Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

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    Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

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    The Rangers are looking for bullpen help and Red Sox relieverAndrew Bailey may be of interest to them.  The two clubs have spoken this spring and it shows the Rangers remain more concerned about their bullpen than their rotation.

    The Rangers are concerned about their right-handed setup relief behind Nathan and Jason Frasor. They are hoping Lindblom and/or Tanner Scheppers slot in behind Nathan and Frasor but both have been inconsistent this spring. Both are trying to find the right mix of velocity and command.

    Bailey was the Athletics closer in 2009-11 before being traded to the Red Sox. He was supposed to be their closer but he missed the first 41/2 month of the season with torn ligaments in his right thumb. He ended up pitching in 19 games and a 7.04, and the Red Sox traded for Joel Hanrahan in the off-season. But Bailey is making $4.1 million this season and still likely to make the team as a setup reliever.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    In response to mrmojo1120's comment:

    From :

    http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/2013/03/22/last-call-from-the-desert-joe-nathan-andrew-bailey/

     

    The Rangers are looking for bullpen help and Red Sox relieverAndrew Bailey may be of interest to them.  The two clubs have spoken this spring and it shows the Rangers remain more concerned about their bullpen than their rotation.

    The Rangers are concerned about their right-handed setup relief behind Nathan and Jason Frasor. They are hoping Lindblom and/or Tanner Scheppers slot in behind Nathan and Frasor but both have been inconsistent this spring. Both are trying to find the right mix of velocity and command.

    Bailey was the Athletics closer in 2009-11 before being traded to the Red Sox. He was supposed to be their closer but he missed the first 41/2 month of the season with torn ligaments in his right thumb. He ended up pitching in 19 games and a 7.04, and the Red Sox traded for Joel Hanrahan in the off-season. But Bailey is making $4.1 million this season and still likely to make the team as a setup reliever.



    mrmojo, I think it would be a big mistake to start trading away members of this bullpen. It is one of our big strengths. The 2002 Angels went all the way because of their bullpen.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    mrmojo, I think it would be a big mistake to start trading away members of this bullpen. It is one of our big strengths. The 2002 Angels went all the way because of their bullpen.

    But there is a reason why every team wins the WS, and usually more than one.  One had sluggers, one had a great rotation, one had two aces, etc.

    I'd listen, but I don't think we have enough depth at this point to make a move,  When Breslow and Morales return, then I think we'd need to move someone.

    Theoretically-

    • Hanrahan
    • Tazawa
    • Uhura
    • Bailey
    • Aceves
    • Breslow
    • Miller
    • Morales
    • Mortensen
    • Bard

    That's 9 names.  Bard can certainly go down.  Tazawa can also, but he was our best BP arm last year.  That means you have to trade at least one good arm, and still probably have to trade Mortensen as well.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    Depends what they are offering for him. Don't trade him just to thin out the pen.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    There was no mention of the return.  Without that, there is not much to discuss. 

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    Always open to CONVERSATION !!!!!

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    The way Young Ben wheels and deals, he always gets less when dealing from a position of strength. He will probably pick up a .214 hitter and give Bailey away.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

    mrmojo, I think it would be a big mistake to start trading away members of this bullpen. It is one of our big strengths. The 2002 Angels went all the way because of their bullpen.

    But there is a reason why every team wins the WS, and usually more than one.  One had sluggers, one had a great rotation, one had two aces, etc.

    I'd listen, but I don't think we have enough depth at this point to make a move,  When Breslow and Morales return, then I think we'd need to move someone.

    Theoretically-

    • Hanrahan
    • Tazawa
    • Uhura
    • Bailey
    • Aceves
    • Breslow
    • Miller
    • Morales
    • Mortensen
    • Bard

    That's 9 names.  Bard can certainly go down.  Tazawa can also, but he was our best BP arm last year.  That means you have to trade at least one good arm, and still probably have to trade Mortensen as well.

    Joe,  It would be very unwise to trade Mortensen and  J F knows that !!

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    I'd still listen to offers.

    God knows this team is weak in many areas.

     
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    I'd certainly listen to offers but there's no need to deal someone from the pen unless it's for an over payment.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    In response to AL34's comment:

    The way Young Ben wheels and deals, he always gets less when dealing from a position of strength. He will probably pick up a .214 hitter and give Bailey away.



    when dealing from a position of strength?? you do know Bailey missed most of last year and was ineffective when he did return... his value is very low. in regards to Bailey, he is dealing from a position of weakness. If i was TX i wouldn't be offering anything more than a lottery arm...

    He's been pitching OK in ST so far but certainly not well enough to improve his value over 8 innings.. i think if he does get dealt it will be a little bit into the season when Breslow and Morales get healthy and when he's had a chance to rebuild some value.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    I would at least be willing to listen to what they would offer us back. Bailey is still a 2 time AS closer who suffered at thumb injury last year. GM's know hes worth more than what he showed last year and the Rangers know they need a legit closer to contend in the ALW this year.

    As of late Bailey has been noticably better. But unless there going to overpay a little, I would keep him for now.

     
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    What i've seen so far from Hanrahan at least suggests his slip from 2011 to 2012 was no fluke.  WHIP is over 2.  Yes its only 6 innings but I would hold off on any Bailey move until we see JH pitch effectively.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

    mrmojo, I think it would be a big mistake to start trading away members of this bullpen. It is one of our big strengths. The 2002 Angels went all the way because of their bullpen.

    But there is a reason why every team wins the WS, and usually more than one.  One had sluggers, one had a great rotation, one had two aces, etc.

    I'd listen, but I don't think we have enough depth at this point to make a move,  When Breslow and Morales return, then I think we'd need to move someone.

    Theoretically-

    • Hanrahan
    • Tazawa
    • Uhura
    • Bailey
    • Aceves
    • Breslow
    • Miller
    • Morales
    • Mortensen
    • Bard

    That's 9 names.  Bard can certainly go down.  Tazawa can also, but he was our best BP arm last year.  That means you have to trade at least one good arm, and still probably have to trade Mortensen as well.



    It's actually 10 names, but who is counting?

    I'd listen to offers for Bailey, but I wouldn't hand him away. I'd like to package Ellsbury with him and solve the the JBJ issue, but it isn't going to happen.

    When everyone is healthy, someone will have to be creatively DL'd or traded. My bet is it will be Aceves or Bailey. I doubt Mortensen gets much in return, so I'd keep him around. I think he has real potential.

     

    Tazawa needs to be on the big club if we want to win this year ASAP.

    Bradley needs to be in CF if we want to win this year (worth waiting 11 days for).

    Iggy needs to be our FT SS if we want to win this year.

    All other moves and decisions should be based on these 3 factors.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

     

    mrmojo, I think it would be a big mistake to start trading away members of this bullpen. It is one of our big strengths. The 2002 Angels went all the way because of their bullpen.

    But there is a reason why every team wins the WS, and usually more than one.  One had sluggers, one had a great rotation, one had two aces, etc.

    I'd listen, but I don't think we have enough depth at this point to make a move,  When Breslow and Morales return, then I think we'd need to move someone.

    Theoretically-

    • Hanrahan
    • Tazawa
    • Uhura
    • Bailey
    • Aceves
    • Breslow
    • Miller
    • Morales
    • Mortensen
    • Bard

    That's 9 names.  Bard can certainly go down.  Tazawa can also, but he was our best BP arm last year.  That means you have to trade at least one good arm, and still probably have to trade Mortensen as well.

     



    It's actually 10 names, but who is counting?

     

    I'd listen to offers for Bailey, but I wouldn't hand him away. I'd like to package Ellsbury with him and solve the the JBJ issue, but it isn't going to happen.

    When everyone is healthy, someone will have to be creatively DL'd or traded. My bet is it will be Aceves or Bailey. I doubt Mortensen gets much in return, so I'd keep him around. I think he has real potential.

     

    Tazawa needs to be on the big club if we want to win this year ASAP.

    Bradley needs to be in CF if we want to win this year (worth waiting 11 days for).

    Iggy needs to be our FT SS if we want to win this year.

    All other moves and decisions should be based on these 3 factors.




    The JBJ issue is whether or not he is better than Gomes, not Ellsbury. Trading Ellsbury makes your team worse just not to make to a difficult decision go away.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    Trade Ellsbury, Bailey, and Nava.

    For: David Murphy and a couple top prospects.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    Trade Ellsbury, Bailey, and Nava.

    For: David Murphy and a couple top prospects.




    What? Really?

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    In response to BurritoT-'s comment:

    What? What kind of trade is that?

     

    Bailey and Elles for Porcello.

     

    I am for keeping Elles until July and see what is what



    It's a trade to stregthen our future ( 2 top prospects), clear the way for JBJ in CF, solve the LF issue (Murphy) and find Papi's replacement (Gomes). It cuts salary and allows us to possible spend more at the deadline by picking up a salary dump or two.

    I like Porcello too, but I do not think Detroit wants Ells at that cost.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    In response to Joebreidey's comment:

     

    mrmojo, I think it would be a big mistake to start trading away members of this bullpen. It is one of our big strengths. The 2002 Angels went all the way because of their bullpen.

    But there is a reason why every team wins the WS, and usually more than one.  One had sluggers, one had a great rotation, one had two aces, etc.

    I'd listen, but I don't think we have enough depth at this point to make a move,  When Breslow and Morales return, then I think we'd need to move someone.

    Theoretically-

    • Hanrahan
    • Tazawa
    • Uhura
    • Bailey
    • Aceves
    • Breslow
    • Miller
    • Morales
    • Mortensen
    • Bard

    That's 9 names.  Bard can certainly go down.  Tazawa can also, but he was our best BP arm last year.  That means you have to trade at least one good arm, and still probably have to trade Mortensen as well.

     



    It's actually 10 names, but who is counting?

     

    I'd listen to offers for Bailey, but I wouldn't hand him away. I'd like to package Ellsbury with him and solve the the JBJ issue, but it isn't going to happen.

    When everyone is healthy, someone will have to be creatively DL'd or traded. My bet is it will be Aceves or Bailey. I doubt Mortensen gets much in return, so I'd keep him around. I think he has real potential.

     

    Tazawa needs to be on the big club if we want to win this year ASAP.

    Bradley needs to be in CF if we want to win this year (worth waiting 11 days for).

    Iggy needs to be our FT SS if we want to win this year.

    All other moves and decisions should be based on these 3 factors.



    so, to have a chance to win this year we need to play JBJ but also get rid of Ells?? that sounds counter productive if we are trying to win this year. i mean, i like JBJ as much as the next guy but there is no way he surpasses Ells in terms of total production.

     
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    so, to have a chance to win this year we need to play JBJ but also get rid of Ells?? that sounds counter productive if we are trying to win this year. i mean, i like JBJ as much as the next guy but there is no way he surpasses Ells in terms of total production.

    Actually, the trading of Ellsbury would be for the future, and if we keep him, I suppose our 2013 chances do go up, but I doubt they move Ellsbury to LF, so a trade seems like in order.

    No way JBJ outproduces Ells? I guess you are assuming good health and are not factoring in defense.

     

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

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    so, to have a chance to win this year we need to play JBJ but also get rid of Ells?? that sounds counter productive if we are trying to win this year. i mean, i like JBJ as much as the next guy but there is no way he surpasses Ells in terms of total production.

    Actually, the trading of Ellsbury would be for the future, and if we keep him, I suppose our 2013 chances do go up, but I doubt they move Ellsbury to LF, so a trade seems like in order.

    No way JBJ outproduces Ells? I guess you are assuming good health and are not factoring in defense.

     



    good health is always assumed until an injury occurs. and yes, i factored in defense. JBJ has better instincts. Ellsbury has more speed, their range is about equal although i would give a slight edge to JBJ. JBJ has a better arm than Ells by a LOT. i would just place jacoby a notch below JBJ defensively. But in terms of offense, Ells has a track record of success offensively. There's no telling what we will get from JBJ in a full season (minus 11 games) against MLB pitcher who are actually trying to get him out and pitching to scouting reports. So on that basis, i think Ells will have more production.

     
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    Re: Texas contacted Red Sox about Andrew Bailey

    In response to BurritoT-'s comment:

    moon The owner of the Tigers is pushing 90. They need a CF and most likely will need a closer.... anyhow your trade for Murphy... you should edit that before many more see it.   = )



    The trade is for the 2 top prospects. Murphy just fills the LF need for a year and evens up the money a bit.

    My offer stands.

    Come one- come all.

    See it.

     
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