Suk-min Yoon

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    With two teams in the running for the services of Suk-min Yoon of Korea... we could be seeing the Red Sox pick this 27 year old international free agent up.  The Twins appear to have bowed out and the other team in discussions was the Red Sox... so if I read this right we could be signing this player very soon. 

    This would work along with the push the Sox are making to get imbedded into the Asian market this year.  The Sox made a deal with a Korean team earlier this month to specifically get better access to Korean players and I think this will be the first deal that comes from those efforts.

     

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/01/suk-min-yoon-in-talks-with-two-clubs-may-sign-soon.html

    [January 29, 2014 at 12:40pm CST]

    WEDNESDAY: The Twins aren't inclined to meet agent Scott Boras' asking price at this time, tweets Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN.

    5:16pm: South Korean hurler Suk-min Yoon is engaged in talks and could sign soon, according to a Naver Sports article (Korean language link, via a tweet from Dan Kurtz of MyKBO.net). The 27-year-old righty has reportedly fielded four offers from MLB clubs, and is in discussions with two of the offering teams.

    Yoon landed at 36th on MLBTR's Tim Dierkes's list of the top fifty free agents. Though he is said to offer substantially less upside than fellow Korean Hyun-jin Ryu of the Dodgers, Yoon is said to be the next-best arm to come out of the KBO. As Dierkes explained in his profile of Yoon, the hurler has experience both as a starter and as a reliever. 

    The most recent reports indicated that the Red Sox and Twins both have interest in Yoon, who is not controlled by any KBO club and is therefore a free agent. While Yoon's value remains difficult to assess, Dierkes gave his best guess as a two-year, $10MM deal.

     

     

    http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2014/1/10/5296998/red-sox-sign-japanese-independent-league-hideyoshi-otake

    The Red Sox have invested considerable time into the Asian market this offseason. The team agreed to a special information exchange deal with the Nexen Heroes of the Korean Baseball Organization last week. The deal will give the Red Sox access to scouting information from the KBO. In exchange for the information, the team will provide farm system development strategies to the Heroes.

     
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    weird

     
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    Looks like we would be buying low on this guy if we did sign him... his last year wasn't good from what I am reading, but he won the league MVP in 2011.

    If the Sox sign him for two years, they still control the player for six years through arbitration like Tazawa. This means that the Sox could be paying for his services knowing that he might be damaged goods and could miss a year like Junichi and still get something out of him. The contract just states what they guarantee the player, but they still get the full amount of years to control the player like a prospect.


    camdendepot.blogspot.com/2014/01/discussing-korean-free-agent-pitcher.html

    Yoon was not close to being the best pitcher in the KBO in 2013. In fact, he was not even the best pitcher on his own team, the Kia Tigers. He had some shoulder issues that had carried over from 2012 and had a slow start in 2013. He bounced between the rotation and the pen, ending up with only 87.2 innings pitched, the second-lower total of his career. Some players have career years in their "contract season" or in the season right before becoming a free agent, but Yoon picked the worst possible time to have perhaps his worst season as a KBO pro.

    Yoon did win the MVP after claiming the pitching triple crown in 2011, but struggled the following seasons. Yoon enjoyed that spectacular 2011 season (17-5, 2.45 ERA, 178 Ks in 172.1 IP, 44 BB, 3 SH_)

    Players must put in the equivalent of seven full seasons to be eligible for posting and nine full seasons to become free agents. (After eight seasons, they need their team's approval to sign with a foreign team. After nine, they are complete free agents, like Suk-min Yoon.)

    But, if there is another KBO player who can make the successful transition to MLB, then fans here will be pretty excited. Yoon is no exception. He has put in nine years for the Kia Tigers. He has started, closed, and pitched in middle relief. They won the 2009 Korean Series, but they had some terrible seasons, too. He won the MVP after going 17-5, but there was also one season when he was 7-18 while still managing to keep his ERA under 4.00. Yoon is probably the oly KBO pitcher to have led the league in wins and in losses in two different seasons in his career. In other words, you want to talk about a guy who has paid his dues? Yoon is that guy.



     
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    Here are some videos of him pitching

     

    http://youtu.be/GekPMyxOals

    http://youtu.be/1ne2PNX_zVY

    http://youtu.be/amJGPxTgBaA

     
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    Suk min yoon? Pass. The name alone is enough to make me want to run.

     
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    Is this some kind of a joke ?

     
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    I wish it was a joke... but this is very real.  The name is a trip though huh?

     
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    According to MLBTR and his agent Scott Boras, Yoon should make his decision within the next 10 days.

     
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    Hideki Okajima redux?

     
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    Thanks for video. Clean mecahnics seems to use breaking ball as his out pitch. Never have enough pitching bring him aboard.

     

     
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    i'm confused.  he's never thrown a pitch in the MLB...isn't the rule of thumb to give him $155MM for 7 years??????

     

     

     
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    i'm confused.  he's never thrown a pitch in the MLB...isn't the rule of thumb to give him $155MM for 7 years??????



    Only if you're a desperate team. Wink

     
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    First of all, it's getting very lame with making fun of names of different nationalities.  Are you from 70s?  

    Yoon specifically stated that he will sign with the team which offers him SP job.  Boras said Yoon will get the SP job but he has to earn it just like Ryu did competeting in the ST.  If that's the case, Sox might be in the mix.  But we already have 6 major league starters and 3-4 AAA guys ready to go if anything happens.  There should be teams which fit better than Sox for Yoon.  Boras is mentioning Red Sox to lift money on the table right now.  I don't see Sox landing Yoon.  If Yoon finds way to land in Boston somehow, he could be very solid #4 starter for the cost of average veteran reliever.  I can see either the Rangers or Cubs signing Yoon.    

     
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    Any video on this guy. I like what I've read about him. Just too many injuries to Starters, with Buchholz, you never know. Could lead to other moves too.

     
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    Any video on this guy. I like what I've read about him. Just too many injuries to Starters, with Buchholz, you never know. Could lead to other moves too.



    There is a decent amount of video on him since he starred in the World Baseball Classic and played in a number of international games.  I posted these earlier, but a search on youtube can get you more.

    http://youtu.be/GekPMyxOals

    http://youtu.be/1ne2PNX_zVY

    http://youtu.be/amJGPxTgBaA

     
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    Any video on this guy. I like what I've read about him. Just too many injuries to Starters, with Buchholz, you never know. Could lead to other moves too.



    There is a decent amount of video on him since he starred in the World Baseball Classic and played in a number of international games.  I posted these earlier, but a search on youtube can get you more.

    http://youtu.be/GekPMyxOals

    http://youtu.be/1ne2PNX_zVY

    http://youtu.be/amJGPxTgBaA



    I just figured he had U and garyhow on ignore ;-)

    good stuff RSDO thanks

     
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    Any video on this guy. I like what I've read about him. Just too many injuries to Starters, with Buchholz, you never know. Could lead to other moves too.



    There is a decent amount of video on him since he starred in the World Baseball Classic and played in a number of international games.  I posted these earlier, but a search on youtube can get you more.

    http://youtu.be/GekPMyxOals

    http://youtu.be/1ne2PNX_zVY

    http://youtu.be/amJGPxTgBaA



    I just figured he had U and garyhow on ignore ;-)

    good stuff RSDO thanks



No worries :-D

 
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    With two teams in the running for the services of Suk-min Yoon of Korea... we could be seeing the Red Sox pick this 27 year old international free agent up.  The Twins appear to have bowed out and the other team in discussions was the Red Sox... so if I read this right we could be signing this player very soon. 

    This would work along with the push the Sox are making to get imbedded into the Asian market this year.  The Sox made a deal with a Korean team earlier this month to specifically get better access to Korean players and I think this will be the first deal that comes from those efforts.

     

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/01/suk-min-yoon-in-talks-with-two-clubs-may-sign-soon.html

    [January 29, 2014 at 12:40pm CST]

    WEDNESDAY: The Twins aren't inclined to meet agent Scott Boras' asking price at this time, tweets Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN.

    5:16pm: South Korean hurler Suk-min Yoon is engaged in talks and could sign soon, according to a Naver Sports article (Korean language link, via a tweet from Dan Kurtz of MyKBO.net). The 27-year-old righty has reportedly fielded four offers from MLB clubs, and is in discussions with two of the offering teams.

    Yoon landed at 36th on MLBTR's Tim Dierkes's list of the top fifty free agents. Though he is said to offer substantially less upside than fellow Korean Hyun-jin Ryu of the Dodgers, Yoon is said to be the next-best arm to come out of the KBO. As Dierkes explained in his profile of Yoon, the hurler has experience both as a starter and as a reliever. 

    The most recent reports indicated that the Red Sox and Twins both have interest in Yoon, who is not controlled by any KBO club and is therefore a free agent. While Yoon's value remains difficult to assess, Dierkes gave his best guess as a two-year, $10MM deal.

     

     

    http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2014/1/10/5296998/red-sox-sign-japanese-independent-league-hideyoshi-otake

    The Red Sox have invested considerable time into the Asian market this offseason. The team agreed to a special information exchange deal with the Nexen Heroes of the Korean Baseball Organization last week. The deal will give the Red Sox access to scouting information from the KBO. In exchange for the information, the team will provide farm system development strategies to the Heroes.

    PICK HIM UP  ???????   Why don't we TRADE Dennis Rodman, STRAIGHT UP for him !!!!




    Plain stupid.  And you still think there are East and West German.  

     
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    I'm Korean and I do not want the Red Sox to sign him.  He has been an average pitcher in the KBO (which is the equivalent of A or AA here in the States).  

     

     
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    I'm Korean and I do not want the Red Sox to sign him.  He has been an average pitcher in the KBO (which is the equivalent of A or AA here in the States).  

     




        I agree.  Adding a number of ham and eggers , of any nationality, does not constitute " depth."

     
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    Any video on this guy. I like what I've read about him. Just too many injuries to Starters, with Buchholz, you never know. Could lead to other moves too.



    There is a decent amount of video on him since he starred in the World Baseball Classic and played in a number of international games.  I posted these earlier, but a search on youtube can get you more.

    http://youtu.be/GekPMyxOals

    http://youtu.be/1ne2PNX_zVY

    http://youtu.be/amJGPxTgBaA



    Thanks Papi! Sorry got by me.

     
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    I'm Korean and I do not want the Red Sox to sign him.  He has been an average pitcher in the KBO (which is the equivalent of A or AA here in the States).  

     



    Not that I typically quote comments on a message board... but this guy seems to have a very good post after this was on MLBTR in October.  He seems to agree with you... do you know what sites are good to go into to compare stats on Korean players?

    www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/10/free-agent-profile-suk-min-yoon.html#disqus_thread

    Choi1
    • 3 months ago
    As someone who follows the KBO quite closely, my personal opinion is that Yoon is damaged goods. Yoon being regarded as the second best pitcher in the league is old news. The consensus is that he's missed the timing to make a successful transition to the major leagues. The injury was indeed very serious and he never really recovered from that. As a Korean person, sure, I would love to see Yoon come here and succeed. I'm just not anticipating a good transition, especially as a starter. Not that anyone asked but my opinion is that he lacks the durability to be a starter and lacks the stuff to be a good reliever.


    Read more: http://forum.soxprospects.com/thread/1521/#ixzz2s0TTqIpa


     
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    from what i see and he's been asking for about 2 years and 10mil...i'd sign him right now.

     
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