Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
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Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:10 PM EDT
This is why I never like the sac bunt in that situation. You only have three outs. Cannot afford to give one away. A lot of people like it , but stats have shown that with men on first and second and no outs, the sac bunt is the worst thing you can do. I know this is contrary to popular opinion , but it generally is not the best move. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:13 PM EDT
It's a terrible move. Outs are valuable, more so than risp. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:14 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread:In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread : The management shouldn't care what the second guessers say... The right thing to do there is to stay close to the bag and tag up if it drops you score and with that diving catch he should've went. If Darnell would've got a good jump it would've taken two perfect throws to get him.
Posted by zack5042
Zack , with all due respect , you don't know what you are talking about. McDonald was in a position to tag , but the coach held him. What do you mean by two perfect throws? There would not be a relay. Gordon would throw to the plate. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:15 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread:This is why I never like the sac bunt in that situation. You only have three outs. Cannot afford to give one away. A lot of people like it , but stats have shown that with men on first and second and no outs, the sac bunt is the worst thing you can do. I know this is contrary to popular opinion , but it generally is not the best move.
Posted by dgalehouseWith runners on 1st and 2nd and no outs, the chances are higher to have a 1-2 run inning if the batter bunts. That's what BV was going for IMO. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:18 PM EDT
The impotence and incompetence is nearly unwatchable. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:19 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread:In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread : With runners on 1st and 2nd and no outs, the chances are higher to have a 1-2 run inning if the batter bunts. That's what BV was going for IMO.
Posted by nhsteven
To have a one run inning , maybe. I'm not sure. For one thing , there is no guarantee the bunt will be successful. But for a two run inning ? No way in the world !!!! -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:19 PM EDT
Sac bunt was right Byrd against a righty. Sweeney just couldn't deliver. McDonald was out by a couple yards if he tagged and went. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:20 PM EDT
I don't know, but it seems likely that 1,2 no outs, chances are you are going to give away an out anyway. Might as well have it advance the runners instead of a double play or lazy fly. Or K.No stats, just a feeling. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:20 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread:This team would look SO much different with Els and Crawford. Just the defense and baserunning alone
Posted by upperco1
No argument there. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:26 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread:In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread : To have a one run inning , maybe. I'm not sure. For one thing , there is no guarantee the bunt will be successful. But for a two run inning ? No way in the world !!!!
Posted by dgalehouseThe assumption is the batter at the plate is at least an adequate bunter, who would get the runners over most of the time; otherwise, it's a waste of an out. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:28 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread:In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread : The assumption is the batter at the plate is at least an adequate bunter, who would get the runners over most of the time; otherwise, it's a waste of an out.
Posted by nhsteven
Okay , Steve. But there is no way that the bunt helps you score the second run. Think about it. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:36 PM EDT
Sweeney has to drive the ball - and he didn't.
The rest is not worth arguing about. Sweeney failed. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/9/2012 11:52 PM EDT
But the Sox really need to play one run at a time these days. There's no second run if there isn't a first run. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/10/2012 12:36 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread:In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread : Okay , Steve. But there is no way that the bunt helps you score the second run. Think about it.
Posted by dgalehouseThink of it this way; you have 2 chances to get a hit to knock in that 2nd run; and if they got the 1st, they might still be playing. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/10/2012 6:34 AM EDT
I'm glad I don't have the time to watch the sawx this season. If last nights game is any indication of how the season is going to be played.Pee yew! I don't know who the ump was that called the ball that Ross caught a double but evidently he was a Royals player at one time because Ross ran with the ball in his glove for two full strides before it came out. Again I thank God for not making me watch this crud...Terrible team and the pitching sucks hind teets! Beckett do everyone a favor and demand a trade,Lester you might want to do the same and Buchholz you are just putrid! Bard at least you have an excuse and as for Doubrant nice fill in guy but still not ready for the bigs!I have tickets to one game this season in Miami and I'm thinking of letting my nephew use them. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/10/2012 7:48 AM EDT
Did the Yankees play last night? Thanks.
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Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/10/2012 9:51 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread:I still think the Yankees are always the team to beat.
Posted by dgalehousei always love it when the yank-ems get beat, but i'm afraid this year's version of the SOX won't be the ones beating them or anybody else for that matter, except ,maybe, the TWINS. the SOX own them this year. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/10/2012 12:19 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread:In Response to Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread : Think of it this way; you have 2 chances to get a hit to knock in that 2nd run; and if they got the 1st, they might still be playing.
Posted by nhsteven
On the other hand , without the bunt , you would have three chances to knock in one or both runs. The first run was already in scoring position. -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/10/2012 12:25 PM EDT
Well, we've certainly come a long way from Dave Roberts to Darnell MacDonald. Stealy Dave would have stolen 2B and then we'd have 3 chances to get ONE single to tie the game. If you can't get a Single in 3 chances with the game on the line then you don't deserve to win. If I recall properly, I think BV was going for the win on the road and not tie. I don't think that should be a hard and fast rule - we are talking about the Sox who are struggling to win, we have a decent pen right now to compete in late innings, and the Royals don't exactly have Mariano out there......... -
Re: Sox vs Royals Wednesday game thread
posted at 5/10/2012 12:35 PM EDT
They had 2 chances to get the run in and failed. I think taking away the double play and going at the very least for a sac fly was a good call considering that they had 2 chances to score one run and failed. 3 chances for a base hit with this offense is asking too much. Unfortunately.