Tampa Bay is Not Going Away: Part 3

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    Tampa Bay is Not Going Away: Part 3

    Just a reminder: they are still here!

    I thought it strange that Matt Joyce (1.046 OPS pregame)  batted 7th tonight.

    Shields       5-2  2.15
    Hellickson  6-3  2.80 (Garzawhodeedoo?)
    Price            6-4  3.54 

    Joyce    1.066 OPS
    Longoria .967  (missed time)
    Kotch      .896
    Zobrist    .801
     
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    I have been waiting for this thread with intense anticipation.
     
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    Tampa has a top notch scouting and player development machine. They'll always be in the running for a playoff spot.

    Also, please note:  The team really began to take off when Manny abruptly retired!
     
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    If he had stayed clean he probably would have helped them... even 27hr+ and 80rbi+ with protection for Longoria.... 
     
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    They just need one of these guys to come around/step it up:

    1) W. Davis
    2) Nieman
    3) Sonnanstine
    4) Cobb

    ...and the pen to keep it up.
     
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    Maddon seems to find a way to get the most out his players. This team has no superstars to speak of, except for maybe Longoria, yet manages to stay in the thick of things even though they lost Pena, Crawford, Garza, Bartlett, and most of the pen.
    When you watch these guys play, you can just feel the intensity, something you don't see with the Sox unless they are playing NY.

     
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    I'll wait for part 10 before I can draw any conclusions.
     
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    Refreshing folks, the old fashion way. Scouting, Drafting, and Development in the Minors, and they should only get better in the coming years. They have 10 picks in top 60 in this years Draft. Blue Jays not far behind.

    Plus the kids they got for Garza.
     
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    The flip side of the coin is that they are only developing talent for the Sox, the EE and other elite teams with money to burn since they can't or won't pay to keep most of them.  They have no choice except to develop talent the old fashioned way.  It is not done by choice but rather out of necessity.
     
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        You have a point, but they eem to get the best years out of their kids and dump them just in time. The jury is still out on CC and Garza, but neither has done much since the left TB. They also seem to have good luck getting best years from some FAs, but they have had their fair share of FA failures as well.

         The Garza trade brought TB two of the Cubs’ top prospects, right-hander Chris Archer, a 15-game winner in two minor league stops last season, 20-year-old shortstop Hak-Ju Lee, catcher Robinson Chirinos and outfielders Sam Fuld and Brandon Guyer.
     
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    They weren't there, last night.

    Tampa Bay will go away, but, unfortunately, the author of this thread will be here longer than a cockroach. No need for Part 1, much less Part 3. Spam comes to mind.
     
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    I think flies are attracted to Spam.

    The buzzing fly said TB would miss Soriano. He has stunk thus far and the TB pen has looked sharp thus far.

    The buzzing fly said they'd miss CC and Pena. Boy, I bet they wish they had them this year.
     
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    I can't see them sustaining this at 1/4 of the payroll of the Sox. As far as this comment goes:
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    Refreshing folks, the old fashion way. Scouting, Drafting, and Development in the Minors, and they should only get better in the coming years. They have 10 picks in top 60 in this years Draft. Blue Jays not far behind.
    Posted by bobbysu


    Why is sucking for a decade and loading up on top draft picks more honorable than combining player development with elite free agents?

    We have let lots of FAs go for drafts and haven't finished first twice in our division in the last 10 years. Give credit where credit is due. Very good organization.
     
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    The TB rays were only 8 years old when Andrew Friedman took over in 2005. Yes, they had good draft picks for year due to bad records, but the stockpiling of draft picks took off under Freidman. Also, hiring a good manager has helped. There have not been many ex-Tb players who have went on to light up the league. The timing seems near perfect at times. Trades have boosted the farm, and there is a constant infusion of youths with impact every year. They have Longoria locked up for what might be the most GM friendly deal in all of sports. They have a young starting staff under team control at low cost for years and years.

    TB is not going away this year, next year, or afterwards. Does that mean they ill make the playoffs every year? No.

    Neither will the Sox at 3-4 times the salary.
     
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    If Seattle's current 8-1 lead over Tampa Bay holds up (with Felix Hernandez on the mound), the Mariners and Rays will be tied in the Wild Card standings after Thursday's games.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_06_02_tbamlb_seamlb_1&mode=gameday
     
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    TB is not going away this year, next year, or afterwards. Does that mean they ill make the playoffs every year? No.

    Neither will the Sox at 3-4 times the salary

    If they don't make the playoffs, they have gone away. You are the most prolific bully poster of pure meaningless nonsense in message board history.

    Losing tonight, stunk in 2009. Despite your arrogant protestations, the Rays are a much worse baseball team than a year ago. You started this thread because you have some childish infatuation with the Rays. As you always do, Twins can't afford Mauer, you will just keep on posting and pretend the Rays "never went away" even though they didn't make the playoffs.

    Ortiz needs to be benched for Lowell, v. LHP. Since you feel the inferiority complex compels you to start the name calling, a clown is an actor. You aren't an actor, you are a bully with the IQ of an idiot! 
     
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    TB will remain competitive for years to come, including this year.

    You keep trying to make you definition of any baseball term the ONLY one. TB has been just as competitive as the Sox since 2008. Their GM has done a great job building this team into a highly competitive team... all on a low-budget. Just missing the playoffs is still competitive. 

    They are better this year than if they had Garza, CC, and Pena putting up their current numbers. The sampe size is small for sure, but the trend has been building whereby they seem to let guys walk "just in time" for their decline. Matt Joyce , Hellickson, and Kotchman are doing a fantastic job this year filling the vacant slots or upping their games played this year.

    The no name pen has done a fine job. Before last year started, you said their weakness was their pen, you keep down-playing the value of speed, bu this team scores with speed not fancy high OPS. It is not a fluke.

    Sidenote: Ortiz had about a .500 OPS last year against the LH'd starters I said he should sit against. Only you see that as a mistaken position.

    You see keeping Jed as a mistake (Scutty injured).
    You see keeping Jake as a mistake (he's having a great start)
    You keep seeing keeping Wake on the roster as a mistake.
    You keep seeng Dice-K and Oki as saviors and good "team players", now Dice is AWOL and Oki is crying for a trade.
    You keep aying you were right on Mauer, when you said MN could afford 17-18M.
    You keep saying you were right on AGon, when you said it was 50-50 he'd  traded and that SD would get Jake & Jed (yurmisguided dream).
    You kept saying AGon would not sign in April. (Cricketts)

    No poster has been more wrong than you since last October. No poster clings to past "glories" that are in actuality half-truths.

    Calling a clown a clown is not being a bully: it's being realistic.

     
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    Re: Tampa Bay is Not Going Away: Part 3

    i know TAMPA BAY is not going away, but could you help brighten my day by suggesting that THEO is going away?
     
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     Ortiz had about a .500 OPS last year against the LH'd starters I said he should sit against. Only you see that as a mistaken position.

    No, anyone can see it. You would have sat him v. LHP starting pitching, this year, but will claim otherwise.

    Knock off the pontificating and patronizing routine with other posters. Despite all the cutting and pasting, you have less insight than Smiley.
     
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    In Response to Re: Tampa Bay is Not Going Away: Part 3:
    [QUOTE] Ortiz had about a .500 OPS last year against the LH'd starters I said he should sit against. Only you see that as a mistaken position. No, anyone can see it. You would have sat him v. LHP starting pitching, this year, but will claim otherwise. Knock off the pontificating and patronizing routine with other posters. Despite all the cutting and pasting, you have less insight than Smiley.
    Posted by SoxSoldRed[/QUOTE]

    smiley is very insightful and funny at least.
     
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    LMAO! Nothing like the face of crook!
     
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    In Response to Re: Tampa Bay is Not Going Away: Part 3:
    [QUOTE]    You have a point, but they eem to get the best years out of their kids and dump them just in time. The jury is still out on CC and Garza, but neither has done much since the left TB. They also seem to have good luck getting best years from some FAs, but they have had their fair share of FA failures as well.      The Garza trade brought TB two of the Cubs’ top prospects, right-hander Chris Archer, a 15-game winner in two minor league stops last season, 20-year-old shortstop Hak-Ju Lee, catcher Robinson Chirinos and outfielders Sam Fuld and Brandon Guyer.
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    It is amazing what you can get if you are willing to trade a stud starting pitcher in his prime. I didn't remember them getting all those guys from that trade but Archer was supposed to be the biggest find there.
     

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