The CRAWBURY Highway

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    The CRAWBURY Highway

    J. Ellsbury in April:     .266 BA  .337 OBP  .805 OPS  94 AB  5 SB  16 R
    C. Crawford in April:   .155 BA  .204 OBP  .431 OPS  97 AB  4 SB    6 R

    REDSOX in April: 11-15 (.423)



    J. Ellsbury in May:    .314 BA  .381 OBP  .827 OPS  121 AB  14 SB  20 R
    C. Crawford in May:  .304 BA  .323 OBP  .810 OPS  112 AB    3 SB  19 R

    REDSOX in May:  19 - 10 (.655)



    J. Ellsbury in June:   .429 BA  .432 OBP  .1020 OPS    49 AB   5 SB  13 R
    C. Crawford in June: .302 BA  .331 OBP    .891 OPS    43 AB   1 SB    8 R

    REDSOX in June: 9 - 1 (.900)


    Some  'coincidence',  eh?
     
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    [QUOTE]J. Ellsbury in April:     .266 BA  .337 OBP  .805 OPS  94 AB  5 SB  16 R C. Crawford in April:   .155 BA  .204 OBP  .431 OPS  97 AB  4 SB    6 R REDSOX in April: 11-15 (.423) J. Ellsbury in May:     .314 BA  .381 OBP  .827 OPS  121 AB  14 SB  20 R C. Crawford in May :  .304 BA  .323 OBP  .810 OPS  112 AB    3 SB  19 R REDSOX in May :  19 - 10 (.655) J. Ellsbury in June :   .429 BA  .432 OBP  .1020 OPS     49 AB   5 SB   13 R C. Crawford in June : .302 BA  .331 OBP    .891 OPS    43 AB   1 SB    8 R REDSOX in June : 9 - 1 (.900) Some  'coincidence',  eh?
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]

    Crawbury fields, together.
    Crawbury fields, together.
    Crawbury fields...together.

    http://youtu.be/Z9pGRtP9WsI

    I buried Softlaw (heard faintly in the background)
     
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    Crawbury fields have now become a Crawbury highway.
     
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    I would think that that more factors came into play than the resurgence of Crawford but then attributing it to twenty variables would not be good thread material. Many tried to attribute last years poor Red Sox showing to the myriad of injuries and that didn't play in Peoria neither. The crowd needs scapegoats are else simplistic answers.
     
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    You are missing the point. It's not about Crawford. It's about the CRAWBURY tandem and how they affect the RedSox, as well as the opposition.
     
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    tan·dem (tndm)
    n.
    1. A two-wheeled carriage drawn by horses harnessed one before the other.
    2. A team of carriage horses harnessed in single file.
    3. A tandem bicycle.
    4. An arrangement of two or more persons or objects placed one behind the other: driving horses in tandem.
    adj.
    Having two identical components arranged one behind the other: a tandem axle.


    A team of horses - not two.

    Varitek
    Salty
    Lowrie
    AGon
    Ellsbury
    Crawford
    Youk
    Papi
    Bucholz
    Beckett
    Lester
    Papelbon

    A dozen horses for the tandem. Yes a team tandem.
     
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    I didn't see any coincidence. Am I missing something?

    Plus, have we seen the tandem back-to-back yet?
     
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    [QUOTE]I didn't see any coincidence. Am I missing something? Plus, have we seen the tandem back-to-back yet?
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]They hit 1st and 2nd for a couple of games before Crawford started hitting. Eventually I'd love to see Ells and Crawford at 1 and 2. As well as things are going right now though, I don't think I'd mess with the lineup.
     
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    In Response to Re: The CRAWBURY Highway:
    [QUOTE]I would think that that more factors came into play than the resurgence of Crawford but then attributing it to twenty variables would not be good thread material. Many tried to attribute last years poor Red Sox showing to the myriad of injuries and that didn't play in Peoria neither. The crowd needs scapegoats are else simplistic answers.
    Posted by Your-Echo[/QUOTE]


    I'll try again. You mentioned other factors beyond (the resurgence of) Crawford.
    The OP/thread title clearly states CRAWBURY.
    I am drawing a direct parallel: Jacoby Ellsbury/Carl Crawford to the team's success.

    CRAWBURY equals tandem. Of course other factors are at play. AGONE being the primary one. But how much would his hits mean if the table-setters weren't getting on base?

    If you separate CRAWBURY, it's almost like ripping a dollar in half.
    The value of each individual isn't as potent as the tandem.

    With both clicking, the team has responded in proportion.
     
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    In Response to Re: The CRAWBURY Highway:
    [QUOTE]tan·dem (t n d m) n. 1. A two-wheeled carriage drawn by horses harnessed one before the other. 2. A team of carriage horses harnessed in single file. 3. A tandem bicycle. 4. An arrangement of two or more persons or objects placed one behind the other: driving horses in tandem. adj. Having two identical components arranged one behind the other: a tandem axle. A team of horses - not two. Varitek Salty Lowrie AGon Ellsbury Crawford Youk Papi Bucholz Beckett Lester Papelbon A dozen horses for the tandem. Yes a team tandem.
    Posted by Your-Echo[/QUOTE]

    This one hits home.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The CRAWBURY Highway : This one hits home.
    Posted by harness[/QUOTE]I reckoned you'd like that one. So my question is, will the Red Sox draw off?
     
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    [QUOTE]I didn't see any coincidence. Am I missing something? Plus, have we seen the tandem back-to-back yet?
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    Where they hit in the line-up isn't really the issue, Moon.
    It's the effect they have on team success/failure.
     
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    Carnie: I don't think they'll draw off. I say this for two reasons:

    1) The offense lately is masking depth issues in the pen. Had Hill not gone down, I'd think differently. If Bard is well-complimented and if he improves in high-level situations, and the team stays relatively healthy, then they'll be a real force.
    I just don't see Jenks/Wheeler cutting it in the 8th. And this lefty 'specialist' we have looks like the 2nd coming of Lopez.

    2) The O's have changed the dynamics of the division. What once was ''free wins from Fenway South" is anything but. That alone could easily create a 7-8 win differential compared to when we used to have them for lunch.

    In those years, the team was winning 95 games. Now, they  have to beat others to compensate. I felt the 2009 team was capable of 100 wins.
    The division is more competitive now. If this team wins over 94-95 games, I'll be very pleasantly surprised.
     
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    Where they hit in the line-up isn't really the issue, Moon.
    It's the effect they have on team success/failure.

    OK, I just don't see any real "coincidence" othr than Jacoby is doing very well and everyone else but maybe Drew and Jed are doing better.
     
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    That's the whole point, Moon.
    My stating Some coincidence, eh?
    was meant for those who feel CRAWBURY does not impact this team profoundly.
     
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    Crawford   2011 Cost 20M  BA .246 OBP .279  SB 8 CS 4  66%

    A very expensive highway with a lot of giant potholes

    AGon and Ortiz are the ones who are carrying the offense. Just about impossible to replace what they have done in 2011 to date.
     
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    AGONE/ORTIZ have been the foundation of this offense.
    Crawbury gives what would otherwise be a station-to-station offense another dimension.

    Your seasonal numbers with CC carry no weight here.
    The OP clearly shows the CRAWBURY factor, month by month.
    And the team has reacted accordingly, in both directions.
     
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    [QUOTE]Where they hit in the line-up isn't really the issue, Moon . It's the effect they have on team success/failure. OK, I just don't see any real "coincidence" othr than Jacoby is doing very well and everyone else but maybe Drew and Jed are doing better.
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    One other thing, Moon. It's not just Drew/Jed. The team has lost only one game this month, yet Youk is only hitting .226 in June (n/i last game in Toronto).

    Pedey only hit .227 in May, yet the team won 19 games.

    Team record strongly reflects the success of AGONE/PAPI in contingent with CRAWBURY.
     
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    "Ells, AGon and Ortiz are the ones who are carrying the offense. Just about impossible to replace what they have done in 2011 to date."

    ^^^ FYP (fixed your post).
     
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    Op clearly does shows that "Crawbury" "Factor" are not carrying the offense. Simply look at AGon and Ortiz, and ignore the sideshow with one big pothole from one month to the next. 
     
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    OP shows direct correlation to team record.
    Same can be said for AGONE/PAPI.

    AGONE/PAPI won't be nearly as effective without CRAWBURY clicking.
    It becomes more of a stationary offense otherwise.
     
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    Ellsbury and Crawford are not carrying the offense, but they sure are helping.  Ortiz has one more rbi and one more run scored than Youkilis, so I find it hard to put Big Papi in the same category as Adrian Gonzalez.  Even Gonzalez isn't carrying the team, but he has, in my book, been the AL MVP to date.  While I love his batting average and rbi's, I also like his ability to hit to the opposite field, which I think has caused Ortiz to do more of that this year than ever before--to good effect, especially against lefties.

    What I don't understand is why Drew won't hit to the opposite field. 
     
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    If AGONE isn't carrying this team, he's doing a damn good imitation!
    He allows the team leverage. The CRAWBURY tandem gives them an added dimension, which enhances the AGONE/PAPI duo.
     
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    Nothing stationary about AGon and Ortiz hitting homers and gaps. Even .200's OBP guys like Crawford can score in front of that.

     
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