Sox Going After Beltran
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Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 8:52 PM EST
- stillgridlocked
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Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 9:30 PM EST
- schwank
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Well he hits from the right side. We need that. I'm in favor. -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 9:33 PM EST
- notin
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Maybe the idea is to have Beltran at DH vs RHP with Reddick in RF and Youkilis at 3B. Then vs. LHP, Beltran plays RF, Youkilis DH and Lowrie at 3B.
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Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 9:38 PM EST
- moonslav59
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Maybe the idea is to have Beltran at DH vs RHP with Reddick in RF and Youkilis at 3B. Then vs. LHP, Beltran plays RF, Youkilis DH and Lowrie at 3B.
Too complicated?
You beat me to the punch, but you forgot one scenario, what do we do when Beltran is on the DL? -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 9:44 PM EST
- stan17
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I like the idea just afraid he'll pick up where drew left of at, always on the DL.
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Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 9:52 PM EST
- GoUconn13
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How can he be on DL if he is going to DH half of these games?? Why someone mentioned Reddick will platoon with Beltran? Where is Kalish? Reddick is going to be trade!! -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 10:10 PM EST
- Thesemenarecowards
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What is the expected contract for Beltran? 8 million per? More than 2 years seems like a risky move to me. -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 10:18 PM EST
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I dont like it. 34 and on the down side. -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 10:23 PM EST
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ben, please, no
we need to get younger and hungrier, not waste money on past performance. -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 10:38 PM EST
- traven
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As a option he would be OK...stats are what the Sox need in a RH power hitter. However like most here am concerned with his DL stints and age. My guess is he is looking for one last contract and I would hate to see the Sox go out on a limb for him. -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 10:40 PM EST
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He played in 142 games last year between NY and San Francisco.He hit .300,had 39 doubles,6 triples,84 RBIs and 22 HR's.His HR total was probably affected a little by playing roughly a third of his games in the cavernous Citi Field.
His OBP was .385 and slugging .525.Pretty decent numbers all around -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 10:51 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Sox Going After Beltran:ben, please, no we need to get younger and hungrier, not waste money on past performance.
Posted by Guvnor
My sentiments exactly! -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 10:52 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Sox Going After Beltran:ben, please, no we need to get younger and hungrier, not waste money on past performance.
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Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 10:52 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Sox Going After Beltran:Maybe the idea is to have Beltran at DH vs RHP with Reddick in RF and Youkilis at 3B. Then vs. LHP, Beltran plays RF, Youkilis DH and Lowrie at 3B. Too complicated?
Posted by notin
Not complicated, just a horrible option if any Sox starting lineup has a Lowrie, Kalish or a Reddick in it. -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 10:57 PM EST
- GhostofTito
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Hellooooo! Beltran is a switch hitter. He doesn't need to platoon with Hillbilly Josh.
As for him DHing, you're assuming Papi is gone. I must've missed it. Who did he sign with?
I'm on the fence with this one. If Beltran was 32 or so, fine. He did have a good year, though.
If healthy, he's light years ahead of Reddick or Drew.
Sean McAdam mentioned Carlos Quentin as a possibility. He'd be my choice.
I like the Beurhle talk, though. He's an innings eater and a competitor. -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 11:12 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Sox Going After Beltran:Maybe the idea is to have Beltran at DH vs RHP with Reddick in RF and Youkilis at 3B. Then vs. LHP, Beltran plays RF, Youkilis DH and Lowrie at 3B. Too complicated?
Posted by notin
Any plan that expects 150+ games from Kevin Youkilis is a pipe dream. -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/8/2011 11:35 PM EST
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Boy without knowing much about it this tells me the FO is still bent on having stars in every position, old or not. This tells me that they will never put a Kalish or Iglesias in a starters position unless absolutely necessary - such as Reddick only replacing Drew because Nancy was hurt.This tells me the tactics remain the same. -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/9/2011 12:30 AM EST
- notin
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In Response to Re: Sox Going After Beltran:Hellooooo! Beltran is a switch hitter. He doesn't need to platoon with Hillbilly Josh. As for him DHing, you're assuming Papi is gone. I must've missed it. Who did he sign with? I'm on the fence with this one. If Beltran was 32 or so, fine. He did have a good year, though. If healthy, he's light years ahead of Reddick or Drew. Sean McAdam mentioned Carlos Quentin as a possibility. He'd be my choice. I like the Beurhle talk, though. He's an innings eater and a competitor.
Posted by GhostofTito
In the weird scenario outlined above, Reddick was platooning with Lowrie. Keep up. Youkilis and Beltran both would play every day.
As for Ortiz, he is a free agent. No need to assume he is gone; he is. Again, keep up. At this point, the only assumption is that he comes back... -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/9/2011 1:00 AM EST
- notin
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In Response to Re: Sox Going After Beltran:Boy without knowing much about it this tells me the FO is still bent on having stars in every position, old or not. This tells me that they will never put a Kalish or Iglesias in a starters position unless absolutely necessary - such as Reddick only replacing Drew because Nancy was hurt. This tells me the tactics remain the same.
Posted by BurritoT
Dustin Pedroia might not agree with you... -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/9/2011 1:27 AM EST
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I advocated for Beltran last summer, asking that he play RF and DH when Ortiz might be hurt or need a day. I was told that was highly illogical by some of the board brain-supremacists. Now it appears the mood of the board thinks differently.Let Ortiz walk and Beltran plays as much RF as possible, leaving the DH spot open for the likes of Beltran, Youk, and whomever needs a break. The othe roption is to play Reddick or Kalish in RF, re-sign Ortiz, and hope Youk stays healthy. -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/9/2011 2:18 AM EST
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If Karmine likes him he will be inked at all costs -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/9/2011 3:39 AM EST
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Absurd. No value in Beltran, a very old and injury ridden man. Come on Cherry, don't be InEpstein. -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/9/2011 5:12 AM EST
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i agree, good pick up last summer for the short term.... but not now -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/9/2011 7:17 AM EST
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In Response to Re: Sox Going After Beltran:I advocated for Beltran last summer, asking that he play RF and DH when Ortiz might be hurt or need a day. I was told that was highly illogical by some of the board brain-supremacists . Now it appears the mood of the board thinks differently. Let Ortiz walk and Beltran plays as much RF as possible, leaving the DH spot open for the likes of Beltran, Youk, and whomever needs a break. The othe roption is to play Reddick or Kalish in RF, re-sign Ortiz, and hope Youk stays healthy.
Posted by BurritoT
That is exactly right!! Boston isnt going to sign both Beltran and Papi. I just do think the front management rather to deal with Papi cuz they stated that they wanted him back. If no deal is in place between two parties, then Boston will go after Beltran. But if Beltran signs elsewhere, then Boston will go to plan C.
Right now, it is seem that Boston may not even make any blockbuster trade. Cuz these teams are probably asking too much from Boston, and Boston know they now wont take Lar Anderson, Bowen, Reddick, etc. These teams rather to have Middlebrook, Lavanway, Rouaton, Kalish, etc.
Well, the winter meeting seem that it havent begin yet. So therefore, I guess it is going to be a long winter season for everyone!! -
Re: Sox Going After Beltran
posted at 11/9/2011 7:29 AM EST
- jackyldo
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As a piece of the 2012 picture --OK but if this is the main signing with the "hope" that he produces big time might be a stretch.