STILL A DOPE! A-Rod linked to Manny Ramirez adviser being probed for ties to performance-enhancing drugs

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    THe best thing for the Yankees and ARod is for him to miss the whole, come back in a year and basically start over.

     
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    All of which leads me to believe that both this hip operation and his previous operation, were covers for suspensions.  Not to say that he didn't need the operations, but they took place because they knew he was going to be suspended anyway.  And when he eventually receives his lifetime ban, they will use the operations as a cover to try to collect on his insurance.

     
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    Geez this guy is an idiot!!

     

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/feds-mlb-probe-a-rod-adviser-ped-link-article-1.1248437



    Plus, he's not really an idiot.  The NYY signed him knowing he was using PEDs.  What is the alternative?  Going back to an aging non-PED player?

     
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    THe best thing for the Yankees and ARod is for him to miss the whole, come back in a year and basically start over.

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    '' A-Rod misses the entire 2013 season, the Yankees would be able to recoup much of his $28 million salary from the insurance they have on him. The insurance kicks in only after the player has missed at least four months of the season, and it’s minimal unless he misses the entire season. Even better, of course, would be if the prognosis of Dr. Bryan Kelly, who performed the surgery to repair the labrum and an impingement in the left hip, that A-Rod will be able to resume his career as long as he does the rehab, turns out to be wrong.''


    I'm a arod fan

    used 2 president of his fan club

    B4 he wanted 2 B ;-)

    But actually the best thing is

    I've have suggested / hoped for this a few times

    but was never positive it worked the way I had suggested





    From the Yankees’ standpoint, the best-case scenario would be for A-Rod to never come back, for that would effectively get them out from under the remaining five years, $114 million on his contract. Not only would the insurance kick in for 85% of that, but A-Rod would become a voluntarily retired player with a paid-up contract that comes off the Yankee books (and subsequently would lessen their luxury-tax burden).

    It would be the same sort of welcome windfall the Baltimore Orioles reaped when, two years into a five year, $65 million contract, truculent slugger Albert Belle was forced to retire from the game at 34 with a degenerative hip condition in 2000. Belle disappeared from baseball and nobody missed him.

    So then the question must be asked: Was Cashman’s assertion that there was a possibility A-Rod could miss the entire 2013 season simply a hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question? Or was it really wishful thinking?

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/madden-bad-rx-a-rod-leave-yanks-good-health-article-1.1248411#ixzz2J4X5GKtq

     

     
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    All of which leads me to believe that both this hip operation and his previous operation, were covers for suspensions.  Not to say that he didn't need the operations, but they took place because they knew he was going to be suspended anyway.  And when he eventually receives his lifetime ban, they will use the operations as a cover to try to collect on his insurance.




    WHOA JB

    don't go KST on us

    why would MLB keep this on the Q T



    if he is still using I have mixed feelings

    the better he is the better for nyy

    he already got his money so you can't say

    it's about that

    truth his he is risking quite a bit of money

    to be the best he can be

     
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    Here we go again....

     
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    All of which leads me to believe that both this hip operation and his previous operation, were covers for suspensions.  Not to say that he didn't need the operations, but they took place because they knew he was going to be suspended anyway.  And when he eventually receives his lifetime ban, they will use the operations as a cover to try to collect on his insurance.

     




    WHOA JB

    don't go KST on us

    why would MLB keep this on the Q T



    if he is still using I have mixed feelings

    the better he is the better for nyy

    he already got his money so you can't say

    it's about that

    truth his he is risking quite a bit of money

    to be the best he can be

     



    It's merely a suspcion, much like I suspected Jordan was suspended for gambling in a back door fashion.  BB would like this issue to disappear ASAP, and a suspension of ARod would keep this in the papers for another year.

    IRT being the best he can be, it is the same logic as to why kids cheat on tests, sell drugs, et.

     
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    That's news to me. From everything I have read the terms of the insurance policy that the Yankees have on arod have not been disclosed, so nobody except for the Yankees know exactly what money, if any, that they will recoup.

    I hadn't heard anything either

    but if someone was to get something from hal

    my moneys on madden

    I won't bet on it though


    I have also read in several articles that the majority of these long term contracts are only insured for the early part, typically no more than 4-5 years. If that is the case with arod's contract, the Yanks wouldn't be covered at all.

    I have read they take the big contracts 3 yrs at a time

    but that might of been just pitchers




    I wish they guy would just retire and sail off into the sunset, it would be best for all parties involved.


    mostly because of this new budget kick

    I won't argue with that

     
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    That's news to me. From everything I have read the terms of the insurance policy that the Yankees have on arod have not been disclosed, so nobody except for the Yankees know exactly what money, if any, that they will recoup.

    I hadn't heard anything either

    but if someone was to get something from hal

    my moneys on madden

    I won't bet on it though


    I have also read in several articles that the majority of these long term contracts are only insured for the early part, typically no more than 4-5 years. If that is the case with arod's contract, the Yanks wouldn't be covered at all.

    I have read they take the big contracts 3 yrs at a time

    but that might of been just pitchers




    I wish they guy would just retire and sail off into the sunset, it would be best for all parties involved.


    mostly because of this new budget kick

    I won't argue with that



    It would be almost impossible to imagine what the rules would be for a contrat paying a guy into old age.  You certainly can't use the same rule for someone 28 as for someone 38.  Everything is more brittle, and anything prone towards wearing down will be twice as risky.

     
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    It's merely a suspcion, much like I suspected Jordan was suspended for gambling in a back door fashion. BB would like this issue to disappear ASAP, and a suspension of ARod would keep this in the papers for another year.

    sorry JB

    I can't go there with U

    big PR difference between gambling and peds

    plus it's a guy who already has been outed

    maybe if it was a pujols or someone like that



    IRT being the best he can be, it is the same logic as to why kids cheat on tests, sell drugs, et.

    while some mutli millionaires might cheat on their tests in fear of their parents

    I don't see selling drugs fitting anywhere here

     
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    All of which leads me to believe that both this hip operation and his previous operation, were covers for suspensions.  Not to say that he didn't need the operations, but they took place because they knew he was going to be suspended anyway.  And when he eventually receives his lifetime ban, they will use the operations as a cover to try to collect on his insurance.

     




    WHOA JB

    don't go KST on us

    why would MLB keep this on the Q T



    if he is still using I have mixed feelings

    the better he is the better for nyy

    he already got his money so you can't say

    it's about that

    truth his he is risking quite a bit of money

    to be the best he can be

     

     



    It's merely a suspcion, much like I suspected Jordan was suspended for gambling in a back door fashion.  BB would like this issue to disappear ASAP, and a suspension of ARod would keep this in the papers for another year.

     

    IRT being the best he can be, it is the same logic as to why kids cheat on tests, sell drugs, et.




    A bit far fetched.

    If it was true that Arod was/is riding out a suspension it would give the Yankees good grounds to void his contract.

    Which I'm sure they would now love to do.

     
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    A bit far fetched.

    If it was true that Arod was/is riding out a suspension it would give the Yankees good grounds to void his contract.

    Which I'm sure they would now love to do.

    The rumor was that any PED clauses on Giambi were stricken from the final contract.

    It would also be really difficult for the NYY to take on the role of an innocent party duped by the player and his agent into beleiving he hadn't taken PEDs.  If this was in court, and I was on the jury, my assumption would be that the NYY knew exactly what they were doing, and it is too late to suddenly find religion.  I'd refer to it as a Conversion of Convenience, which I invented, and will eventually become a legal term.

     
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    A bit far fetched.

    If it was true that Arod was/is riding out a suspension it would give the Yankees good grounds to void his contract.

    Which I'm sure they would now love to do.

    The rumor was that any PED clauses on Giambi were stricken from the final contract.

    It would also be really difficult for the NYY to take on the role of an innocent party duped by the player and his agent into beleiving he hadn't taken PEDs.  If this was in court, and I was on the jury, my assumption would be that the NYY knew exactly what they were doing, and it is too late to suddenly find religion.  I'd refer to it as a Conversion of Convenience, which I invented, and will eventually become a legal term.

     




     

    You sound like a juror in the OJ trial.

    Let's put a few things in context time wise.

    If you remember ARod signed that big contract in 2005 with the Yankees.

    Then in 2009 Arod was outed in a book by Salina Roberts as one of the players who failed the unpublished PED test admininstered by MLB in 2003.

    This was news to everyone, and bad news to the Yankees.

    However unlike the other players who failed that test, (Manny, Big Papi among them) Arod had a press conference and publicly admitted that he had cheated.

    For him to get caught cheating now by the Yankees or MLB after signing that contract after admitting he cheated, after apologizing to the Yankees and his teammates  seems to me to be pretty good grounds for the Yankees to throw out his 2005 contract.

    I'm not a lawyer but common sense dictates the Yankees would have a pretty good case.

     
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    Geez this guy is an idiot!!

     

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/feds-mlb-probe-a-rod-adviser-ped-link-article-1.1248437

     



    Plus, he's not really an idiot.  The NYY signed him knowing he was using PEDs.  What is the alternative?  Going back to an aging non-PED player?

     

     



    He's an idiot for continuing to put himself in these positions.

     

    And if he is still using, it surely hasn't helped much!!



    I think the dope is why he's having physical problems now. It's finally catching up to him, his body is breaking down.

     
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