Re: The Amazing Jose Iglesias
posted at 8/13/2013 10:13 PM EDT
In response to BMav's comment:
You are probobaly one of those old school fielding percentage is everything kind of guys.
In response to moonslav59's comment:
In response to BMav's comment:
He makes fun to watch, creative, off balance plays. Not one of the 3 best defensive SS's in baseball though. A bit over rated.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Mmmmm. Folgers brew. I am more mid school and find the RF[range factor] stats interesting. That is the number of outs made by a player per game. The numbers you have mentioned numerous times here btw. Only real actual numbers instead of opinionated numbers.
Iglesias has a major league RF of 4.10 and a minor league RF of 4.18. These are very low numbers. Below average. Compare them to the two best defensive SS's in baseball in my opinion...
I challenge you or anybody else to find a SS with an excellent defensive reputation in the history of baseball with even similar lousy RF stats. I find nobody even close. Kind of odd that these incredibly important numbers of his are so lousy isn't it? Pure coincidence? Maybe. Partly team pitching affected, probably. But to such an extreme extent? I doubt it.
I believe Iglesias is great with off balance plays and throws in short spaces. But his arm strength is probably below average. He doesn't make a lot of plays deep in holes. I also think he plays kind of shallow.
Iglesias lack of arm strength makes his defense over rated. I think as time goes on, people will begin to notice this problem and his reputation will decrease some. This is my opinion of course. I have some pretty big and important stats to back up my theory. It has nothing to do with fielding percentage. And I admit I am out front on this. If Iglesias had a Simmons or Furcal type arm, he would probably be worthy of the extreme praise he is getting, maybe more so. But its not even in the same ball park.
On a side note, Iglesias has 1 extra base hit and no walks in his last 29 games. Speaking of amazing, that is kind of amazingly hollow.
As I have stated many times, Iggy could hit .220 and still be a net plus.
Yes, I have used RF/9, but never alone to judge anyone. RF/9 does not take into account how many balls were hit in a players area. If a player plays on a team with pitchers who have a lot of Ks or fly balls, then one would expect the IF'er to have lower RF/9 rates than the norm.
Here are some numbers:
A) Baseball ref has Iggy's career SS RF/9 at 4.27 not 4.18.
B) There is a number that does take into account how many balls are hit in a SSs areas and how many are converted into outs. It's UZR/150. Out of 66 MLB SSs with over 250 innings at SS since 2012, here are the rankings:
1) 28.1 Simmons
2) 27.4 Iggy
3) 21.8 Espinosa
4) 15.9 L Cruz
5) 14.2 Ransom
C) By far, the biggest factor in Iggy's high UZR/150 is his rngr factor (range). He also has a high DPR per innings.
D) As for his arm strength and overall defensive skillset, I'll trust my eyes and that of several scouting reports or MLB GMs:
Bleacher Report: Jose's defense rates as "major league-ready" and "plus-plus" by any measure.
R.S.B.: ...excellent range, a strong arm, quick feet, decisive and smart.
Baseball Prospect Nation: You can’t argue with Iglesias’ defensive prowess. He is the best defensive infielder in the minor leagues, and frankly, it’s not very close. Iglesias is a jaw-dropping defender and he is worth of a big-league roster spot thanks to those skills alone.
Dombrowski: "Somebody that has seen him play just sent me a note and said ‘In all my years in the game, the only two defensive shortstops I’ve seen that are better are Ozzie and Vizquel."
Soxprospects.com: Elite defensive skills highlighted by extremely fluid hands and soft glove. Excellent instincts and anticipation produces his well above-average range. Will get to balls that most, if not all, will not. Plus, accurate arm.