Stealing

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    Has anybody noticed the jays are running amok on the bases...we have two of the best basestealing players in all of baseball [ crawford,ellesbury]..why isnt Francona thinking this way...the sox could be driving the jays crazy on the base pathes...Farrell has his players stealing bases...Francona needs to change his stragedy..we look bad if we don't.
     
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    [QUOTE]Has anybody noticed the jays are running amok on the bases...we have two of the best basestealing players in all of baseball [ crawford,ellesbury]..why isnt Francona thinking this way...the sox could be driving the jays crazy on the base pathes...Farrell has his players stealing bases...Francona needs to change his stragedy..we look bad if we don't.
    Posted by judgy[/QUOTE]

    In case you didn't realize it but you have to get on base before you can steal.

    You can't steal first.
     
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      [QUOTE]In Response to Stealing : In case you didn't realize it but you have to get on base before you can steal. You can't steal first.
      Posted by royf19[/QUOTE]

      You could at one time, Roy.  Of course, you still had to reach first to begin with. 

      Steal the same base twice in one inning. (And three bases total... including FIRST?) Accomplished by Germany Schaefer, Detroit Tigers, September 4, 1908. This one's going to take some 'splainin. Until 1920, Major League Baseball had a rule that made it legal to steal bases in reverse order. If you were on second and wanted to go back to first, you could steal it. Which can, in some convoluted ways, make strategic sense.

      During the September 4th, 1908, game between the Tigers and Cleveland Indians, Schaefer was on first and a teammate was on third. The Tigers wanted to do a double steal -- Schaefer would break for second, and, when the Indians tried to throw him out, his teammate would steal home. But when Schaefer broke for second, the Indians' catcher didn't make the throw, so Schaefer stole the base without the run scoring.

      That wasn't the plan so, on the next pitch, he broke back for first... and successfully stole it without a throw. Then, on the next pitch, he broke for second AGAIN, to try to make the double steal work... but again, the Indians didn't throw.

      That makes him the only player in MLB history to steal the same base twice in one inning. (And one of only two players to ever steal first base from second.)

      Talk about your defensive indifference.  Ricky Henderson, who liked to pad his SB numbers, would have loved this. 
     
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    Unless you get very, very good at willing the catcher to drop a third strike.


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    [QUOTE]In Response to Stealing : In case you didn't realize it but you have to get on base before you can steal. You can't steal first.
    Posted by royf19[/QUOTE]
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Stealing : You could at one time, Roy.  Of course, you still had to reach first to begin with.   Steal the same base twice in one inning. (And three bases total... including FIRST?) Accomplished by Germany Schaefer, Detroit Tigers, September 4, 1908 . This one's going to take some 'splainin. Until 1920, Major League Baseball had a rule that made it legal to steal bases in reverse order. If you were on second and wanted to go back to first, you could steal it. Which can, in some convoluted ways, make strategic sense. During the September 4th, 1908, game between the Tigers and Cleveland Indians, Schaefer was on first and a teammate was on third. The Tigers wanted to do a double steal -- Schaefer would break for second, and, when the Indians tried to throw him out, his teammate would steal home. But when Schaefer broke for second, the Indians' catcher didn't make the throw, so Schaefer stole the base without the run scoring. That wasn't the plan so, on the next pitch, he broke back for first... and successfully stole it without a throw. Then, on the next pitch, he broke for second AGAIN, to try to make the double steal work... but again, the Indians didn't throw. That makes him the only player in MLB history to steal the same base twice in one inning. (And one of only two players to ever steal first base from second.) Talk about your defensive indifference.  Ricky Henderson, who liked to pad his SB numbers, would have loved this. 
    Posted by losmediasrojas[/QUOTE]

    This for real?  Awesome.

     
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    [QUOTE]Has anybody noticed the jays are running amok on the bases...we have two of the best basestealing players in all of baseball [ crawford,ellesbury]..why isnt Francona thinking this way...the sox could be driving the jays crazy on the base pathes...Farrellhas his players stealing bases...Francona needs to change his stragedy..we look bad if we don't.
    Posted by judgy[/QUOTE]

    Farrell's trying to exploit Tek's "weak" arm. But running down 4-1 in the 8th?
    He may have second thoughts now.
     
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    Tek could throw out Lowrie, and a few other guys who know better than to try and steal because they are so slow. Tek can't throw out a guy with marginal speed. He's that pitiful.
     
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    Ellsbury on 3rd, Crawford on 1st, the steal title up for grabs, last game of the season. Ellsbury steals 2nd from 3rd. How awesome would that be lol.

     
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    Because his teams do not bunt, steal or hit and run to try to produce runs. He leaves pitchers in until they melt down thinking that is helping them and the team. This guy doesn't get it and NEVER will. This is why the team is 3-10 with no sign of any improvement.

    Note yesterday Farrell did not leave his starter in the game to melt down? He also didn't let one of the relievers in too long either. This shows me who really was behind the stupid pitching decisions and it was Terry Francona. This guy has worn out his welcome and needs to go. He needed to go last year as he alone with his moronic decisions let the PS get away with his use of the BP. I wish they would have gotten rid of him at the end of last season as I felt this type of start would happen. Thanks Terry but for the good of the team you need to go. If they keep him for too much longer this season will be gone also.

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    [QUOTE]Has anybody noticed the jays are running amok on the bases...we have two of the best basestealing players in all of baseball [ crawford,ellesbury]..why isnt Francona thinking this way...the sox could be driving the jays crazy on the base pathes...Farrell has his players stealing bases...Francona needs to change his stragedy..we look bad if we don't.
    Posted by judgy[/QUOTE]
     
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    The Red Sox have left more than 100 men on base   during this poor stretch..

    The 2 best base stealers are not the ones getting on  but I have seen  Ron Washington, Manny Acta and now John Farrell decide they are going to test the Sox  by stealing. Farrel has done it multiple times down 3 runs..

    Sox have Papi get on in the 8th and don't run for him Friday night.

    They look like a bland station to station team  waiting for someone to hit a 2 or 3 run homer ...  Play baseball.....  wait they did sacrifice yesterday  ONCE.
     
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    [QUOTE]Unless you get very, very good at willing the catcher to drop a third strike. In Response to Re: Stealing :
    Posted by RonSwanson[/QUOTE]

    I thought of that, but technically it's not stealing a base. It's more like reaching base on an error, altough if it's a passed ball or wild pitch, technically it's not really reaching base on an error.
     
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    [QUOTE]The Red Sox have left more than 100 men on base   during this poor stretch.. The 2 best base stealers are not the ones getting on  but I have seen  Ron Washington, Manny Acta and now John Farrell decide they are going to test the Sox  by stealing. Farrel has done it multiple times down 3 runs.. Sox have Papi get on in the 8th and don't run for him Friday night. They look like a bland station to station team  waiting for someone to hit a 2 or 3 run homer ...  Play baseball.....  wait they did sacrifice yesterday  ONCE.
    Posted by jackyldo[/QUOTE]

    To put guys on second and third with one out. What happened? The next two batters got out. So how did that bunt work. All they did was give up an out. They might have been better off giving Tek the chance to hit instead of bunt.
     
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