Sox possible pitching moves.

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      BECKETT MUST GO......  OVERRATED,OVERPAID, FAT & OUT OF SHAPE !!!
     
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    Sox possible pitching moves.

    Stay in the bidding to keep CC Sab interested in the Sox while working on a left/ right combo of CJ and Edwin Jackson as your 2/3 starters to go with Lester and Buch as #1 and #4. If CC accepts the offer from the Sox--we are a better staff, either way and the Yanks are weaker. 

    Then either keep Beckett as your #5 or package him to the Nationals along with Reddick or Kalish for Jason Werth and a pitcher.
     
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    [QUOTE]  BECKETT MUST GO......  OVERRATED,OVERPAID, FAT & OUT OF SHAPE !!!
    Posted by Bill-806[/QUOTE]

    What sane person would trade someone with Beckett's qualifications, stats, etc. - and you would trade him for ??????  You probably have been a Beckett hater from the get-go, and have a short memory of all that he has done this past year. 
     
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    Move Aceves to the rotation, re-up Bedard, spend good money on bullpen.
     
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    Youre right that it is ridiculous...someone isnt doing their math homework. Boston probably only have around 55 something million dollars to spend plus approximately over 30% of the 55 something million dollars will go toward to the abritration cases as well Boston just recently picked up Scutaro's option.

    It is more likely Boston will have approximately 30 something million dollars left to spend.  If you want to sign Ramieriz, CC, trade for Werth, etc.  That is approximately over 50 million dollars, and someone from Boston got to go such as to trade Ellsbury or Youkilis, or refuse to sign Papi/Papelbon, etc.

    It is not going to happen.  There will be couple teams that will offer more money to Rameriz, Wilson, and CC as well for Papelbon.  Boston are not going to be the highest offer for every single free agent including CC if he opt out.


     
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    This is ridiculous. You actually think they will give long term large contracts to CJ Wilson and CC? And then spend 10+ million a yr for E Jackson? This isnt fantasy baseball. And then they trade for another HUGE contract in Jason Werth?
     
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    [QUOTE]Stay in the bidding to keep CC Sab interested in the Sox while working on a left/ right combo of CJ and Edwin Jackson as your 2/3 starters to go with Lester and Buch as #1 and #4. If CC accepts the offer from the Sox--we are a better staff, either way and the Yanks are weaker.  Then either keep Beckett as your #5 or package him to the Nationals along with Reddick or Kalish for Jason Werth and a pitcher.
    Posted by MadMc44[/QUOTE]

    So getting another overpaid outfielder like Jason Werth to join Carl Crawford is a good move? I'd rather have Michael Cuddyer who will cost near half of what Jason Werth costs.
     
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    If you look at Bedard and the fact he has not been healthy last  3 years     and still sign him  then  you get what you ask for.

    Keep Beckett and stress to him     these next  2 years decide  if he  is a great pitching career  or just another flame out.  .. I think he'll  do better in 2012..
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sox possible pitching moves. : What sane person would trade someone with Beckett's qualifications, stats, etc. - and you would trade him for ??????  You probably have been a Beckett hater from the get-go, and have a short memory of all that he has done this past year. 
    Posted by carolgolds[/QUOTE]

    I agree with you that trading Beckett would be a mistake.   The Red Sox need to add to their pitching depth for next year not trade away one of their best pitchers. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Move Aceves to the rotation, re-up Bedard, spend good money on bullpen.
    Posted by SpacemanEephus[/QUOTE]

    Yes, Space!  I am good with Beckett, Buckholtz, Lester, Aceves and Bedard.  Outstanding rotation and good enough to get us to playoffs next season, IMO.  We can and will hit.

    For the pen, I would like Pap back on a three year deal.  Bard is a keeper and I would bring back Dan Wheeler also.  We need some lefty bullpen help, however, and I do know that the Os are laoded with them and several of their lefty relievers looked good against us in the last few weeks of the season.  Maybe we can do something there or elsewhere.

    Thoughts on a lefty relief pitcher?
     
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    I think Beuhrle and bard make a great 4 and 5 . Bell ,jenks and lidge or capps make nice end of the the bullpen  Beuhrle is an innings eater that will not require a million dollars and Bard could be a young stud if he can refine his change.

     
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    Think many of you are missing the point since the FO seems to be in love with Beckett...he is not going anywhere.  Secondly the FO has made it clear that for the coming year the policy is cheap...cheap...cheap and no FA signings of significance.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sox possible pitching moves. : What sane person would trade someone with Beckett's qualifications, stats, etc. - and you would trade him for ??????  You probably have been a Beckett hater from the get-go, and have a short memory of all that he has done this past year. 
    Posted by carolgolds[/QUOTE]Golds calm down! If Beckett can be traded for a decent pitcher i would do it in a heart beat. Problem is no one wants him at least not for anyone 1/2 way acceptable. I think he is a cancer in the clubhouse and will never change his ways. McKennon was having probs with him 10 years ago.!
     
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    [QUOTE]Someone would trade Beckett for Werth and a Pitcher to the Nats. Cj from texas had an ERA of 2.94 and Beckett was 2.89 Beckett had a WHIP of 1.03 and CJ was 1.19. CJ was 221 IP and 193 hits. Beckett was 193 IP and 146 hits. Also CJ was 0-3 in his last 6 starts, including a not very good Post season. Also Beckett was MVP of the World Series for the Marlins, including 2 shutouts of the Yankees, don't put any stock in Jack Mckeon's comments. He was always criticizing Marlins players this year, quite common in our local Fla. press.
    Posted by Teach7719[/QUOTE]
    Josh Beckett was 1-2 with a 5.48 ERA in four September starts and has an ERA of 7.71 in his last four postseason starts.

    The lesson to be learned: Don't rely on small samples.
     
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    Someone would trade Beckett for Werth and a Pitcher to the Nats. Cj from texas had an ERA of 2.94 and Beckett was 2.89 Beckett had a WHIP of 1.03 and CJ was 1.19. CJ was 221 IP and 193 hits. Beckett was 193 IP and 146 hits. Also CJ was 0-3 in his last 6 starts, including a not very good Post season. Also Beckett was MVP of the World Series for the Marlins, including 2 shutouts of the Yankees, don't put any stock in Jack Mckeon's comments. He was always criticizing Marlins players this year, quite common in our local Fla. press.
     
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    [QUOTE]  BECKETT MUST GO......  OVERRATED,OVERPAID, FAT & OUT OF SHAPE !!!
    Posted by Bill-806[/QUOTE]

    You are officially not in charge of Marketing Josh Beckett in any potential trade. 

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sox possible pitching moves. : Golds calm down! If Beckett can be traded for a decent pitcher i would do it in a heart beat. Problem is no one wants him at least not for anyone 1/2 way acceptable. I think he is a cancer in the clubhouse and will never change his ways. McKennon was having probs with him 10 years ago.!
    Posted by maxnsl[/QUOTE]B I N G O !!!!   THANK YOU ....
     
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    [QUOTE]Move Aceves to the rotation, re-up Bedard, spend good money on bullpen.
    Posted by SpacemanEephus[/QUOTE]

    Re-up Bedard? an often injured pitcher who can not pitch for a big market team.
    He's not worth the risk of $3M a year. And what did he show in Boston? How many times did he go over 5 innings?
     
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    [QUOTE]If you look at Bedard and the fact he has not been healthy last  3 years     and still sign him  then  you get what you ask for. Keep Beckett and stress to him     these next  2 years decide  if he  is a great pitching career  or just another flame out.  .. I think he'll  do better in 2012..
    Posted by jackyldo[/QUOTE]

    Bedard will not be signed by the Red Sox. He's always injured and he can't pitch under pressure or more than 5 innings.
     
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    "Secondly the FO has made it clear that for the coming year the policy is cheap...cheap...cheap and no FA signings of significance."


    What's that based on??
     
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    It will be interesting and it's all based on perception.  Had they 2-3 more games either at the start of the season, maybe this doesn't come up.  I still think they need legitmate RH power in that lineup.

     
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    Trading Beckett would be a mistake! Managing personalities is why a manager get paid, Francona paid for not being able to do that. Coming back to the pitchers, they should keep Beckett and Lester but keep Bucholz on the trading block if they can get a pitcher like Felix in return. They need an Ace, someone like Felix, CC, Halladay...Redsox can not afford to lose Beckett.
     
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    Cherington looking for low cost pitching moves.  
     
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    There's been speculation all over the board about trading Ells for pitching, mostly King Felix. Not sure if I agree with trading a strong position player for a once every five day player but if you could put something together with San Fran or Cincin or the Rangers for one of their young starters a prospect would that interest people? Let's say Cain or Baumgarter, Cueto or Chapman, Feliz or Texas' best lefty.
    If you are going to get something of real value for Ells this is the time.
     
     

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