The John Lackey Thread

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    Lackey keeps saying the ball comes out of his hand good.     The hitters fully agree with him.
     
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    So, what i am understanding from general sentiment in this tough time:  if Lackey falters tonight he should be ... released?  traded?  And the same thing with Dice-K.  And of course Wakefield shouldn't even have been on the roster to begin with.  I'm all for it.  Sure hope Andrew Miller is ready to go!  We're gonna need some pitchers when the axe comes down on these bums. 
     
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    you lost me at "after ONE start followed by a terrible one" did you mean after one start followING a terrible one" by chance? youre bashing lackey after 2 starts after you said sunday you wont pass judgment until after 3. was that because you painted yourself into a corner with all your beckett bashing and his stellar performance was just his second? 
     
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    In Response to Re: The John Lackey Thread : 3 Outings and if his ERA hit 20, DUMP HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Posted by andrewmitch


    Also, he would have to give up more than 10 runs in 5 innings for his ERA to climb over 20 night, so I'm still not sure where that 4 runs over 5 innings came from.

    Take a deep breath, clear your head and try to think things through.
     
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    I wonder if Lackey is hurt and he is just concealing an injury.  Between Lackey and Dice K the bullpen will be done sometime in May. 

     
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    In Response to Re: The John Lackey Thread : 2-9.....how many positives do you see?
    Posted by andrewmitch


    2 positives.

    9 negatives.

    Was this a trick question?
     
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    What we have here is just a friendly little inside competition.

    Even though both are stubborn, sooner or later, either LAckey or Dice-K will admit that they aren't as grossly incompetant as the other.  Right now, however, the game is on to see who can be the Best at being Worst.
     
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    John Lackey was paid to come in and be a #1 or #2 top of the rotation starter. He's a bust. Best case, he'll be a marginal #4 starter. Let's hope we get that, as he's been pitiful in his early starts.
     
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    Diamond talk... that was a good one! "Lackey keeps saying, "the ball is coming out of my hand good." And the hitters agree with him.

    Seriously, in these difficult days I need to remember 2004. Keep the faith! These are the Redsox fellas. My mom keeps telling me this. They will put you on the verge of cardiac arrest and then, BAM! Redsox come alive. We have seen them rise from the dead in years past. Why ought we not to believe they can do it again?
     
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    In Response to Re: The John Lackey Thread : Because we got no Pedro or Schil this time around.....
    Posted by andrewmitch


    I'd take it a step further.  We need more than a Pedro or Schill to get it going this time.  Beckett's last outing was Pedroesque, and Lester isn't far off from Schilling (when he was with Boston).
     
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    In Response to Re: The John Lackey Thread : You'd be far better served to stop the personal attacks.   Until then good luck to you.
    Posted by andrewmitch


    Personal attacks?  I'm simply telling you that you need to finish learning some basic things, such as applying lessons which you have clearly learned to other, similar situations.  I promise, once you are able to see the connections between occurrences, you will be a far happier person.  After all, I'm not the person ready to throw out $61M because of 2 or potentially 3 bad starts.
     
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    If this guy can't go 5+ Innings without allowing fewer than 4 Runs I think it's time to seriously reconsider the John Lackey experiment.  IE Something drastic should at least be considered. Let's give him a chance tonight but man, this guy is on thin ice and every baserunner he allows could certainly be his last IMO; or should I say if I were the decision-maker.  I'd hate to be pitching under these circumstances too but then again, I am not the one with an ERA rapididly approaching 20.00 !!!!
    Posted by andrewmitch




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    Uh huh...So you think Beckett is 100% back now?  After ONE start followed by a terrible one?  Let's see what he does his next start. And in case you didn't get the memo, we have the worst starting pitching in the league - BY FAR; it's not even close. And as per usual, thank you so much for sharing with the world your "gold standard" for what a "real fan" is.  Horse - High - Get Off!!!!!!!!
    Posted by andrewmitch


    Firing on all cylandars Andrew.
     
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    What we have here is just a friendly little inside competition. Even though both are stubborn, sooner or later, either LAckey or Dice-K will admit that they aren't as grossly incompetant as the other.  Right now, however, the game is on to see who can be the Best at being Worst.
    Posted by SleeStack1


    What's the score now between Beckett and Lackey?
     
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    Andrew,

      I won't lie.  I was most pleased to see Lackey get on track last evening.

      But I also won't lie, I expected it fairly soon.  Not necessarily last night, but soon.

      I know you are aware of the fact the season has 162 regular season games.  And each of the 5 starters will get 30-33 starts, barring injury. 

      I don't see how, even with maybe a few bad starts early, that you give up so easily.

      Are the bad games frustrating?  Of course.

      Are they cause for such negative focus?  No.  The way you call things, countless big leadgue players would be gone ...  It is a game of surges, streaks, and such.  

      Heck, the way you see things, St Louis should have dumped Pujols after his slow start.  He's hot (or heating up) now, but he started historically slow for him.

     
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    posted at 4/24/2011 6:45 PM EDT
    losmediasrojas
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    In Response to The John Lackey Thread:
    If this guy can't go 5+ Innings without allowing fewer than 4 Runs I think it's time to seriously reconsider the John Lackey experiment.  IE Something drastic should at least be considered. Let's give him a chance tonight but man, this guy is on thin ice and every baserunner he allows could certainly be his last IMO; or should I say if I were the decision-maker.  I'd hate to be pitching under these circumstances too but then again, I am not the one with an ERA rapididly approaching 20.00 !!!!
    Posted by andrewmitch




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