Re: Sox Sign Drew
posted at 12/18/2012 4:38 PM EST
In response to tom-uk's comment:
Thinking that the moves were made for only business reasons (and not baseball reasons) is a conspiracy theory. Ben wants to win, his job depends on it. John Henry does not own the Sox for profitability alone. If he did, he would have sold at a high point. They are making moves primarily for baseball reasons w/ a slight consideration towards business. The focus is primarily on baseball. Not marketing, TV revenue...
((((((( "As for purchasing Liverpool FC, a franchise with uncanny parallels to the Red Sox, he writes, "We've driven revenues as far as baseball will allow, and here was an opportunity to compete globally in a league without borders."
A handful of Myers fizzle every year.
(((((((((Minor League Player of the Year. Here are the last 10 non-pitchers who won that award: Mike Trout, Jason Heyward, Matt Wieters,Jay Bruce, Alex Gordon,Delmon Young, Joe Mauer,Rocco Baldelli, Eric Chavez, Paul Konerko. Oh, and the previous five awards? Andruw Jonestwice, Derek Jeter, Manny Ramirez, and Tim Salmon.))))
Ben doesnt believe that we should trade away our core for a handful of guys who may help in 2015. Most prospects become fourth outfielders and middle revlievers*
((((That prospects fail is why you need as many as possible (Lester, Ells, and Papi should have been turned into prospects. PROSPECTS are the only way a team will compete with the new CBA. We all need to wake up to the new reality. Are Mets fans glad they held on to there marquee players for four straight poor seasons???)))
We dont need to have 1 MLB ready prospect at every position waiting to take over when teh current starters become expensive. Some teams (Padres, Twins, Pirates) have to operate like this. However, we do not. Ah, the luxuries of being a big market team :))
((((( Who cares!!! The Sox finish 70 - 92 instead of winning 85 games in 2013. Probably poor in 2014 too, but then the Sox will be in much better position with more prospects in the fold.
That is why I'm less bothered by Drew, at least he could pull a Beltre and create a compensation pick.
I listned to almost every pitch from 1980 to '85 on a very fuzzy radio of the Sox finishing 5th 5th 3rd 6th 4th 5th and loved every minute and it made MOST of 1986 all the more enjoyable.)))
You dont know that about 2015. If stockpiling prospects is a sure fire recipe for success three years down the road, then how come teams who employ your strategy go through 10 yr + long drouts (Padres, Pirates...)... Trading everything of value for prospects is the EXACT strategy that these teams employ. Expecting different results is foolish.
The teams that are competitive year in / year out arent teams that rely exclusively on prospects. They are teams that use all avenues to field the best team possible. Our 2015 will probably contain a similar mix of players as our 2013 team. Some prospects (Middlebrooks, Doubront), some home grown players who are now well paid MLB regulars (Pedey, Lester) and some external FA acquisitions.
You also dont know if 85 wins is the upside for this team next year. however, if we are out of contention early, we can always blow it up , gut the team for prospects and plan a massive rebuild then.
However, at this point in time, Im not convinced that a core of Papi, Pedey, Lester , Buchh, Middlebrooks , Ells (in a walk year), Naps cant compete for 1 of 5 playoff spots. This is much better team than Oak was last year. If we fall out of contention, blow it up, absolutely. However, we can still do that even with teh players we acquired. We may even be able to flip them for prospects.