Re: Tampa Bay is not Going Away: Part 5
posted at 8/3/2011 1:56 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Tampa Bay is not Going Away: Part 5
[QUOTE]good pitching is what it is all about, but they need runs pure and simple. they knew going into the season that they were going to have trouble replacing crawford and pena and signed manny and damon in hopes that that would do the trick. we know how that turned out. their outfield ba is about .235 and they do have jennings coming on strong, but he is a ways away. it actually looks like they started believing their own press and outsmarted themselves. they have mind boggling depth at starting pitcher and couldn't flip anyone for a stud hitter? you mean to tell me that the yankees wouldn't think about montero plus for shields? or the angels with trout? or nationals with harper?
they also could have packaged upton. i think they really whiffed on the season. they are still a tough out but so are the blue jays and i think that rays management were probably aiming a little higher than comparisons to the 2011 blue jays. time and again world series winners are represented by two ace pitching staffs. they should have made a deal.
Posted by kbair[/QUOTE]Actually there is no way the Angels are trading Trout for more pitching or the Nats are trading Harper right now.
Upton is a hard sell for them. You can only publicly chastize a player for being laxidazical so many times and get max value for him. Anybody who would have wanted Upton wasn't sending an immediate offensive upgrade to them, that would have been counter productive. It would be like the RS sending Beckett to get Velander. Where's the net gain?
The Rays are a team that is in a bad market, not just small market but bad market. The fanbase has not rewarded their winning at the gate and that certainly limits their flexibility.
I am not sure they outsmarted themselves as much as they did what they had to do and it just did not pan out completely. They did an amazing job of completely rebuilding the bullpen but the offense has fallen short.
I would have thought the bullpen would have been the harder to sustain but it was hard to forecast a 100 point drop in OPS for Longoria after he came off of the DL. And in light of Pena and Crawford leaving his productivity was critical to their run production.
Fuld's quick start probably masked issues the delay of Jennings arrival caused them too.
But I think they were quite smart not to do anything rash to try and not go away in 2011. I always took the statement that they weren't going away did not mean they'd take WC or the Division only that they'd be a factor in the race and would be a potential threat into September. It was wise of them not to make short term moves to do that.