1. You have chosen to ignore posts from bingobilly. Show bingobilly's posts

    Sox "Rebuild..."

    If early indications are an image of the future, the RS have chosen to bilk the fans, go the cheap route and pocket the green!

     

     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from traven. Show traven's posts

    Re: Sox

    That's exactly why you have to reserve judgement until April and quit complaining because they haven't won the 2013 WS yet.  Plenty of time to pass judgement come April.

     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from garyhow. Show garyhow's posts

    Re: Sox

    In response to bingobilly's comment:
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    If early indications are an image of the future, the RS have chosen to bilk the fans, go the cheap route and pocket the green!

     

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    Well if after spending all the money in the winters of 09-10 [Lackey / Jenks / Crawford / Agon] and that got us a Sept 2011 collapse and 69 wins in 2012. I'm all for rebuilding from within and adding a piece here and there to get us over the top [Schilling in 07] Just look at teams winning WS lately or competing for them [Cards / Giants / Reds / Rays] are all built from within. The Cards lose Pujols to Angels in FA and Cards are back playing in LCS while Halos after spending all the $ for Pujols and CJ Wilson are home watching playoffs sounds just like RS in 2011. Mets spend all that $ on Santana/Bay how x's have they made playoffs w/ Omar's big spending ways. If Yanks hadn't developed Jeter/Bernie/Petitte/Posada/Mo from within, think they would have won any WS by just trying to buy one. I'm all for building a team from within and if you need to move a prospect to get final piece then I'm all for it.

     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from notin. Show notin's posts

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    In response to bingobilly's comment:
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    If early indications are an image of the future, the RS have chosen to bilk the fans, go the cheap route and pocket the green!

     

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    Which is obviously true for every team in MLB at this point...

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from Bill-806. Show Bill-806's posts

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    "REDISTRIBUTE"  !!!!!!!!

     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from jgallag1. Show jgallag1's posts

    Re: Sox

    They're not looking to buy the best players, they're looking to go get the right pieces. Napoli is a Big right handed bat who can fill the 1B slot. It's a position of need, and the perfect piece to fill into the Sox current lineup. They've had hitting, but since Manny, they haven't had a right handed power threat. Putting Napoli in the 4 spot should help Papi to be even more productive. It will also keep the other right handed bats like Pedroia and Middlebrooks from swinging for the fences like Youk started to.

     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from Joebreidey. Show Joebreidey's posts

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    In response to bingobilly's comment:
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    If early indications are an image of the future, the RS have chosen to bilk the fans, go the cheap route and pocket the green!

     

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    Whiner.

     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from Soxdog67. Show Soxdog67's posts

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    In response to bingobilly's comment:
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    If early indications are an image of the future, the RS have chosen to bilk the fans, go the cheap route and pocket the green!

     

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    Looks like billy missed getting bingo on this one...

    The players in the FA market this offseason are not worthy of long-term investment, due to their individual risks...but hey if Hamilton and Greinke want to sign short term deals for overmarket prices I'd bet the Sox would be right in on the talks.

     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from bigdog1. Show bigdog1's posts

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    I agree this FA market is not that good.  Why not fills some holes short term and see what our propects can do.  The biggest thing we don't want to have is spend money on player's who are not worth the money.  BE PATIENT!!!!

     
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    If early indications are an image of the future, the RS have chosen to bilk the fans, go the cheap route and pocket the green!

     

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    Patience. 

     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from southpaw777. Show southpaw777's posts

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    another premature judgement...

     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from carnie. Show carnie's posts

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    Another whining crybaby more like.

     
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    In response to bingobilly's comment:
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    If early indications are an image of the future, the RS have chosen to bilk the fans, go the cheap route and pocket the green!

     

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    The RS are doing what they believe is right. You may not see or believe or agree with it. However they are not bilking anyone out of anything at least not unless you let them.

    if you do not agree and still pay to watch then they are not bilking you. You are being foolish with your own money for paying for something that you so disagree with.

     
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    If the Sox were committed to winning, they'd sign ellsbury.

    Signing Gomes and Napoli is like the dark days - when they would sign guys like Billy Hatcher.

    The organization is in MAJOR trouble. 

     
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    In response to Schumpeters-Ghost's comment:
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    If the Sox were committed to winning, they'd sign ellsbury.

    Signing Gomes and Napoli is like the dark days - when they would sign guys like Billy Hatcher.

    The organization is in MAJOR trouble. 

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    Dark days - now that is funny.

    Just to recap, the 2011 and 2012 teams both started the season with payrolls of $170 million plus, and the 2013 season doesn't start for more than 4 months.

     
  17. You have chosen to ignore posts from JimfromFlorida. Show JimfromFlorida's posts

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    In response to Schumpeters-Ghost's comment:
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    If the Sox were committed to winning, they'd sign ellsbury.

    Signing Gomes and Napoli is like the dark days - when they would sign guys like Billy Hatcher.

    The organization is in MAJOR trouble. 

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    To sign Jake now they would over pay and Boras is not about to let him skip being a FA.

     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from Hingham Hammer. Show Hingham Hammer's posts

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    In response to Schumpeters-Ghost's comment:
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    If the Sox were committed to winning, they'd sign ellsbury.

    Signing Gomes and Napoli is like the dark days - when they would sign guys like Billy Hatcher.

    The organization is in MAJOR trouble. 

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    Dark days - now that is funny.

    Just to recap, the 2011 and 2012 teams both started the season with payrolls of $170 million plus, and the 2013 season doesn't start for more than 4 months.

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             Very well said.

             I prefer to wait and see what's on the field next April.

             I believe it will be highly competitive.

              These guys appear to be related to Alibiike.

     
  19. You have chosen to ignore posts from dgalehouse. Show dgalehouse's posts

    Re: Sox

    I have to feel that there is a big move coming soon.  The Sox cannot just continue to sign mediocrities while waiting for the minor league prospects to develop.   That is not going to work.  Something big has to happen.  Either through free agency or trades.  

     
  20. You have chosen to ignore posts from bingobilly. Show bingobilly's posts

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    To those who have been hoodwinked by this RS organization.  I think they call that "die hard..." or maybe it's "fools gold..."

     

     
  21. You have chosen to ignore posts from Alibiike. Show Alibiike's posts

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    In response to jgallag1's comment:
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    They're not looking to buy the best players, they're looking to go get the right pieces. Napoli is a Big right handed bat who can fill the 1B slot. It's a position of need, and the perfect piece to fill into the Sox current lineup. They've had hitting, but since Manny, they haven't had a right handed power threat. Putting Napoli in the 4 spot should help Papi to be even more productive. It will also keep the other right handed bats like Pedroia and Middlebrooks from swinging for the fences like Youk started to.

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    You forgot about Bay, who hit 39 HRs for the Sox and drove in 119. I guess that wasn't good enough though.

     
  22. You have chosen to ignore posts from georom4. Show georom4's posts

    Re: Sox

    To some extent you do have to wait until March at least to see how the hot stove shaped up - ben didnt do much last year for obvious reasons relating to payroll....but unless he has a plan to get King Felix, I would sign grienke right now....this sends a message to not only the fans, but the other sox pitchers and possible free agents who could be enticed by a positive signing like that...Salty will be shipped out sadly based on the other catcher signings....no other catcher would fetch anything good in return imo....that could be the one move that defines ben's GM skills.....he doesnt seem so inclined on signing anyone huge

    Napoli is better than nothing but unless we straighten out our pitching staff (which is why Im not against Farrell hiring) then it will be a long season for us, and a short GM tenure for Ben.

     
  23. You have chosen to ignore posts from georom4. Show georom4's posts

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    In response to Alibiike's comment:
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    In response to jgallag1's comment:
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    They're not looking to buy the best players, they're looking to go get the right pieces. Napoli is a Big right handed bat who can fill the 1B slot. It's a position of need, and the perfect piece to fill into the Sox current lineup. They've had hitting, but since Manny, they haven't had a right handed power threat. Putting Napoli in the 4 spot should help Papi to be even more productive. It will also keep the other right handed bats like Pedroia and Middlebrooks from swinging for the fences like Youk started to.


    You forgot about Bay, who hit 39 HRs for the Sox and drove in 119. I guess that wasn't good enough though.

    [/QUOTE]didnt VMart jack a few righty as well?


     
  24. You have chosen to ignore posts from MadMc44. Show MadMc44's posts

    Re: Sox

    Giancarlo Stanton, LoMo, and Nolasco for Brentz, JBJ, Barnes, Owens, Sands, Aceves and Ciriaco.

    If that doesn't work for the Marlins--make the same offer to the Twins for Mauer, Morneau and a SS prospect.

     
  25. You have chosen to ignore posts from SpacemanEephus. Show SpacemanEephus's posts

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    In response to MadMc44's comment:
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    Giancarlo Stanton, LoMo, and Nolasco for Brentz, JBJ, Barnes, Owens, Sands, Aceves and Ciriaco.

    If that doesn't work for the Marlins--make the same offer to the Twins for Mauer, Morneau and a SS prospect.

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    Your hypothetical Marlins deal is interesting.  A lot to give up, but certainly I consider this, as Stanton would beat the Monster into submission and pitching is pitching is pitching.  The Twins one doesn't make sense because it would be foolhearty to take on 2 expensive first-basemen.

     
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