Wastefield and Lowell "insurance" apologist.
     
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    All this BS for a first place team.  Sad.
     
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    Crawford most certianly should leadoff. He was ruined by the Red Sox incompetent Epstein by pretending he's a superstar #3 slugger. He needs to change his approach and take over the career leadoff spot.

    Crawford has a miserable OBP as a leadoff hitter. He stinks vs LHPs, your latest bash category for Jake.

    Bill Hall isn't a pretzel and Lowrie is a butcher plus no pop and weak v. RHP. Lowrie isn't capable of playing a corner OF slot, without doing belly flops.

    "capable" that's a laugh.  Plus, we don't need a 5th OF'er, we barely use the 4th as it is.

    VMart should be the starting catcher along with a solid defensive catcher backup. Don't brag on Salty/Geriatrics Tek and catching and throwing the baseball.

    Let's see how VMart does in year 3 & 4. By then you will have had 160 new & different monikers.

    The same loser who was so embarrassed for being wrong about the Twins being able to afford Mauer, he has to lie about what Softlaw said about the details of Mauer's value. That's because you weren't able to understand why the Twins could afford him and what his value was.

    I admit I was wrong on Mauer staying in MN. We both never expeted them to pay that much. Too bad you can't admit you were way off as well.

    Wastefield and his goofball with senior naps of week long average time between starts are a wasted roster spot that should be invested in players who can see their willy. 

    He's killing your projections forcing you to cherry-pick timeframes that include his injury andrecovery period. 6th startes aren't expected to start every 5 day: do the math bozo. Besides, since became the 4th starter, he has pitched very well, and has pitched 5 starts in 24 days (May 22- June 14th). He's faced the 10th average best offense in MLB over those 5 games and is 3-1.

    Yeah, let's get a dumpster player that will do better than that.

    Bellsbury should be traded "in his prime" for a better player and long term fit. 

    Like Kemp and his "shorter term"?

    Beckett should not have been extended on opening day 2010, as his value would only go down or stay the same because he was fat and out of shape for 2010 and could have been signed for a fraction of his current contract had InEpstein simply waited for the fat man to hit the DL. 

    In your cas "hindsight" means you're looking at your hindquarter continuously.

    Only a feeble mind would think that the Yankee GM's and all the modern era titles were the work of a smart GM. Take a look at the butchery of Theo on Beckett's extension and all the other "sunk cost" as he likes to call him many mistakes. Add Crawford to this "sunk cost" on years of that silly contract. 

    This "feeble" mind was the leader in stating CC's deal was a waste.  You wanted the guy to leadoff instead of Jake. Wow! Brilliant!

    As always, Moonslow, you remail a flailing bereft minded Wastefield and Lowell "insurance" apologist.

    Keep searching for a nugget of truth. You are spiraling out of control with more and more lies, and more and more wrong prognostications.
     
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    [QUOTE]The only loss during the streak was a game started by Tim Wakefield.
    Posted by betterredthandead[/QUOTE]

    So Wake is the reason the Sox got shut out... That makes perfect sense!

    7 IP 1 ER.  Clearly Wake is worthless and caused the only loss on the road trip.
     
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    and I can hear it now....Crawford is a pretzel.
     
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    Clearly Wastefield was the starting pitcher in the only loss during the streak. He's responsible when the team loses a game he starts, just as you claime he deserves the credit when he gives up 4 runs and gets a win for a weak pitching performance.

    Wakefield's entire career has carried the halo of a loser's aura. Putting him on the post season roster or in a tipping point game is suicide.

     
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    [QUOTE]Clearly Wastefield was the starting pitcher in the only loss during the streak. He's responsible when the team loses a game he starts, just as you claime he deserves the credit when he gives up 4 runs and gets a win for a weak pitching performance. Wakefield's entire career has carried the halo of a loser's aura. Putting him on the post season roster or in a tipping point game is suicide.
    Posted by betterredthandead[/QUOTE]

    Crawford never looks relaxed at the plate much like Dustin and Youk recently.  All of them need to take a lesson from Adrian.  Dustins ankle may be hindering his performance but he and Youk both are swinging at pitches they didn't in the past.

    I agree, no leadoff for Crawford until he can show us a little plate discipline.   
     
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    He has never been a high OBP guy. Your wait will be longand fruitless.
     
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    [QUOTE]There was one poster who went for years on Ortiz needing a bench spot v. LHP. The same guy who claimed the Twins couldn't afford Mauer. The same guy who claims Wakefield has been a solid member of the rotation. The only loss during the streak was a game started by Tim Wakefield. He's been a loser his entire career, which is why he's frequently left off the playoff roster and slotted to avoid the tipping point games during the season.
    Posted by betterredthandead[/QUOTE]

    Except for those 196 games where the was the winner. 

    And by the way, how is it Wakefield's fault for being the loserr in a game where the offense mustered ZERO runs of support??  Are you telling me the Sox would have won that day if Jon Lester had been pitching?

    Career loser Tim Wakefield is now 1 win behind other career losers such as Hall of Famer Dazzy Vance and Hall of Famer Dennis Eckersley.  Wakefield already has more wins than 6 Hall of Fame starting pitchers.

    The guy is just pathetic.

    By the way, has Wakefield ever actually been left off the playoff roster?  The guy has pitched in the post-season for the Red Sox in 1995, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007 and 2008.  He's pitched in 16 post-season games and made 9 post-season starts for the Red Sox.  Has any Red Sox pitcher since 1920, other than Pedro Martinez, started more post-season games for the Red Sox than Tim Wakefield has?
     
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    [QUOTE]Crawford most certianly should leadoff. He was ruined by the Red Sox incompetent Epstein by pretending he's a superstar #3 slugger. He needs to change his approach and take over the career leadoff spot. Bill Hall isn't a pretzel and Lowrie is a butcher plus no pop and weak v. RHP. Lowrie isn't capable of playing a corner OF slot, without doing belly flops. VMart should be the starting catcher along with a solid defensive catcher backup. Don't brag on Salty/Geriatrics Tek and catching and throwing the baseball. The same loser who was so embarrassed for being wrong about the Twins being able to afford Mauer, he has to lie about what Softlaw said about the details of Mauer's value. That's because you weren't able to understand why the Twins could afford him and what his value was. Wastefield and his goofball with senior naps of week long average time between starts are a wasted roster spot that should be invested in players who can see their willy.  Bellsbury should be traded "in his prime" for a better player and long term fit.  Beckett should not have been extended on opening day 2010, as his value would only go down or stay the same because he was fat and out of shape for 2010 and could have been signed for a fraction of his current contract had InEpstein simply waited for the fat man to hit the DL.  Only a feeble mind would think that the Yankee GM's and all the modern era titles were the work of a smart GM. Take a look at the butchery of Theo on Beckett's extension and all the other "sunk cost" as he likes to call him many mistakes. Add Crawford to this "sunk cost" on years of that silly contract.  As always, Moonslow, you remail a flailing bereft minded Wastefield and Lowell "insurance" apologist.
    Posted by betterredthandead[/QUOTE]

    Then he was already destroyed by the Rays, who used him as the #5 spot hitter....
     
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    Softy loves using creer numbers, but for some reason overlooks CC's poor OBP, horrible numbers vs LHPs, an even worse numbers when leading off.

     
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    Wakefield already has more wins than 6 Hall of Fame starting pitchers.

    No question that Wastefield is a better pitcher than Koufax. You make a great point. A guy with a high career ERA who pitched a lot of years gets the credit, as a guy who gives up 8 runs and wins a game has pitched quality baseball.

    Wins are the best measure of quality pitching, and the economy is recovering.
     
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    [QUOTE]Wakefield already has more wins than 6 Hall of Fame starting pitchers. No question that Wastefield is a better pitcher than Koufax. You make a great point. A guy with a high career ERA who pitched a lot of years gets the credit, as a guy who gives up 8 runs and wins a game has pitched quality baseball. Wins are the best measure of quality pitching, and the economy is recovering.
    Posted by betterredthandead[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, that is not exaclty the point as many other people clearly figured out.

    The point is that Wakefield has managed to stay in MLB long enough to have a measurable amount of success, even when compared to pitchers many regard as the games elite.  Therefore, constantly calling him "a career loser" is wildly inaccurate.

    Wakefield is not a great pitcher.  He is a decent pitcher and the best fifth option the Sox have right now, which is why he is in there.  Not every team can trot out 5 Jon Lesters, believe it or not.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: SOX against LHP this year : Yeah, that is not exaclty the point as many other people clearly figured out. The point is that Wakefield has managed to stay in MLB long enough to have a measurable amount of success, even when compared to pitchers many regard as the games elite.  Therefore, constantly calling him "a career loser" is wildly inaccurate. Wakefield is not a great pitcher.  He is a decent pitcher and the best fifth option the Sox have right now, which is why he is in there.  Not every team can trot out 5 Jon Lesters, believe it or not.
    Posted by notin[/QUOTE]

    Very true
     

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