Re: Sox sign Naps
posted at 1/19/2013 3:54 AM EST
In response to BosoxJoe5's comment:
In response to Softlaw1's comment:
J. Upton is under contract for years. The Red Sox do not have a single top flight OF RH hitter. No, it's not platoon Johnny.
You seem to have a problem understanding that Ellsbury and his draft compensation would be a large part of the trade currency. One is 25 and under contract for year, the other will be 30 and will be gone after this season. Comparing numbers from the NL and AZ to the AL and Fenway is utter nonsense.
I've never said Ellsbury was "injury prone". I've said he is a pretzel and a prima donna. And he is. Without a doubt, the reason to trade him is that he will report to work because he wants a big FA contract. The Red Sox need to sleep in the CF bed that is 13 million a year on the great Shane.
Large part of trade currency? You have tried to trade him for everyone you could even going so far as emailing Carfardo and cry about how he was not included in the Gonzalez deal. He is 25 and is going to make 40 million the next 3 years. He is not cheap. He is not an All-Star build your line-up around type of righty. He is a righty JD Drew. To give away Ellsbury and a couple prospects for is a waste. If you wanted to say trade Ellsbury for pitching you have a much better plan. You are telling me that one year of Ellsbury, an extra pick, a couple of prospects, and any 15 million dollar OFer in 2014, 2015 isn't better than Upton. Just remember 280/20/80 is all you are getting.
No one has said Ellsbury is a prima donna. Yet there are article about Upton not getting along with his manager and complaining about being benched after going 4 for 28.
Most importantly, if he vetoed a trade to the Mariners, why would not do the same if Boston trade for him?
Its a very flawed trade proposal at best. AZ doesnt need, nor WANT another OF'er. They have too many, but he doesnt want to hear it because his hate for Ells screams louder than plain old common sense.
What Seattle gave him would be equal to...Bogy, one of Barnes/RDLR, Morales, WMB.
They could care less for a comp pick who MIGHT amount to something when they can get MLB proven talent along with prospects that are within a year or so away from MLB.
All that and like you said. Boston is on his no trade list.