Sox to Promote Devers to GCL

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    Don't trade Devers.

     
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    They briefly talked about the new Devers ranking on the soxprospects latest podcast.  Which is a must listen if you don't already subscribe.  You can listen through their website, download it to an android/iphone or listen to it on itunes.   A put a lot of weight into the information there into my writing here. It's great stuff, and again a must listen to anyone who is a sox fan interested in the farm system.  

    http://soxprospects.com/podcast/index.htm

     
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    Thanks. Appreciate it.

     
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    It is pretty amazing placing a 17 year old as your number 5 prospect on a team known for having a good and deep farm system.

    Almost everyone else is with Portland (Swihart, Owens, Johnson), Pawtucket (Betts, Marrero, Webster) or Boston (Vazquez).

    #10 Manuel Margot (age 19) is at Greenville.

    soxpeospects has placed Chavis and Kopech in the top 15, and both are 18 with minimal professional sample sizes so far.

    Wendell Rijo is at #17 and he is 18. Sam Travis is 20 and with Lowell.

     

    I am actually very excited seeing 6 prospects age 19 or younger in our top 21:

    5) Devers (17)

    10) Margot (19)

    14) Chavis (18)

    15) Kopech (18)

    17) Rijo (18)

    21) Longhi (18)

     

    Sox4ever

     
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    It is pretty amazing placing a 17 year old as your number 5 prospect on a team known for having a good and deep farm system.

    Almost everyone else is with Portland (Swihart, Owens, Johnson), Pawtucket (Betts, Marrero, Webster) or Boston (Vazquez).

    #10 Manuel Margot (age 19) is at Greenville.

    soxpeospects has placed Chavis and Kopech in the top 15, and both are 18 with minimal professional sample sizes so far.

    Wendell Rijo is at #17 and he is 18. Sam Travis is 20 and with Lowell.

     

    I am actually very excited seeing 6 prospects age 19 or younger in our top 21:

    5) Devers (17)

    10) Margot (19)

    14) Chavis (18)

    15) Kopech (18)

    17) Rijo (18)

    21) Longhi (18)

     

    Sox4ever

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    The Red Sox signed every single one of their top picks for the first time in 20 years.  They've done a lot to replenish the lower minor leagues to build another wave of talent behind this current one.  Between drafting more highschoolers and doing well in the international market.

    Of course some in here would call the 2014 1st round draft pick Michael Chavis a bust.

    in 10 games he's 2/34  Good for a .059 ba with 13 K's.  Obviously by some peoples standards in this forum he is a complete bust and we should be all mad at Ben for making another horrible draft choice. 

     
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    It is pretty amazing placing a 17 year old as your number 5 prospect on a team known for having a good and deep farm system.

    Almost everyone else is with Portland (Swihart, Owens, Johnson), Pawtucket (Betts, Marrero, Webster) or Boston (Vazquez).

    #10 Manuel Margot (age 19) is at Greenville.

    soxpeospects has placed Chavis and Kopech in the top 15, and both are 18 with minimal professional sample sizes so far.

    Wendell Rijo is at #17 and he is 18. Sam Travis is 20 and with Lowell.

     

    I am actually very excited seeing 6 prospects age 19 or younger in our top 21:

    5) Devers (17)

    10) Margot (19)

    14) Chavis (18)

    15) Kopech (18)

    17) Rijo (18)

    21) Longhi (18)

     

    Sox4ever

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    The Red Sox signed every single one of their top picks for the first time in 20 years.  They've done a lot to replenish the lower minor leagues to build another wave of talent behind this current one.  Between drafting more highschoolers and doing well in the international market.

    Of course some in here would call the 2014 1st round draft pick Michael Chavis a bust.

    in 10 games he's 2/34  Good for a .059 ba with 13 K's.  Obviously by some peoples standards in this forum he is a complete bust and we should be all mad at Ben for making another horrible draft choice. 

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    Those same posters were bashing Brian Johnson after a small sample size.

     
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    Sounds like a nice future for the Sox if a fair percentage of these kids come through, plus the ones we are already bringing up or are up.

     
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    Sounds like a nice future for the Sox if a fair percentage of these kids come through, plus the ones we are already bringing up or are up.

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    It's great to have such a high quantity of really good prospects and/or players with high upside potential, but I'd really like to see a bit more quality over quantity. It's almost unheard of to trade 3 good prospects for one great one, but trading several prospects for an established young player with several years of team control is not impossible to imagine happening.

     
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    "Even as the team's youngest player, Devers stands out as the best player on the field. Already well built, he doesn't look like a 17-year-old who has only been playing in the country for two months. In the box, he shows plus bat speed from the left side as well as plus control of the barrel. He is already comfortable in the run-producer role, looking to drive the ball with authority in all counts. He can over-swing at times and can get rotational, but it's nothing that can't be chalked up to being a teenager. Once he learns to stay through the ball and use the entire field (something he already shows signs of doing), he has the potential to be a great hitter. Despite his aggressive nature, he has a patient approach at the plate and is comfortable hitting in deep counts. He already shows good power and should eventually have plus in-game power. Defensively, he moves well at third base for a player with a solid lower half, and while he may eventually have to move off the position, he at least has a chance to stay there throughout his twenties. He has a plus arm that plays up nicely on the left side as well. Devers is still quite far from the majors, but he's considerably closer than most of his peers. If he were born in this country, he would be an early draft pick in next year's draft, perhaps in consideration for the first overall selection. He has the potential to be an impact talent. –Jeff Moore"

    http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=24551

    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

     
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    It is pretty amazing placing a 17 year old as your number 5 prospect on a team known for having a good and deep farm system.

    Almost everyone else is with Portland (Swihart, Owens, Johnson), Pawtucket (Betts, Marrero, Webster) or Boston (Vazquez).

    #10 Manuel Margot (age 19) is at Greenville.

    soxpeospects has placed Chavis and Kopech in the top 15, and both are 18 with minimal professional sample sizes so far.

    Wendell Rijo is at #17 and he is 18. Sam Travis is 20 and with Lowell.

     

    I am actually very excited seeing 6 prospects age 19 or younger in our top 21:

    5) Devers (17)

    10) Margot (19)

    14) Chavis (18)

    15) Kopech (18)

    17) Rijo (18)

    21) Longhi (18)

     

    Sox4ever

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    The Red Sox signed every single one of their top picks for the first time in 20 years.  They've done a lot to replenish the lower minor leagues to build another wave of talent behind this current one.  Between drafting more highschoolers and doing well in the international market.

    Of course some in here would call the 2014 1st round draft pick Michael Chavis a bust.

    in 10 games he's 2/34  Good for a .059 ba with 13 K's.  Obviously by some peoples standards in this forum he is a complete bust and we should be all mad at Ben for making another horrible draft choice. 

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    Too early for Chavis.....but Ball is bust......(that sounds awkward...)

    MARK IT DOWN!!

     
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    It is too early for both.

    Henry Owens had a 4.87 ERA in Greenville in his first full pro season, compared to Ball's 4.68 this year. (Granted, Owens was a year younger.)

    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

     
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    It is pretty amazing placing a 17 year old as your number 5 prospect on a team known for having a good and deep farm system.

    Almost everyone else is with Portland (Swihart, Owens, Johnson), Pawtucket (Betts, Marrero, Webster) or Boston (Vazquez).

    #10 Manuel Margot (age 19) is at Greenville.

    soxpeospects has placed Chavis and Kopech in the top 15, and both are 18 with minimal professional sample sizes so far.

    Wendell Rijo is at #17 and he is 18. Sam Travis is 20 and with Lowell.

     

    I am actually very excited seeing 6 prospects age 19 or younger in our top 21:

    5) Devers (17)

    10) Margot (19)

    14) Chavis (18)

    15) Kopech (18)

    17) Rijo (18)

    21) Longhi (18)

     

    Sox4ever

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    The Red Sox signed every single one of their top picks for the first time in 20 years.  They've done a lot to replenish the lower minor leagues to build another wave of talent behind this current one.  Between drafting more highschoolers and doing well in the international market.

    Of course some in here would call the 2014 1st round draft pick Michael Chavis a bust.

    in 10 games he's 2/34  Good for a .059 ba with 13 K's.  Obviously by some peoples standards in this forum he is a complete bust and we should be all mad at Ben for making another horrible draft choice. 

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    Too early for Chavis.....but Ball is bust......(that sounds awkward...)

    MARK IT DOWN!!

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    Ball is a bust???? you realize he had a VERY good second half and this is his first year playing out of highschool.

    FWIW his ERA is lower than Owens his first season.

    Calling Ball a bust now is ridiculous.  

     
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    It is too early for both.

    Henry Owens had a 4.87 ERA in Greenville in his first full pro season, compared to Ball's 4.68 this year. (Granted, Owens was a year younger.)

    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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    Owens is also from Cali, where Ball is from cold weather.  Those highschool kids get much less time and are generally much much more raw than your typical high school draftee.  The Sox new what they were getting themselves into.

    Ball's last 11 starts:

    56.2 IP, 40H, 17 ER, 4 HR, 22B, 39 K

    Also his arm speed reportedly improved and his velocity inched back up to 93-94.  

    Ball very well could be a bust, but calling him a bust due to his first several months of pro ball coming out of a cold weathered highschool is just beyond ignorant. 

     
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    Re: Sox to Promote Devers to GCL

    For those not doing the math that's a 1.09 WHIP, and a 2.70 ERA

     
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    It is pretty amazing placing a 17 year old as your number 5 prospect on a team known for having a good and deep farm system.

    Almost everyone else is with Portland (Swihart, Owens, Johnson), Pawtucket (Betts, Marrero, Webster) or Boston (Vazquez).

    #10 Manuel Margot (age 19) is at Greenville.

    soxpeospects has placed Chavis and Kopech in the top 15, and both are 18 with minimal professional sample sizes so far.

    Wendell Rijo is at #17 and he is 18. Sam Travis is 20 and with Lowell.

     

    I am actually very excited seeing 6 prospects age 19 or younger in our top 21:

    5) Devers (17)

    10) Margot (19)

    14) Chavis (18)

    15) Kopech (18)

    17) Rijo (18)

    21) Longhi (18)

     

    Sox4ever

    [/QUOTE]

    The Red Sox signed every single one of their top picks for the first time in 20 years.  They've done a lot to replenish the lower minor leagues to build another wave of talent behind this current one.  Between drafting more highschoolers and doing well in the international market.

    Of course some in here would call the 2014 1st round draft pick Michael Chavis a bust.

    in 10 games he's 2/34  Good for a .059 ba with 13 K's.  Obviously by some peoples standards in this forum he is a complete bust and we should be all mad at Ben for making another horrible draft choice. 

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    Too early for Chavis.....but Ball is bust......(that sounds awkward...)

    MARK IT DOWN!!

    [/QUOTE]

    Ball is a bust???? you realize he had a VERY good second half and this is his first year playing out of highschool.

    FWIW his ERA is lower than Owens his first season.

    Calling Ball a bust now is ridiculous.  

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    I'm calling him a bust in 3 years.  Calling him a bust now is simply ridiculous.  I already saw this......I'm the oracle.  Trust me.....in 3-4 years, he will be a bust.

    MARK IT DOWN!!!

     
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    It is pretty amazing placing a 17 year old as your number 5 prospect on a team known for having a good and deep farm system.

    Almost everyone else is with Portland (Swihart, Owens, Johnson), Pawtucket (Betts, Marrero, Webster) or Boston (Vazquez).

    #10 Manuel Margot (age 19) is at Greenville.

    soxpeospects has placed Chavis and Kopech in the top 15, and both are 18 with minimal professional sample sizes so far.

    Wendell Rijo is at #17 and he is 18. Sam Travis is 20 and with Lowell.

     

    I am actually very excited seeing 6 prospects age 19 or younger in our top 21:

    5) Devers (17)

    10) Margot (19)

    14) Chavis (18)

    15) Kopech (18)

    17) Rijo (18)

    21) Longhi (18)

     

    Sox4ever

    [/QUOTE]

    The Red Sox signed every single one of their top picks for the first time in 20 years.  They've done a lot to replenish the lower minor leagues to build another wave of talent behind this current one.  Between drafting more highschoolers and doing well in the international market.

    Of course some in here would call the 2014 1st round draft pick Michael Chavis a bust.

    in 10 games he's 2/34  Good for a .059 ba with 13 K's.  Obviously by some peoples standards in this forum he is a complete bust and we should be all mad at Ben for making another horrible draft choice. 

    [/QUOTE]


    Too early for Chavis.....but Ball is bust......(that sounds awkward...)

    MARK IT DOWN!!

    [/QUOTE]

    Ball is a bust???? you realize he had a VERY good second half and this is his first year playing out of highschool.

    FWIW his ERA is lower than Owens his first season.

    Calling Ball a bust now is ridiculous.  

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    I'm calling him a bust in 3 years.  Calling him a bust now is simply ridiculous.  I already saw this......I'm the oracle.  Trust me.....in 3-4 years, he will be a bust.

    MARK IT DOWN!!!

    [/QUOTE]

    WHY???

    If you get in the game of calling every prospect a bust in the low minors by default you're going to be right more than 90% of the time and probably still 50% for first round draft picks.

    If I called every first draft pick a bust, I'd be wrong on Jacoby Ellsbury but look like a genius on Vitek.  When dealing with prospects you project what they COULD due to their tools and physical projections.  Fully aware that ANY one of them can go bust you don't call them a bust until they bust.

    So are you calling Ball a bust, just on the odds that most draftees are? or are you calling him a bust because he looked bad in his first 2 months playing baseball after high school????

     
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    It is pretty amazing placing a 17 year old as your number 5 prospect on a team known for having a good and deep farm system.

    Almost everyone else is with Portland (Swihart, Owens, Johnson), Pawtucket (Betts, Marrero, Webster) or Boston (Vazquez).

    #10 Manuel Margot (age 19) is at Greenville.

    soxpeospects has placed Chavis and Kopech in the top 15, and both are 18 with minimal professional sample sizes so far.

    Wendell Rijo is at #17 and he is 18. Sam Travis is 20 and with Lowell.

     

    I am actually very excited seeing 6 prospects age 19 or younger in our top 21:

    5) Devers (17)

    10) Margot (19)

    14) Chavis (18)

    15) Kopech (18)

    17) Rijo (18)

    21) Longhi (18)

     

    Sox4ever

    [/QUOTE]

    The Red Sox signed every single one of their top picks for the first time in 20 years.  They've done a lot to replenish the lower minor leagues to build another wave of talent behind this current one.  Between drafting more highschoolers and doing well in the international market.

    Of course some in here would call the 2014 1st round draft pick Michael Chavis a bust.

    in 10 games he's 2/34  Good for a .059 ba with 13 K's.  Obviously by some peoples standards in this forum he is a complete bust and we should be all mad at Ben for making another horrible draft choice. 

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    Too early for Chavis.....but Ball is bust......(that sounds awkward...)

    MARK IT DOWN!!

    [/QUOTE]

    Ball is a bust???? you realize he had a VERY good second half and this is his first year playing out of highschool.

    FWIW his ERA is lower than Owens his first season.

    Calling Ball a bust now is ridiculous.  

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    I'm calling him a bust in 3 years.  Calling him a bust now is simply ridiculous.  I already saw this......I'm the oracle.  Trust me.....in 3-4 years, he will be a bust.

    MARK IT DOWN!!!

    [/QUOTE]

    WHY???

    If you get in the game of calling every prospect a bust in the low minors by default you're going to be right more than 90% of the time and probably still 50% for first round draft picks.

    If I called every first draft pick a bust, I'd be wrong on Jacoby Ellsbury but look like a genius on Vitek.  When dealing with prospects you project what they COULD due to their tools and physical projections.  Fully aware that ANY one of them can go bust you don't call them a bust until they bust.

    So are you calling Ball a bust, just on the odds that most draftees are? or are you calling him a bust because he looked bad in his first 2 months playing baseball after high school????

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    Hugh.....I called myself an oracle for crying out loud.  I'm busting your chops buddy...... 

    I was continuing a conversation we had a while ago about how I thought Ball should not have been our top pick last season....thinking it was in a funny manner.

     
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    It is pretty amazing placing a 17 year old as your number 5 prospect on a team known for having a good and deep farm system.

    Almost everyone else is with Portland (Swihart, Owens, Johnson), Pawtucket (Betts, Marrero, Webster) or Boston (Vazquez).

    #10 Manuel Margot (age 19) is at Greenville.

    soxpeospects has placed Chavis and Kopech in the top 15, and both are 18 with minimal professional sample sizes so far.

    Wendell Rijo is at #17 and he is 18. Sam Travis is 20 and with Lowell.

     

    I am actually very excited seeing 6 prospects age 19 or younger in our top 21:

    5) Devers (17)

    10) Margot (19)

    14) Chavis (18)

    15) Kopech (18)

    17) Rijo (18)

    21) Longhi (18)

     

    Sox4ever

    [/QUOTE]

    The Red Sox signed every single one of their top picks for the first time in 20 years.  They've done a lot to replenish the lower minor leagues to build another wave of talent behind this current one.  Between drafting more highschoolers and doing well in the international market.

    Of course some in here would call the 2014 1st round draft pick Michael Chavis a bust.

    in 10 games he's 2/34  Good for a .059 ba with 13 K's.  Obviously by some peoples standards in this forum he is a complete bust and we should be all mad at Ben for making another horrible draft choice. 

    [/QUOTE]


    Too early for Chavis.....but Ball is bust......(that sounds awkward...)

    MARK IT DOWN!!

    [/QUOTE]

    Ball is a bust???? you realize he had a VERY good second half and this is his first year playing out of highschool.

    FWIW his ERA is lower than Owens his first season.

    Calling Ball a bust now is ridiculous.  

    [/QUOTE]


    I'm calling him a bust in 3 years.  Calling him a bust now is simply ridiculous.  I already saw this......I'm the oracle.  Trust me.....in 3-4 years, he will be a bust.

    MARK IT DOWN!!!

    [/QUOTE]

    WHY???

    If you get in the game of calling every prospect a bust in the low minors by default you're going to be right more than 90% of the time and probably still 50% for first round draft picks.

    If I called every first draft pick a bust, I'd be wrong on Jacoby Ellsbury but look like a genius on Vitek.  When dealing with prospects you project what they COULD due to their tools and physical projections.  Fully aware that ANY one of them can go bust you don't call them a bust until they bust.

    So are you calling Ball a bust, just on the odds that most draftees are? or are you calling him a bust because he looked bad in his first 2 months playing baseball after high school????

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    Hugh.....I called myself an oracle for crying out loud.  I'm busting your chops buddy...... 

    I was continuing a conversation we had a while ago about how I thought Ball should not have been our top pick last season....thinking it was in a funny manner.

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    Hey, when number 6 was called two Junes ago I was hoping for Meadows.  I just think the Ball pick is perfectly defensible for now. 

     
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    Re: Sox to Promote Devers to GCL

    Rusney Castillo may have been the recognizable name in the Rookie Level Gulf Coast League championship game. But there may come a day when he’s the footnote rather than the headliner.

    After all, Castillo — who went 0-for-3 with a walk, two groundouts and a flyout — batted in front of Javier Guerra, an attention-grabbing shortstop who looks the part of a big league defender and whose unusual pop for his position was evident in the homer he smoked to right, his lone hit in a 1-for-4 day that also included a walk. Batting behind Guerra was the Sox’ top pure hitting prospect in years, Rafael Devers, who went 1-for-5 as the final note of a year that saw him lead both his DSL and GCL teams in homers at the age of 17. Devers was hitting in front of first-rounder Michael Chavis, who launched a two-run homer to left, a final display of what became a regular display of precocious extra-base power that started in August as an 18-year-old making his pro debut.

    Behind Chavis was second baseman Victor Acosta, a slight player whose strong wrists allow him to generate unlikely pop. Outfielder Luis Alexander Basabe, a 17-year-old with speed and athleticism as well as an approach that proved surprisingly advanced this year, permitting him to move from the DSL to the GCL, went 2-for-3 with a pair of walks. Left fielder Trenton Kemp, an 18-year-old who was taken in the 15th round for his intriguing power/speed combination, went 2-for-5 to wrap up an 8-for-17 postseason that included a homer. The lineup was rounded out by a huge player with huge power potential in Josh Ockimey and an 18-year-old catcher (Devon Fisher) who helped navigate through a number of wins.

    It will be years before some clarity is achieved with that group of prospects, before it is known whether Devers and Chavis and Guerra emerge as potential stars or regulars or what-happened-to’€¦ busts. But for now, between a DSL team that is competing for a championship and a GCL team that won one with an 8-1 victory over the GCL Yankees on Monday, there’s burgeoning strength in the lower levels of the Red Sox system, the likes of which hasn’t been seen in years. There is now a very distinctive wave behind the current upper levels wave, with potential high-impact players such as Devers (a potential middle-of-the-order masher at third base), Guerra (who draws uniform raves from team personnel) and Chavis (potential middle-of-the-order power at second, third or even in left) leading the charge, and some outfielders with big upside like Yoan Aybar in the DSL and Basabe and Kemp in the GCL.

    Castillo will make his mark in the big leagues this year. But in five or 10 years, it’s possible that he will prove something other than the most important player to have taken the field in the GCL Sox’ championship victory on Monday.

    http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2014/09/02/red-sox-minor-league-roundup-next-wave-of-red-sox-prospects-makes-its-mark-manuel-margots-breakout-stretch/

     

    Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

     
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    Re: Sox to Promote Devers to GCL

    Thanks for the article....nice.

    Sox4ever

     
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    Re: Sox to Promote Devers to GCL

    Well...seeing how the Devers thread was brought back up I guess I should share this.  Here is an updated scouting report on Devers from baseball prospectus.

    "Rafael Devers, 3B, Red Sox (Complex Gulf Coast League)
    Even as the team's youngest player, Devers stands out as the best player on the field. Already well built, he doesn't look like a 17-year-old who has only been playing in the country for two months. In the box, he shows plus bat speed from the left side as well as plus control of the barrel. He is already comfortable in the run-producer role, looking to drive the ball with authority in all counts. He can over-swing at times and can get rotational, but it's nothing that can't be chalked up to being a teenager. Once he learns to stay through the ball and use the entire field (something he already shows signs of doing), he has the potential to be a great hitter. Despite his aggressive nature, he has a patient approach at the plate and is comfortable hitting in deep counts. He already shows good power and should eventually have plus in-game power. Defensively, he moves well at third base for a player with a solid lower half, and while he may eventually have to move off the position, he at least has a chance to stay there throughout his twenties. He has a plus arm that plays up nicely on the left side as well. Devers is still quite far from the majors, but he's considerably closer than most of his peers. If he were born in this country, he would be an early draft pick in next year's draft, perhaps in consideration for the first overall selection. He has the potential to be an impact talent." –Jeff Moore

     
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    Re: Sox to Promote Devers to GCL

    ...perhaps in consideration for the first overall selection....

    High praise!

    Sox4ever

     
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    Re: Sox to Promote Devers to GCL

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    It is pretty amazing placing a 17 year old as your number 5 prospect on a team known for having a good and deep farm system.

    Almost everyone else is with Portland (Swihart, Owens, Johnson), Pawtucket (Betts, Marrero, Webster) or Boston (Vazquez).

    #10 Manuel Margot (age 19) is at Greenville.

    soxpeospects has placed Chavis and Kopech in the top 15, and both are 18 with minimal professional sample sizes so far.

    Wendell Rijo is at #17 and he is 18. Sam Travis is 20 and with Lowell.

     

    I am actually very excited seeing 6 prospects age 19 or younger in our top 21:

    5) Devers (17)

    10) Margot (19)

    14) Chavis (18)

    15) Kopech (18)

    17) Rijo (18)

    21) Longhi (18)

     

    Sox4ever

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    The Red Sox signed every single one of their top picks for the first time in 20 years.  They've done a lot to replenish the lower minor leagues to build another wave of talent behind this current one.  Between drafting more highschoolers and doing well in the international market.

    Of course some in here would call the 2014 1st round draft pick Michael Chavis a bust.

    in 10 games he's 2/34  Good for a .059 ba with 13 K's.  Obviously by some peoples standards in this forum he is a complete bust and we should be all mad at Ben for making another horrible draft choice. 

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    .955 OPS since then.  Fielding has left something to be desired.

    But FWIW, I only looked so I could compare Chavis w Devers.  Devers wins with a .858.

     
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    Re: Sox to Promote Devers to GCL

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    Hey Joe,


    When a prospect emerges at 3B or SS who can play defense and help us offensively I will be a happy camper.  Until then we need to trade for at the very least a 3B before next season.  Bogy I'm assuming will get his time to develop at SS.





     

     
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    Re: Sox to Promote Devers to GCL

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    It is pretty amazing placing a 17 year old as your number 5 prospect on a team known for having a good and deep farm system.

    Almost everyone else is with Portland (Swihart, Owens, Johnson), Pawtucket (Betts, Marrero, Webster) or Boston (Vazquez).

    #10 Manuel Margot (age 19) is at Greenville.

    soxpeospects has placed Chavis and Kopech in the top 15, and both are 18 with minimal professional sample sizes so far.

    Wendell Rijo is at #17 and he is 18. Sam Travis is 20 and with Lowell.

     

    I am actually very excited seeing 6 prospects age 19 or younger in our top 21:

    5) Devers (17)

    10) Margot (19)

    14) Chavis (18)

    15) Kopech (18)

    17) Rijo (18)

    21) Longhi (18)

     

    Sox4ever

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    The Red Sox signed every single one of their top picks for the first time in 20 years.  They've done a lot to replenish the lower minor leagues to build another wave of talent behind this current one.  Between drafting more highschoolers and doing well in the international market.

    Of course some in here would call the 2014 1st round draft pick Michael Chavis a bust.

    in 10 games he's 2/34  Good for a .059 ba with 13 K's.  Obviously by some peoples standards in this forum he is a complete bust and we should be all mad at Ben for making another horrible draft choice. 

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    Too early for Chavis.....but Ball is bust......(that sounds awkward...)

    MARK IT DOWN!!

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    Ball is a bust???? you realize he had a VERY good second half and this is his first year playing out of highschool.

    FWIW his ERA is lower than Owens his first season.

    Calling Ball a bust now is ridiculous.  

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    I'm calling him a bust in 3 years.  Calling him a bust now is simply ridiculous.  I already saw this......I'm the oracle.  Trust me.....in 3-4 years, he will be a bust.

    MARK IT DOWN!!!

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    WHY???

    If you get in the game of calling every prospect a bust in the low minors by default you're going to be right more than 90% of the time and probably still 50% for first round draft picks.

    If I called every first draft pick a bust, I'd be wrong on Jacoby Ellsbury but look like a genius on Vitek.  When dealing with prospects you project what they COULD due to their tools and physical projections.  Fully aware that ANY one of them can go bust you don't call them a bust until they bust.

    So are you calling Ball a bust, just on the odds that most draftees are? or are you calling him a bust because he looked bad in his first 2 months playing baseball after high school????

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    Hugh.....I called myself an oracle for crying out loud.  I'm busting your chops buddy...... 

    I was continuing a conversation we had a while ago about how I thought Ball should not have been our top pick last season....thinking it was in a funny manner.

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    Hey, when number 6 was called two Junes ago I was hoping for Meadows.  I just think the Ball pick is perfectly defensible for now. 

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    Just as a review of the early picks from that year-

    #1-Appel 5.93

    #2-Bryant Off the charts

    #3-Gray Very good so far

    #4-Stewart Good, but only a 6.4 K/9 this year

    #5-Frazier Struggling with a huge K-rate

    #6-Moran Struggling with limited power

    #7-Ball

    #8-Dozier Struggling

    So, if you had you choice, Bryant is the obvious pick, Gray is probably a strong pick, but Ball is doing about as well as the rest of them.

    However, I'm sure there was someone taken in the 2nd or 3rd round that is doing well, and that Ben should have obviously taken with the #6 overall pick.

     
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