Sox Should Not Trade Prospects

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    Sox Should Not Trade Prospects

         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.

     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.

    Agree, however I would move Middlebrooks in the right deal in a heartbeat !!

     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.

     

    Agree, however I would move Middlebrooks in the right deal in a heartbeat !!

     




    You would be selling very low on him, unless you could find a GM that sees the potential and is willing to pay for that value.

    Probably best to keep him while hes still cheap and see if he can improve.

    In the end, it always depends on the players involved.

     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.

    Agree, however I would move Middlebrooks in the right deal in a heartbeat !!



         Who would you guys want in return for Middlebrooks? Despite his woes this season, I'd hate to see him go. He had such a promising start in the Bigs last year...and the Sox need a third basemen, unless they plan to play Bogaerts there.

     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.




    Can we trade some fans instead? Wink

     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.

     

    Agree, however I would move Middlebrooks in the right deal in a heartbeat !!



         Who would you guys want in return for Middlebrooks? Despite his woes this season, I'd hate to see him go. He had such a promising start in the Bigs last year...and the Sox need a third basemen, unless they plan to play Bogaerts there.

     




    Id like them to work with Middy and at least bring his value up. They would be selling extremely low on him and I just dont think its worth it IMO.

    We have WMB, Bogey, and Cecchini who can all play on the team at either 1b/3b/LF. I wouldnt trade any of them right now.

    Unless you were offered the Moon, then maybe one of them. But it would have to be a "blow you out of the water" type deal. I dont see that happening.

     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.

     




    Can we trade some fans instead? Wink

     

    we'll miss you...Tongue Out

     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.

     

     




    Can we trade some fans instead? Wink

     

     

     

    we'll miss you...Tongue Out

     




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    J-Lo :-)

     

         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.

     

     




    Can we trade some fans instead? Wink

     

     

     

    we'll miss you...Tongue Out

     




     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.

     

     




    Can we trade some fans instead? Wink

     

     

     

    we'll miss you...Tongue Out

     




    LOL!

    Bastid...

     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.



    How is the team with the most wins in baseball toast? They lost 3 relievers and already replaced one. Is it unreasonable to pick one decent arm? The team has gone too far to not give its player a far chance.

     
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    If, by "This season is what it is," you mean that we have the best record in the AL and should be thinking about how to go deep into October, then I agree. The Red Sox have kept on winning in June and July without Buchholz, and the rest of the rotation has held up well (especially if Lester can build on his strong start last time and turn a corner), so I disagree that we should just stand pat in his absence. We're in a legitimate pennant race for the first time in 2 years and I would like to see this team go for it while still keeping their core of prospects intact.

    I'd say absolutely no Bogaerts, no Bradley, no Cecchini/Webster/Owens if you can possibly avoid it...but if you had to include someone like Ranaudo as part of a deal for a Jake Peavy (just an example - I have no idea what Chicago's asking price is), I think you pull the trigger.

     
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    If, by "This season is what it is," you mean that we have the best record in the AL and should be thinking about how to go deep into October, then I agree. The Red Sox have kept on winning in June and July without Buchholz, and the rest of the rotation has held up well (especially if Lester can build on his strong start last time and turn a corner), so I disagree that we should just stand pat in his absence. We're in a legitimate pennant race for the first time in 2 years and I would like to see this team go for it while still keeping their core of prospects intact.

    I'd say absolutely no Bogaerts, no Bradley, no Cecchini/Webster/Owens if you can possibly avoid it...but if you had to include someone like Ranaudo as part of a deal for a Jake Peavy (just an example - I have no idea what Chicago's asking price is), I think you pull the trigger.




    I think they have a group of prospects marked "untouchable" and a group that can be had for the right return, but it will have to make sense for the short, and longer term outlook.

     
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    Agree, however I would move Middlebrooks in the right deal in a heartbeat !!



    Middlebrooks is still young and is similar to Chris Davis when he played for the Rangers. Napoli isn't the long term answer at 1B. Middlebrooks could fill that spot if given the chance.


    Here's how I see the Red Sox infield in a couple of years (next year?)...

    1B Middlebrooks

    2B Pedroia

    SS/3B Bogaerts

    3B/SS Inglesias

     

     
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    I agree to an extent. I would not trade Bogaerts, Middlebrooks, Cecchini, Rubby, Webster, JBJ, etc. Unless we are getting back a long term asset, I would not trade the top prospects. 

    However, the Sox are facing a roster crunch for the 40-man this coming season. So I would be open to moving some of our lesser, yet still valuable prospects (de la Cruz, Hazelbaker, Butler etc)

    Talk of Middlebrooks for Peavy is laughable. If we are targeting White Sox pitchers because they are selling/Nieves familiarity with them...then ask if they want to swap Sale for Middlebrooks. A nice, fair, young for young trade. 

     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.

    I agree that the Sox should hold onto their prospects, but I have thought this all along.  The team is going through a rough patch, against some opponents who happen to be red hot.  It happens to even the best teams.

    IMO, the Sox are still very much in contention, but even with my opinion, I am not for trading top prospects to try to add a "key" piece.

    A couple more moves like the one for Thornton or like the Yankees just made for Soriano is what I think Ben should do.

     

     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.



    Totally agree, unless some team makes you a ridiculous offer sit tight, 

     
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    I agree to an extent. I would not trade Bogaerts, Middlebrooks, Cecchini, Rubby, Webster, JBJ, etc. Unless we are getting back a long term asset, I would not trade the top prospects. 

    However, the Sox are facing a roster crunch for the 40-man this coming season. So I would be open to moving some of our lesser, yet still valuable prospects (de la Cruz, Hazelbaker, Butler etc)

    Talk of Middlebrooks for Peavy is laughable. If we are targeting White Sox pitchers because they are selling/Nieves familiarity with them...then ask if they want to swap Sale for Middlebrooks. A nice, fair, young for young trade. 



    Do you seriously think all it would take to get Sale is Middlebrooks? Chicago would laugh in our faces.  

     
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    I agree to an extent. I would not trade Bogaerts, Middlebrooks, Cecchini, Rubby, Webster, JBJ, etc. Unless we are getting back a long term asset, I would not trade the top prospects. 

    However, the Sox are facing a roster crunch for the 40-man this coming season. So I would be open to moving some of our lesser, yet still valuable prospects (de la Cruz, Hazelbaker, Butler etc)

    Talk of Middlebrooks for Peavy is laughable. If we are targeting White Sox pitchers because they are selling/Nieves familiarity with them...then ask if they want to swap Sale for Middlebrooks. A nice, fair, young for young trade. 



    you would swap Sale for Middy but you won't trade Jacoby for 2 all-stars in Hunter Pence and Mike Cuddyer? for shaaame.

     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.



    Totally agree, unless some team makes you a ridiculous offer sit tight, 



         Let's hope that Sox management doesn't panic.

     

     
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    it all depends who we can get....i would trade prospects..but for who..if we can get lee...you damned right i would..peavy i would but for who?

     
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         This season is what it is. Unfortunately, the Sox have suffered a ton of injuries to their pitching staff. Without a healthy Clay Buchholtz, the Sox are toast, no matter who they might acquire through trade. If they can add a decent relief pitcher for a song, fine. Otherwise, they are much better off holding onto their prospects, and making due with what they have.



    I agree 110%! If Breakholtz decides he wants to pitch and does so effectively despite his pain we could still make the playoffs. If not, there is not a single reasonably priced game changing pitcher out there for us to get. I refuse to blame injuries; they happen to everyone. Without Breakholtz we are not likely to even make the playoffs, let alone go deep into them.

     
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    There are certain prospects I dont move at all. There are a few that I move for the right deal that make a lot of sense for the Now and the future. I dont like the high risk deals like Jake Peavy.

     
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    There are certain prospects I dont move at all. There are a few that I move for the right deal that make a lot of sense for the Now and the future. I dont like the high risk deals like Jake Peavy.



    i understand what you are saying...but for me..i think peavy would help this team so much..on and off...solid club house guy also..i don't know maybe it's just me...but i always liked the guy solid pither.

     
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