sox aquire aviles from kc
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sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 3:24 PM EDT
- mvpyouk20
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Not sure why they traded navarro for mike aviles but i guess they know or have a reason..some guy name kendal volz went to in the trade too -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 3:31 PM EDT
- moonslav59
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More MLB experience, better range at SS (4.56 RF/9), and we will probably be getting an OF'er soon, so we don't need Navarro there. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 3:33 PM EDT
- Beantowne
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He's a middle infielder with some pop...
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=avilemi01&year=Career&t=b -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 3:37 PM EDT
- Joebreidey
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I kind of like Navarro, but like Youk said, I'm sure they know what they're doing. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 3:38 PM EDT
- tbrod
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Nice trade. This guy has ht .325 and .304 in the two seasons he played pver 100 games in. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 3:42 PM EDT
- bettersoftthanlaw
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Stupid trade. Navarro, seven years younger than Aviles, has a very good chance of being as good as Aviles and a 50/50 shot of being better. Straight up would be stupid, but we also gave away a young pitching prospect. Inepstein strikes again. The great Jed is due back soon, so no reason for another infielder. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 3:47 PM EDT
- SoxPatsCelts1988
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I don't quite get this trade. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 3:53 PM EDT
- expitch
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This trade is a break for Navarro. It was becoming apparent that, for better or worse, Boston regarded him as a utility player. I hope he has a great career elsewhere.Now what in Boston? When Lowrie returns, the club will have three shortstops, two of whom are not good fielders at the position. Is Aviles? Are we back to Theo's revolving door? If Navarro had to be moved, would it not have been better to include him in a package for a pitcher? Or what? On the surface, this trade is a little puzzling.But cheers for Navarro. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 3:56 PM EDT
- dgalehouse
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I thought it was pretty apparent that they were showcasing Navarro to the Royals , this week. Have to say that I don't quite get this deal. Aviles is okay as a backup infielder, but Navarro is younger and probably has potential to be as good as or better than Aviles. Let's see what else is coming. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 3:58 PM EDT
- SoxPatsCelts1988
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I almost wonder if something else is brewing here. This deal just seems to odd to me with Lowrie coming back. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:00 PM EDT
- chuchos
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This doesn't make much sense unless Lowrie is not coming back, or is being packaged. Or that they are not confident in him being healthy.
Either way, it doesn't make sense unless somthing else is in the works. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:02 PM EDT
- thewags
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i dont really undertsand this either. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:05 PM EDT
- craze4sox
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In Response to sox aquire aviles from kc:Not sure why they traded navarro for mike aviles but i guess they know or have a reason..some guy name kendal volz went to in the trade too
Posted by mvpyouk20
Navarro should have been given more time. Aviles is a decent hitter but a poor fielding SS and at other infield positions so I really don't get it. Plus Lowrie should be back soon. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:07 PM EDT
- hortonhearzacup
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The rockies have had interest in Lowrie for awhile I wonder if this is part of a Jimenez package -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:09 PM EDT
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It was pretty obvious that Navarro was being showcased.
Ii think it is also obvious that the Sox will not retain Aviles, Lowrie and Scutaro on the Major League roster.
I've seen it happen before where a player acquired in trade is packaged with others players almost immediatly. So we will have to see if Aviles is a player they wanted or needed to acquire someone else.
The fact that Aviles bats right leads me to believe he will stay. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:10 PM EDT
- craze4sox
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In Response to Re: sox aquire aviles from kc:The rockies have had interest in Lowrie for awhile I wonder if this is part of a Jimenez package
Posted by hortonhearzacup
That would make the deal worth it because looking at Aviles fielding Stats I would rather have Navarro who also has a better arm. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:12 PM EDT
- craze4sox
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In Response to Re: sox aquire aviles from kc:It was pretty obvious that Navarro was being showcased. Ii think it is also obvious that the Sox will not retain Aviles, Lowrie and Scutaro on the Major League roster. I've seen it happen before where a player acquired in trade is packaged with others players almost immediatly. So we will have to see if Aviles is a player they wanted or needed to acquire someone else. The fact that Aviles bats right leads me to believe he will stay.
Posted by ZILLAGOD
ZILL, Lowrie is a SWH and Scutaro already bats R -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:13 PM EDT
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I like Kuroda of the Dodgers more than Jimenez. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:18 PM EDT
- tom-uk
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"but can be prone to lapses in focus and effort." Sox prospects on Navarro and "He can be a bit aggressive at the plate and can be prone to breaking balls, but has great balance and generates good bat speed.
Aviles MLB
2008 102 games .833 OPS
2010 110 games .748 OPS
as a SS only career UZR/150 : 11.3
Maybe Theo is not sold on Navarro figuring out breaking balls while Aviles could bounce back. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:19 PM EDT
- slomag
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I hate this trade. The only scenario that makes it tolerable is if there is a trade for Hanley Ramirez brewing. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:21 PM EDT
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This trade made by Theo is an equivalent of trading a bag of Kit Kat for M&Ms. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:24 PM EDT
- promise4you
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This trade makes absolutely no sense, I am sure this is just a bad dream, we sure as heck did not need to trade away a 23 year old with potential for a 30 year old im not sure what! -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:25 PM EDT
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This is a nothing trade: Nothing is gained at all. They just dealt youth for age.
Aviles does not have better range from the infield than Navarro, nor does he have a stronger arm. They did this to get a guy who hits lefties, and his numbers are not staggeringly good; maybe not even good enough to warrant this deal.
Bizarre trade. I know they know more than us, but this is not what people were expecting. -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:26 PM EDT
- promise4you
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In Response to Re: sox aquire aviles from kc:"but can be prone to lapses in focus and effort." Sox prospects on Navarro and "He can be a bit aggressive at the plate and can be prone to breaking balls , but has great balance and generates good bat speed. Aviles MLB 2008 102 games .833 OPS 2010 110 games .748 OPS Maybe Theo is not sold on Navarro figuring out breaking balls while Aviles could bounce back.
Posted by tom-uk
Ok, I can buy that, but he has 7 more years to figure it out based on the persons age that was obtained! -
Re: sox aquire aviles from kc
posted at 7/30/2011 4:26 PM EDT
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Theo Epstein could have made this trade through the Barter section in Craigslist. lol