Hypothetically speaking, had Dice-K caught Callaspo’s hot line drive that almost took his head off in the 2nd inning, and had gone 8 innings with no hits, would Tito have sent him out for the 9th having already thrown 115 pitches? (duh)
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stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/24/2011 11:54 AM EDT
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Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/24/2011 12:04 PM EDT
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For Dice to get a no-no? All of Japan would have attacked Boston and raided Titos house if he didnt. -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/24/2011 12:07 PM EDT
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i was impressed by Dice's reflexes on that missile - if it were Wake we would be having a wake as we speak... -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/24/2011 12:19 PM EDT
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He would have gone out for a few reasons. One, it was a no-hitter. Two, he would have probably had fewer pitches as he would have faced one less batter that inning. And three, with the off day tomorrow, he would have gotten 5 days rest anyway. And can you imagine Varitek with his 5th caught no-hitter? -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/24/2011 12:50 PM EDT
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Crazy fast reflexes saved him. What impressed me is how he pitched after that play. -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/24/2011 1:27 PM EDT
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from the get go I have never given up on DiceK. to see him turning it on is giving me great satisfaction. to see beckett with an era under 2 is unbelieveble.
now if mr. lackey comes out firing and we get the sweep of the angels, the pot will be quite empty for those that wish to stir it are concerned. and what cracks me up is that we are still in april. talk about a turn around eh?
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Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/24/2011 10:43 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: stirring the pot....just a little:
[QUOTE]He would have gone out for a few reasons. One, it was a no-hitter. Two, he would have probably had fewer pitches as he would have faced one less batter that inning. And three, with the off day tomorrow, he would have gotten 5 days rest anyway. And can you imagine Varitek with his 5th caught no-hitter?
Posted by fizsh
Yup. -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/24/2011 10:52 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: stirring the pot....just a little:i was impressed by Dice's reflexes on that missile - if it were Wake we would be having a wake as we speak...
Posted by georom4
I'm impressed that you're impressed positively about anything! Good for you!
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Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/24/2011 10:54 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: stirring the pot....just a little:from the get go I have never given up on DiceK. to see him turning it on is giving me great satisfaction. to see beckett with an era under 2 is unbelieveble. now if mr. lackey comes out firing and we get the sweep of the angels, the pot will be quite empty for those that wish to stir it are concerned. and what cracks me up is that we are still in april. talk about a turn around eh? Keep kicking azz Red Sox!!!
Posted by Hammah29r2
Congrats, Hammah! :o) Keep calling 'em.
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Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/24/2011 11:52 PM EDT
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Yup. 115 isn't a killer. -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/25/2011 4:40 PM EDT
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let's "bump" up the volume nation of the faithful............... -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/25/2011 5:50 PM EDT
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seriously, dice k was cracy cat quick on the liner and anyone else wouldve been in the hospital or morgue (Wake) -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/25/2011 6:06 PM EDT
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Can you imagine if Varitek was squatting behind the plate when DiceK throws a no-hitter? Yep, as well as imagining scads of other catchers who might be back there as well.
If the game was well in control, and DiceK said he felt good and was not laboring and still had good form on his pitching motion, of course you leave him in. It should never be about pitch count. It's about whether a pitcher still has a good throwing motion and shows no signs of fatigue that might cause an arm or shoulder injury. -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/25/2011 6:49 PM EDT
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Oh my word, can you imagine the outcry had Tito sent Dice back out for the no-no and Matsuzaka wrecked his arm on pitch No. 130? I'm not one for stretching the limit on a pitcher's arm just to get a no-hitter, especially on April 23. -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/25/2011 8:59 PM EDT
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LMAO, stretching the limit. Especially on April 23?? Would it be alright on 4/24? or maybe 5/1?? Just when would it be alright to "stretch the limit?"
There will be games in August where a pitcher won't be as effective or as strong as he was in April. Each and every pitcher is different, and to use the same limit on all of them is nonsense. I'm surprised they don't start counting, between inning, warmups as actual pitches toward the "100".
Maybe they should start counting by the inning, and if a pitcher throws more than 12 in an inning he gets removed. Maybe they could take him out if he throws more than 6 to a batter.
Why not simply stay in the clubhouse and send the order to take him out when he reaches the magic 100, no matter the situation. -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/25/2011 9:15 PM EDT
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Yes he would have left him in. You also have to factor in the pitches he threw to the next batter... so he wouldn't have quite been at 115 pitches. -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/25/2011 9:29 PM EDT
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I just enjoy the games. It is a shame that many here can't. -
Re: stirring the pot....just a little
posted at 4/25/2011 11:09 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: stirring the pot....just a little:LMAO, stretching the limit. Especially on April 23?? Would it be alright on 4/24? or maybe 5/1?? Just when would it be alright to "stretch the limit?" There will be games in August where a pitcher won't be as effective or as strong as he was in April. Each and every pitcher is different, and to use the same limit on all of them is nonsense. I'm surprised they don't start counting, between inning, warmups as actual pitches toward the "100". Maybe they should start counting by the inning, and if a pitcher throws more than 12 in an inning he gets removed. Maybe they could take him out if he throws more than 6 to a batter. Why not simply stay in the clubhouse and send the order to take him out when he reaches the magic 100, no matter the situation.
Posted by BOSOX1941
"LMAO", '41? Are you sure you weren't ROTFL? Or maybe just LOL?
By "stretch the limit," I didn't mean his pitch limit. I have no idea what Matsuzaka's pitch limit is. I meant the limit on possibly wearing out his arm, which has had issues in the not-so-distant (as in, each of the last two years) past.
Finally, "no matter the situation" is precisely the point. It was a 5-0 game on April 23 -- in other words, in the first of a six-month season. And only his fourth of what hopefully will be 35 starts.
I couldn't care less whether Daisuke Matsuzaka pitches a no-hitter or not. I'd far rather him win 18 games in the regular season and maybe five more in the postseason.