That is a nasty bullpen

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    That is a nasty bullpen

    Not many teams could trot out those 5 guys to finish the game.

    I think the Bp is going to be huge for the Red Sox this year. Also interested they had Tazawa pitch the 8th.

    This bullpen is seriously deep.

     
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    In response to snakeoil123's comment:

    Not many teams could trot out those 5 guys to finish the game.

    I think the Bp is going to be huge for the Red Sox this year. Also interested they had Tazawa pitch the 8th.

    This bullpen is seriously deep.




    Miller had his issues, but yeah. They looked good.

     
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    this may be the first time i can ever remember supporting the entire 1 inning relief specialist concept

     
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    Gotta be one of the best and deepest BP's in MLB. Its good feeling comfortable with a lead now.

     
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    In response to snakeoil123's comment:

    Not many teams could trot out those 5 guys to finish the game.

    I think the Bp is going to be huge for the Red Sox this year. Also interested they had Tazawa pitch the 8th.

    This bullpen is seriously deep.



    The only weakness was Miller's BB's ...otherwise outstanding                                                                            

     
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    Not many teams could trot out those 5 guys to finish the game.

    I think the Bp is going to be huge for the Red Sox this year. Also interested they had Tazawa pitch the 8th.

    This bullpen is seriously deep.

     



    The only weakness was Miller's BB's ...otherwise outstanding                                                                            

     



    True, but Miller has lights out stuff when he can control it.

     
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    In response to snakeoil123's comment:

    Not many teams could trot out those 5 guys to finish the game.

    I think the Bp is going to be huge for the Red Sox this year. Also interested they had Tazawa pitch the 8th.

    This bullpen is seriously deep.



    It's only the first game snakeoil but they certainly looked good.

     
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    And just think...all that without Morales, Bard and Breslow too.

     
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    In response to carnie's comment:

    In response to snakeoil123's comment:

     

    Not many teams could trot out those 5 guys to finish the game.

    I think the Bp is going to be huge for the Red Sox this year. Also interested they had Tazawa pitch the 8th.

    This bullpen is seriously deep.

     




    Miller had his issues, but yeah. They looked good.

     



    Thats just Andrew being Andrew.

     
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    Pen was strong, last year. As long as Manager doesn't get too smart by taking out an effective pen arm who is getting quick and easy outs, just for the sake of chaning pitchers every inning. I understand not overworking one pitcher, but the pitch count and during the game effectiveness and matchup recent history should determine pen moves, not what inning it is.

    Last year, they didn't get enough early innings from the starters. Lester and 5 innings doesn't cut it, but works for one game early. They need to get more 6 annd 6 and change starts from the starters, where they limit the opponent to 4 runs or less. Lester will need to go another inning, and going against the weak Yankee lineup wasn't where he needs to be during the long season.

    Pen will be worn down and overused unless they get at least 3 starters who provide a lot of 6 innings plus quality starts. Lester needs to do better. Buch should be able to do it. We'll see on Douby, Dumpster and Slackey.




    Starters usually don't go deep into games on Apr 1st, especially with the climate change. I'm surprised at you.

     
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    Pen was strong, last year. As long as Manager doesn't get too smart by taking out an effective pen arm who is getting quick and easy outs, just for the sake of chaning pitchers every inning. I understand not overworking one pitcher, but the pitch count and during the game effectiveness and matchup recent history should determine pen moves, not what inning it is.

    Last year, they didn't get enough early innings from the starters. Lester and 5 innings doesn't cut it, but works for one game early. They need to get more 6 annd 6 and change starts from the starters, where they limit the opponent to 4 runs or less. Lester will need to go another inning, and going against the weak Yankee lineup wasn't where he needs to be during the long season.

    Pen will be worn down and overused unless they get at least 3 starters who provide a lot of 6 innings plus quality starts. Lester needs to do better. Buch should be able to do it. We'll see on Douby, Dumpster and Slackey.

     




     

    Starters usually don't go deep into games on Apr 1st, especially with the climate change. I'm surprised at you.



    Kershaw pitched a complete game.. but in 92 pitches.

     
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    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    Pen was strong, last year. As long as Manager doesn't get too smart by taking out an effective pen arm who is getting quick and easy outs, just for the sake of chaning pitchers every inning. I understand not overworking one pitcher, but the pitch count and during the game effectiveness and matchup recent history should determine pen moves, not what inning it is.

    Last year, they didn't get enough early innings from the starters. Lester and 5 innings doesn't cut it, but works for one game early. They need to get more 6 annd 6 and change starts from the starters, where they limit the opponent to 4 runs or less. Lester will need to go another inning, and going against the weak Yankee lineup wasn't where he needs to be during the long season.

    Pen will be worn down and overused unless they get at least 3 starters who provide a lot of 6 innings plus quality starts. Lester needs to do better. Buch should be able to do it. We'll see on Douby, Dumpster and Slackey.



    The pen very well might be overused. Which is why it is a positive that the pen is so good.

     
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    In response to nhsteven's comment:

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    Pen was strong, last year. As long as Manager doesn't get too smart by taking out an effective pen arm who is getting quick and easy outs, just for the sake of chaning pitchers every inning. I understand not overworking one pitcher, but the pitch count and during the game effectiveness and matchup recent history should determine pen moves, not what inning it is.

    Last year, they didn't get enough early innings from the starters. Lester and 5 innings doesn't cut it, but works for one game early. They need to get more 6 annd 6 and change starts from the starters, where they limit the opponent to 4 runs or less. Lester will need to go another inning, and going against the weak Yankee lineup wasn't where he needs to be during the long season.

    Pen will be worn down and overused unless they get at least 3 starters who provide a lot of 6 innings plus quality starts. Lester needs to do better. Buch should be able to do it. We'll see on Douby, Dumpster and Slackey.

     




     

    Starters usually don't go deep into games on Apr 1st, especially with the climate change. I'm surprised at you.



    In all fairness, Softlaw mentioned that it 'works for one game early'.   Not quite the king's English, but I'm pretty sure he was conceding 5 IPs was okay this early.  To be honest, I thought it was vintage Softlaw commentary.  I give him a +1.

     
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    Gotta be one of the best and deepest BP's in MLB. Its good feeling comfortable with a lead now.




    I Agree Trip7s,  The Sox Are Going To Be Better Then Most Think, Get Well Ortiz For

    RedSox-October.....

     
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    "Pen will be worn down and overused unless they get at least 3 starters who provide a lot of 6 innings plus quality starts. Lester needs to do better. Buch should be able to do it. We'll see on Douby, Dumpster and Slackey."

    Glad you found a silver lining. 

    But seriously thanks for rediscovering pitching after at least a year of downplaying it. 

    Agreed that starters are doing to need to go deeper than five inninngs. 

    I like what I saw on opening day though!!!!

     
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    Today's xcellent start aside, I honestly think this BP could be the best in the mlb.  Miller has been the most unsung career turnaround with the Sox!  The guy is becoming one of he best LHRP specialists in the business!  Great stuff! :)

     
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    Today's xcellent start aside, I honestly think this BP could be the best in the mlb.  Miller has been the most unsung career turnaround with the Sox!  The guy is becoming one of he best LHRP specialists in the business!  Great stuff! :)



    he is more than a LOOGY.

     
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    Here's what I loved: Five relievers got 12 outs on a combined 52 pitches. And that's with Miller  needing 21 to get two. Uehara got three outs on five pitches!

    Granted, this was not "Murderers Row," but it was a very encouraging start.

     

     
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    In response to LloydDobler's comment:

    Here's what I loved: Five relievers got 12 outs on a combined 52 pitches. And that's with Miller  needing 21 to get two. Uehara got three outs on five pitches!

    Granted, this was not "Murderers Row," but it was a very encouraging start.

     



    Good Point, LD.......

     
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    I was surprised that Farrell didn't let Uehara go an extra inning given that he only threw 5 pitches or throw Bailey out there for the 8th.  I guess given the off day on Tuesday, he wanted to give as many pitchers work as possible.  The chillling and windy weather may also have been a factor.  His use of them also communicates confidence.  

     
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    In response to Sheriff-Rojas' comment:

    I was surprised that Farrell didn't let Uehara go an extra inning given that he only threw 5 pitches or throw Bailey out there for the 8th.  I guess given the off day on Tuesday, he wanted to give as many pitchers work as possible.  The chillling and windy weather may also have been a factor.  His use of them also communicates confidence.  




    i think the only reliever who didn't see the field was Mortenson.. maybe he was just giving us a taste of how dirty our BP will be?

     
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    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    Starters usually don't go deep into games on Apr 1st, especially with the climate change. I'm surprised at you

    In fact, Lester was around the 100 pitch count mark. He wasn't efficient, and neither was CC. If it was the climate change, they would have pulled them with lower pitch counts.



    1st start of the season-On the road-5 innings-100 pitches, leave with a lead = good start for Lester with the emphesis on "good", not great. I didn't watch the game and haven't even seen the box score. Sounds like the kid did a good job, the pen did thiers, we scored 8 gave up 2 on the road against the Yanks, facing CC Sabathia = Good win and start to the season...nothing more, nothing less.

     

     
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