The Man or the Pitch?

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    Don't blame Wakefield for the personal catcher thing. It was created by the FO/Manager to make sure Tek got rest every 5th game. It had nothing to do with the ability of Tek to catch him.
     
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    How can you not love Wakefield!

    Remember this ALCS Game 5, October 18, 2004 vs Yankees?

    Sheffield struck out leading off the 13th but reached on a passed ball, and two more passed balls by Varitek on Wakefield's knuckler left runners on second and third.

    But after the ball nearly got away from Varitek again, popping out of the catcher's glove but staying near the plate, Wakefield struck out Ruben Sierra on a 70 mph knuckler, leaving the Yankees 1-for-13 with runners in scoring position. Wakefield, the loser in Game 7, last year, followed with a 1-2-3 14th.


    Wakefield is remembered for giving up the home run to Aaron "F'ing" Boone the previous year but how many of you remember Wake starting and winning games 1 and 4 of that series?
     
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    [QUOTE]It's the pitch, with the passed balls, wild pitches, patches where he can't get a called strike that drives some fans nuts. But any 52% PCT pitcher with a career ERA in the 4's is going to catch grief from some percentage of the fan base.
    Posted by fivekatz[/QUOTE]


    Esecially from fans who don't understand how tough it is to pitch in the A.L. East for 16 years.

    You know, fans who don't comprehend what it's like for a flyball pitcher to pitch half his games at Fenway Park.

    Fans who can't take the time to acknowledge how his numbers would equate in a lesser league - in a larger park.

    These are the fans who are stuck on seeing one side of the pitcher...one side of the pitch.
     
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    Sooooo glad Wakefield is having the year he's having. When I said we would beat King Felix everyone probably thought I was nuts. Wake did just that. I think some people want to believe the worst. He seems to have come in this year wanting to prove them wrong. And, again, he's doing just that.

    Stop complaining and start enjoying what he's bringing this season for the Sox. He could be thier biggest weapon against teams that aren't familiar with the knuckleball. Think about that.
     
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      WRONG on Ells.
    *  WRONG on Tek as a mentor / sub for Salty
    *  WRONG on Lowrie
    *  WRONG on Crawford
    *  WRONG on J.D. Drew
    *  WRONG on Wake

    Right on "Ells". Weak defender with weak metrics and a career OBP that isn't impressive for a speed slap hitter. Benefits from AGon, and would be exposed on a weak offensive team.

    Right on Tek being a weak defensive catcher and hitter and right that Salty needed to start the year in AAA and VMart should have been joined with a solid defensive catcher backup.

    Right on pretzel constitution and free falling Lowrie, the butcher SS with weak hitting v. RHP and falling to career numbers v. LHP. 

    Right on .280's OBP and 8 steals vs. 4 CS 20Million dollar value bust Crawford

    Right on Drew, best outfield defender on the team who is in his mid 30's and likely last year because he won't have to be kicked out of baseball like Varitek and Wakefield are getting ready to be kicked out

    Right on 5 plus ERA since 2nd half of 2009 duck waddle to cover 1st and run the bases freely Wastefield

      
     
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    [QUOTE]  WRONG on Ells. *  WRONG on Tek as a mentor / sub for Salty *  WRONG on Lowrie *  WRONG on Crawford *  WRONG on J.D. Drew *  WRONG on Wake Right on "Ells". Weak defender with weak metrics and a career OBP that isn't impressive for a speed slap hitter. Benefits from AGon, and would be exposed on a weak offensive team. Right on Tek being a weak defensive catcher and hitter and right that Salty needed to start the year in AAA and VMart should have been joined with a solid defensive catcher backup. Right on pretzel constitution and free falling Lowrie, the butcher SS with weak hitting v. RHP and falling to career numbers v. LHP.  Right on .280's OBP and 8 steals vs. 4 CS 20Million dollar value bust Crawford Right on Drew, best outfield defender on the team who is in his mid 30's and likely last year because he won't have to be kicked out of baseball like Varitek and Wakefield are getting ready to be kicked out Right on 5 plus ERA since 2nd half of 2009 duck waddle to cover 1st and run the bases freely Wastefield   
    Posted by betterredthandead[/QUOTE]

    YOU personify the word NARCISSIST!

    YOU say it.....  Ipso facto....  It must be true!   :)

    There are programs for these types of problems :)

    KEEP TALKING....  YOU set 'em up....  YOU knock 'em down...  Sox players keep on rolling!!!!!   :)

    YOU are the ultimate Yankee fan!  Always flapping your gums......  Consistently looking stupid!   :)
     
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    I don't suffer from knuckleball bigotry. I also happen to like other types of "junkball" pitchers who get by on their wiles. Any, I repeat, any type of pitch can be slammed for a game winning home run. The faster the pitch comes in, the faster it sometimes leaves the yard. The art of pitching is about keeping the batter off balance and guessing. The knuckleball can do that. Many a great power pitcher has grooved a pitch that gets clobbered. You can take any single at bat and say it proves the weakness of a certain type of pitch or pitcher. Knuckleball bigots just don't get the fun of the knuckleball. It's their loss.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The Man or the Pitch? :  I hear you about the teaching at the major league level.  But, as to the Papi and Youk hitting issues, hitting is always much easier to identify problems with, much harder to fix.  I'm sure Youk and Mags have analyzed many things about what he is doing, mechanically and mentally, including his wrist action.  That, in my eyes, is a little different than Ellsbury learning to work leads and jumps properly.   Hitting has so many variable elements that all must come together in less than a blink of an eye.  Youk struggling is not because he does not know what is going on.  Ells on the basepaths and in the field is.
    Posted by SpacemanEephus[/QUOTE]

    Thank for the input. Hitting is something that must be worked on a daily basis. All hitters have a tendency to want to pull the ball, because that's where the power is. But you're right you don't have a whole lot of time to make adjustments on a 90+ mph, and it's very hard to correct bad habits. A perfect example is a golf swing....easy to identify, hard to correct.
     
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