the 2014 infield

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    the 2014 infield

    Except for Pedroia (ersting tonight), is this the 2014 infield? A very good chance, I would guess.

     
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    is what the 2014 infield

     
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    In response to bosoxmal's comment:

    Except for Pedroia (ersting tonight), is this the 2014 infield? A very good chance, I would guess.



    Certainly could be...

     
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    I think they'll take a chance and offer a QO to all 4 of our FAs.  And only Ells is automatic to decline.

     

     
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    In all the discussions about retaining free agents Ellsbury, Napoli, Drew, and Saltalamacchia, it has become increasingly clear Ben C is unlikely to keep both Napoli and Drew and likely to keep one of them.  My money is on Drew because he has actually been a pretty good defensive SS.  Not as good as Iglesias, of course, but solid.  And a better bat and a lefty bat at that.  So I agree last night was probably a preview. 

    However, Ben C has demonstrated that he develops lots of options before committing, so I'm thinking it is possible Drew and Napoli both leave, which will leave an opening at 1B. 

     
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    In response to bosoxmal's comment:

    Except for Pedroia (ersting tonight), is this the 2014 infield? A very good chance, I would guess.



    Ersting tonight?

    Sounds kinky.

    Wink

     
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    I think they'll take a chance and offer a QO to all 4 of our FAs.  And only Ells is automatic to decline.



    I agree Ells is most likely to decline.  I'd be fine if they all accepted.  Perhaps an overpay for Salty, but I would be happy to sign him for 4/50 if that what it takes as good catchers are so rarely available.  Fangraphs is just an indication of value, but look at 2013:

    • Ellsbury:  Salary 9.0m, value 28.8m, games 131
    • Saltalamacchia:  4.5m, 16.0m,  117
    • Napoli:  13.0m, 18.1m, 136
    • Drew:  9.5m, 14.1m, 119

    I'll bet they are all given the QO and will all decline.....on a 162-game basis they have all massively outperformed their salary.  

    In contrast:

    • AGon:  21.0m, 13.5m , 150
    • Victorino: 13.0m , 28.0m, 118
    • Reddick:  .51m, 11.3m, 107
    • Nava:  .506m, 8.0m, 129

     

     

     
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    Interesting that Middlebrooks was used at 1st base on Sat. night.

    Could it be that Cherry is thinking Middlebrooks at 1st instead of resigning Napoli? Then Bogaerts at 3rd and keep Drew for one more season? Doubtful that Drew would sign another one year contract, though. I'd rather see a longterm solution at SS , but that does not ever seem to be the Red Sox way.

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    Well I saw this one coming.  I'm still going to bet that in 2014'this is our infield.

    3b WMB

    SS Bogaerts

    2nB Pedey

    1b Napoli/FA

     

     
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    In response to maxbialystock's comment:

    In all the discussions about retaining free agents Ellsbury, Napoli, Drew, and Saltalamacchia, it has become increasingly clear Ben C is unlikely to keep both Napoli and Drew and likely to keep one of them.  My money is on Drew because he has actually been a pretty good defensive SS.  Not as good as Iglesias, of course, but solid.  And a better bat and a lefty bat at that.  So I agree last night was probably a preview. 

    However, Ben C has demonstrated that he develops lots of options before committing, so I'm thinking it is possible Drew and Napoli both leave, which will leave an opening at 1B. 



    Max, why do you think it's become increasingly clear?  Other than Boegarts' mediocre start, I haven't seen any signals.  Budget permitting, I don't see a big problem keeping both.  With a week to go in 2013, these are the games missed by:

    • Napoli - 20
    • Drew - 37
    • Middlebrooks - 68 (obviously inflated by his demotion)
    • Ortiz - 24 (less a few for interleague games)

    So assuming Boegarts is able to play at MLB level going forward and a similar health standard among the above 4, and assuming Midds has 10 missed games next year, that is around 90 games available.

    If Boegarts tears it up, we can deal one of the others mid-season.  If he fails, we have a strong IF.  If he's not quite ready, we juggle him with the other 4 and he gets 90 or so games in.

    And if one of the other 4 suffers a major injury, we have him as an option.

     

     

     
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    I was looking forward to


    Boggy

    Iggy

    Pedey

    Willy

    Now it looks like it's more likely to be:

    Willy

    Boggy

    Pedey

    Carp

     
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    Well I saw this one coming.  I'm still going to bet that in 2014'this is our infield.

    3b WMB

    SS Bogaerts

    2nB Pedey

    1b Napoli/FA

     



    It all depends on how the market develops for Napoli & Drew.  The Sox have plenty of options and won't have to overpay for either player.  My guess is that one of the two will be back, but there's no way they sign both. 

     
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    My prediction is Napoli (accepting a QO) along with Pedroia, Bogaerts and Middlebrooks.

     

    If Napoli walks (QO or not), the FA names for 1B do get very weak after Kendrys Morales...

     
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    Interesting that Middlebrooks was used at 1st base on Sat. night.

    Could it be that Cherry is thinking Middlebrooks at 1st instead of resigning Napoli? Then Bogaerts at 3rd and keep Drew for one more season? Doubtful that Drew would sign another one year contract, though. I'd rather see a longterm solution at SS , but that does not ever seem to be the Red Sox way.

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    probably just an experiment, Middy is back at third today.  Cannot have a third baseman who double clutches

     

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    that double clutch may have cost us the top seed

     

    also, it would be nice if maybe Clay, during his 3 month vacation, could had found some time to work on his pick off move.......

     
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    Re: the 2014 infield

    Possible 2014 Sox infields:

     

    Most likely:

    1B- *Napoli (Carp/Nava/Papi)

    2B- Pedroia (Holt)

    SS- Bogaerts (Holt)

    3B- Middlebrooks (Bogey/Snyder/Holt/Cecchini)

    (* Could sign K Morales, Morneau, C Hart, or M Morse instead of Napoli)

     

    Money saver:

    1B: Carp/Nava/Papi/Lava/Salty

    2B: Pedroia

    SS: Bogaerts

    3B: Middlebrooks

    (* Could sign a cheap corner IF'er or super utilty guy in case of struggles)

     

    Doubtful, but doable:

    1B: Middlebrooks

    2B: Pedroia

    SS: *Drew

    3B: Bogaerts

    (*Could sign another SS instead of Drew, but short term only.)

     

    Sox4ever

     
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