Re: The Essence of Timmy Wakefield: As Articulated by A Poster From Another Site
posted at 6/8/2011 11:53 PM EDT
In Response to The Essence of Timmy Wakefield: As Articulated by A Poster From Another Site
[QUOTE]rain4wayne (signed in using Yahoo) Please tell me why getting the Sox' wins record is considered a significant achievement, when he is already, BY FAR, the team's all-time leader in losses - not to mention runs allowed, hits allowed, doubles allowed, extra-base hits allowed, home runs allowed, walks allowed, wild pitches, hits batsmen, etc.? Longevity statistics are meaningless if they represent mediocrity in one's career
. He's a great guy, great teammate, great citizen. On any given day, his results are a crap shoot - hit or miss, sink or swim . I hope he gets the record because that means the Red Sox won those games - and that is all that matters. But stressing the wins record while disregarding the fact that he holds just about every negative pitching record in team history misrepresents his true career accomplishment level . Like · Reply · about an hour ago My only comment is that Tim Wakefield is being babied in his role. He is not able to produce the workload of a pen arm or a starter. In either role, he is not able to handle the workload that these jobs require. This exercise has been one that is one of an accomadating ceremonial role in pursuing a longevity record. There are other options with young players that are not being considered. Wakefield is at the stage of his caeer where he's needed a booster seat since the last of 2009. If the Bulls returned Jordan to the roster for 10 minutes a half stints after a week off, it would be good for Jordan's cumulative points record chase of KAJ, but it would not be a proper use of the roster spot. Jordan most certainly could still provide segments of quality work, but baseball is a sport that, to a flaw, pays too much attention to cumaltive records of quantity over quality. The media has to sell the product, it's a self-interest, so fluff articles about Wakefield have been going on for a long time. As to Jeter, he's reached the age and physical condition where he should now beging the transition to another role besides everydyay SS. This should be his final year in the everyday role in that spot, to be generous.
Posted by betterredthandead[/QUOTE]
This poster is kidding, right?
Little baseball trivia for you all.
MLB's all time Loss leader? Cy Young (316)
MLB's all time hits allowed leader? Cy Young (7,092)
MLB's all time leader for earned runs allowed? Cy Young (2,147) Boy, that Cy Young guy must have been awful, huh?
MLB's all time leader for walks issued? Nolan Ryan (2,795 - over 900 more than second place Steve Carlton. Boy, I bet those two had trouble getting people out.)
Being the all time leader in a negative cumulative category is impossible to do for a player having an average career. You have to have been good enough to stick around long enough to get the bad statistics as well.
This doesn't make Wakefield a great pitcher. It just adds some perspective to that argument in the orignal post.