The Essence of Timmy Wakefield: As Articulated by A Poster From Another Site

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    OK. GUESS WHO ARE SECOND AND THIRD IN MOST OF THOSE CATAGORIES AS WELL. ROGER CLEMENS AND CY YOUNG. THOSE STATS MEAN NOTHING. HE HAS THE SECOND MOST GAMES AND MOST GAME STARTS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPAIR STATS YOU NEED TO TAKE ALL OF THEM INTO ACCOUNT


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    "I thought we were going to have to need a wheelbarrow to get him off the field," manager Terry Francona said
     
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    Re: The Essence of Timmy Wakefield: As Articulated by A Poster From Another Site

    Wilber Wood won 20 as a knuckler-baller.
    Wilber Wood lost 20 as a knuckleballer.

    Softlaw is lost. Period.
     
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    No, Notin, as you point out, Wakefield sharing dubior cumalitive record with other great pitchers does not make his career in a class with great pitchers. He is in a class of pitchers who have had long mediocre careers, the antithesis of the great Koufax. He's been kept around since the true wash up in the 2nd of 2009. To do so, they have had to deal with him like the old guy he is. Since being moved into the rotation, he has had to be given booster chair days off between starts.

    Start 1 Had pitched one inning in 13 days prior to his first start (quality start)
    Start 2 5 days later Imploded
    Start 3 16 days later v. Cubs (quality start)
    Start 4 5 days later
    Start 5 5 days later (marginal and a loss)
    Start 6 7 days later (Poor 5.1 5 ER Win should go to Aceves)

    He's averaging a week of squatting time between starts, and did not look good performance wise or physically in his last start. My hope is the ball in another 5 days, not 7 days.

    His ERA is 4.84 in 2011, and over 5 since 2nd half of 2009

    Pretty clear that Wakefield's only role would be in the rotation, but he's no physically capable of being in the rotation. DFA or DL him before the oldest player in baseball really hurts himself, and call-up Doubrant before it gets uglier.  
     
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    Not a fair bet. And I don't want you to retire your character, he's NY's finest and reflects the fine people in his district. Let's do this. If Tim Wastefield pitches 6 complete innings and is charged with 3 runs or less, I will agree to say that the week off was just the booster chair that Timmy needed.
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    yes, 51% of new yorkers want me to stay.
     
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    Yup.
     
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    Had JD Drew been charged with an error (he should have for his poor jump on the ball, he also caught a ball similar the night before for Lester), the ERA would have been just 2 runs charged to Wakefield WHILE HE WAS IN THE GAME....inherited runner scored when Tito did his usual panic job in pulling Wakefield early (also check the video and watch Varitek say something to Francona, but Francona shuts him down angrily..it was Tek saying no reason to pull him this early, and Francona saying I've made up my mind, stop it...)....Wakefield is a 6 inn SP because of Francona, and ERAs for 6 inn pitchers will always be 5 or high 4s if you give up a few runs, or a few inherited runners score....Aceves is a great talent, and I'm glad he got the 5-4-3 DP, but if he gives up a hit there, it's another run charged to Wakefield. Thus my point of who cares about ERA??? It's about winning. d'uh winning....Sox won, everyone happy. Except for softbetteroffdead
     
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    As for being on a regular rotation, don't forget for 1 day Wakefield was told his start was "skipped" and then it was changed back with Clay being pushed back. There is rarely a time where Wakefield can feel like the other 4 starters when it comes to will he or won't he get his next start. It's always going to be this way for Tim, and I think he has pitched extraordinary under those circumstances. No way would a John Lackey perform with the knowledge he could be skipped or thrown into the bullpen on a moment's notice. You all should be embracing Wakefield (who am I kidding, it's just this moronredsoftdead doing the anti-Timmy brigade here).
     
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    Hardly a hit by pitch there prior to the 3-2 walk with a fly ball in between. I don't think Tim was in trouble, but Tito again treats him as if he's going to fall apart before he falls apart. Like I said, if the pen throws well, so be it.

     
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    who gave him the 16 days off? the manager, not Wakefield.
     
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    Why anyone responds to the original poster is beyond me.
     
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    Just like Slackey, blaming the earned runs on Drew and Aceves. Wastefield was what the stat box says he wasy, poor!

    Aceves gets the real win, in any rational minded book. I doubt anyone with reason would claim that King Felix's performance was all about "winning" as in his "W-L" record. Get a grip, Wastefield is bad.

     
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