Sox Prospects New Top Prospects List

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    I wonder if Oakland values Lava highly.




    You really want Anderson, dont you?

     
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    I wonder if Oakland values Lava highly.




    You really want Anderson, dont you?



    I think moon may have brought that up due to the D Ross signing. You have to figure one of the catchers is on the block. I'd prefer to see Salty dealt as he's in his last arb year and I still believe in Lavarnaway's bat.

     
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    I wonder if Oakland values Lava highly.




    You really want Anderson, dont you?



    I think moon may have brought that up due to the D Ross signing. You have to figure one of the catchers is on the block. I'd prefer to see Salty dealt as he's in his last arb year and I still believe in Lavarnaway's bat.



    The more I read about Anderson, yes, I really see him as the number one target, as do many GMs.

    I think Salty is the likely catcher to be traded this winter, but his contract is too much for Oakland. I suppose we could pay part of his deal, but they may want a more longterm catching option (Lava or Swihart). Perhaps, we could extend Salty and then trade him, but his cost will be too high for the A's liking.

     
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    I wonder if Oakland values Lava highly.




    You really want Anderson, dont you?



    I think moon may have brought that up due to the D Ross signing. You have to figure one of the catchers is on the block. I'd prefer to see Salty dealt as he's in his last arb year and I still believe in Lavarnaway's bat.



    The more I read about Anderson, yes, I really see him as the number one target, as do many GMs.

    I think Salty is the likely catcher to be traded this winter, but his contract is too much for Oakland. I suppose we could pay part of his deal, but they may want a more longterm catching option (Lava or Swihart). Perhaps, we could extend Salty and then trade him, but his cost will be too high for the A's liking.




    so youd be in favor of dealing lava in a package for anderson? then maybe we deal salty for prospects to be used in a deal and sign napoli to platoon with ross at C and play 1st base

     
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    I don't want Napoli. I think Salty is better and way cheaper. 

    If we trade Lava, I'd look to try and extend Salty. 

    I could also see trading both Salty and Lava and go with my idea to trade Ellsbury and Butler for Sergio Romo and Hector Sanchez. (If we have to throw in a mid level prospect like Vinicio or Lin, then fine.)

     
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    I don't want Napoli. I think Salty is better and way cheaper. 

    If we trade Lava, I'd look to try and extend Salty. 

    I could also see trading both Salty and Lava and go with my idea to trade Ellsbury and Butler for Sergio Romo and Hector Sanchez. (If we have to throw in a mid level prospect like Vinicio or Lin, then fine.)




    Well, I dont see Lav as the "catcher of the future" like some do here. I think Swihart or Vasquez have a much better shot at it, but are at least 2 more years away. Not before 2015.

    Lav has a great bat and I think we are missing out on that because hes behind the plate. The Sox want both from him and Im not sure hes ever going to be a great defensive catcher.

    Id keep him, but give him a 1b mit and send him to AAA to start the season. Big 6'4 230LB 1b smacking 30Hr with a high OBP and SLG. Get a stop gap for a year.

    I do like Salty, but if we can get something for him, then I guess they should do it.

    Although I would keep Butler and platoon him with Ross. Both are solid defensively and both have a little pop in their bat.

     
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    Good for Lin. I hope he gets some regular playing time somewhere. Hoiuston is the perfect place for that. theyre gonna love his arm and defense.

     
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    Oct. 26, 2012

    The Houston Astros have claimed outfielder Che-Hsuan Lin off waivers, the team announced Friday, designating pitcher Enerio Del Rosario for assignment to clear space on the 40-man roster.

    Lin, who is known more for his defensive prowess in the outfield than for his bat, hit .247/.323/.316 in 445 plate appearances with 15 stolen bases for Triple-A Pawtucket this season.

    Lin also played in nine games for the Red Sox this year, collecting three singles and a run in 12 plate appearances.




    The Lin I mentioned in my trade proposal was 18 year old Tzu-Wei Lin (SS).

     
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    I wonder if Oakland values Lava highly.




    You really want Anderson, dont you?



    I think moon may have brought that up due to the D Ross signing. You have to figure one of the catchers is on the block. I'd prefer to see Salty dealt as he's in his last arb year and I still believe in Lavarnaway's bat.




    I believe in Lavs bat to carnie. Just not his catching ability long term.

     
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    Lava's got as good arm and is probably pretty smart, but he does look a bit stiff out there. I just don't see us moving Lava at this point, until we know for sure he can't catch well enough.

     
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    Lava's got as good arm and is probably pretty smart, but he does look a bit stiff out there. I just don't see us moving Lava at this point, until we know for sure he can't catch well enough.




    Most scouts have said, and are still saying after seeing him this year, that his lack of athleticism will stop him from being an everyday catcher..

     
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    Lava's got as good arm and is probably pretty smart, but he does look a bit stiff out there. I just don't see us moving Lava at this point, until we know for sure he can't catch well enough.




    Most scouts have said, and are still saying after seeing him this year, that his lack of athleticism will stop him from being an everyday catcher..



    I do think he projects as a DH/back-up catcher, which might work for us after Papi retires before 2015. Since he hits LHPs better, he'd only platoon for about 55-65 games a year at catcher.

    He may end up ast 1B if he proves he can hit ML pitching close to how he did in the minors, but I don't see him helping us at 1B in 2013 or 2014.

     
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    Lava's got as good arm and is probably pretty smart, but he does look a bit stiff out there. I just don't see us moving Lava at this point, until we know for sure he can't catch well enough.




    Most scouts have said, and are still saying after seeing him this year, that his lack of athleticism will stop him from being an everyday catcher..



    I do think he projects as a DH/back-up catcher, which might work for us after Papi retires before 2015. Since he hits LHPs better, he'd only platoon for about 55-65 games a year at catcher.

    He may end up ast 1B if he proves he can hit ML pitching close to how he did in the minors, but I don't see him helping us at 1B in 2013 or 2014.




    Thats probably why they said Ross will play more than a buckup but less than a ft starter. Lav will get enough time to develop (2 years, papi and Ross deals) to see if he can develop. I think theyre hoping one of the kids (Swihart/Vasquez) or someone else if these guys arent ready yet, can step in and either take over or platoon with lav or another backstop if they move Lav off catching...

     

     
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    Haven't heard much on any offers for Salty or Lava thus far.

     
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    Haven't heard much on any offers for Salty or Lava thus far.




    Nope, not even a whisper. Some talks on forums about Theo taking Salty back, but thats just fan talk.

     
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    It's early yet...

     
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    It's early yet...




    Im sure we'll here all sorts of rumors in a couple weeks at the winter meeting.

     
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    I have a hunch something may happen earlier.

     
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    I have a hunch something may happen earlier.




    Some here are all up in arms that the Jays made a move and the Sox didnt. The Sox were in on JJ and Reyes from all reports, but werent willing to part with the prospects the Jays were.

    I hope BC doesnt make a reactionary move like a few here would like him to just to counter what the jays did. he needs to just stick to his plan and not worry what they just did.

     
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    It's funny. We're barely 2 weeks into November and already people are bashing Ben for not having his outfield and rotation set. All I can say is I'm glad they're not running the Red Sox. Ben really needs to be patient this off season and get good value in any deals he makes. That won't happen if he grabs the first deal that comes along, whether it's trades or free agency. I think over the long haul the Jays get the worst of this deal. Red Sox fans should know from experience that the Marlins are going to get very good prospects (Ramirez, Sanchez) when they deal a ML starting pitcher. And call me a knucklehead, but I've never liked Josh Johnson that much.

     
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    I'm glad we passed on the Marlin rejects.

     
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    I'm glad we passed on the Marlin rejects.




    Toronto saw that the NYY are aging, the Sox are in trouble, the rays have no offense and the O's were fairly lucky last year. Now was the perfect time for them to go for it.

     
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    I'm glad we passed on the Marlin rejects.


    Those "Marlin rejects" posted the following WAR in Miami's down year: Jose Reyes 4.5, Josh Johnson 3.8, Mark Buehrle 2.1, John Buck 1.2 and Emilio Bonifacio 0.6.

    The Red Sox "rejects" posted the following WAR in 2012: Adrian Gonzalez 3.6, Josh Beckett 2.3, Nick Punto 0.5 and Carl Crawford 0.4.

    I'm not saying the Red Sox should have pursued the Miami package, but the players were hardly rejects.

     
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