The New Golden Outfield

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    The New Golden Outfield

    I can see it now! The new Golden Outfield (for you kids, the first one goes back to 1910 and consisted of Lewis Speaker and Hooper). The first picture taken will have Castillo in a bear-hug with David Ortiz, and the second will be with Cespedes and Mookie. They'll put it on shirts before he even has a uniform (make that a hat), and MLB.com will market them for $300 (XLG a little more). The difference in attendance money, alone. for the remainder of the year will allow us to resign Lester. GO SOX!


    Darn right, I'll be watching; may even buy a shirt!

     
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    Victorino in RF

    Castillo in CF

    Cepedes in LF

     

    Craig, nava, and Holt on Bench with Ross and Betts

    Napoli at 1B

    Pedroia at 2B

    Bogaerts at SS or 3B

    ????? at SS or 3B

    Vazquez at C

     

    Leaves us short at SS/3B, and 2 SP slots.  Bradley, Betts, and 1-3 young pitchers available via trade.

     

    Alot of work to do, but the assets in place to make it happen

     

     

     
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    In response to fl+adam,'s comment:

    Victorino in RF

    Castillo in CF

    Cepedes in LF

     

    Craig, nava, and Holt on Bench with Ross and Betts

    Napoli at 1B

    Pedroia at 2B

    Bogaerts at SS or 3B

    ????? at SS or 3B

    Vazquez at C

     

    Leaves us short at SS/3B, and 2 SP slots.  Bradley, Betts, and 1-3 young pitchers available via trade.

     

    Alot of work to do, but the assets in place to make it happen

     

     




    Swap out Victorino and replace with Betts. Shane is done. Have you forgotten that Betts is the RS No. 1 prospect? Or don't you like the name?

     
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    In response to bosoxmal's comment:

    In response to fl+adam,'s comment:

    Victorino in RF

    Castillo in CF

    Cepedes in LF

     

    Craig, nava, and Holt on Bench with Ross and Betts

    Napoli at 1B

    Pedroia at 2B

    Bogaerts at SS or 3B

    ????? at SS or 3B

    Vazquez at C

     

    Leaves us short at SS/3B, and 2 SP slots.  Bradley, Betts, and 1-3 young pitchers available via trade.

     

    Alot of work to do, but the assets in place to make it happen

     

     




    Swap out Victorino and replace with Betts. Shane is done. Have you forgotten that Betts is the RS No. 1 prospect? Or don't you like the name?




    How could anyone even have Injurino on next year's roster at all?  It's hard to even count of Craig right now but Injurino has been done.  I've been saying that for months now.  Of course, the "die hards" continue to bash me for it.  But they'll learn.  It always takes forever but eventually, most are able to face reality.....

     
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    Victorino may or may not be done. We don't really know. The Red Sox certainly shouldn't rely on him. If he's healthy, though, a big if, granted, he probably should be the starting right-fielder.

    I'd like to see the Red Sox sign Hanley Ramirez for 3B.

     

    CF Castillo

    RF Victorino

    2B Pedroia

    DH Ortiz

    LF Cespedes

    3B Ramirez

    1B Napoli

    SS Bogaerts

    C Vazquez

    If Victorino is injured, plug Betts at the top of the order.

    Bench: C Ross, 1B/OF Craig, 1B/OF Nava, INF/OF Holt, OF Bradley Jr.

    Not all of these guys could be on the roster at once, but in all likelihood, somebody would be injured or traded, and a few of these guys could also play in AAA.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    In response to davidap's comment:

    Victorino may or may not be done. We don't really know. The Red Sox certainly shouldn't rely on him. If he's healthy, though, a big if, granted, he probably should be the starting right-fielder.

    I'd like to see the Red Sox sign Hanley Ramirez for 3B.

     

    CF Castillo

    RF Victorino

    2B Pedroia

    DH Ortiz

    LF Cespedes

    3B Ramirez

    1B Napoli

    SS Bogaerts

    C Vazquez

    If Victorino is injured, plug Betts at the top of the order.

    Bench: C Ross, 1B/OF Craig, 1B/OF Nava, INF/OF Holt, OF Bradley Jr.

    Not all of these guys could be on the roster at once, but in all likelihood, somebody would be injured or traded, and a few of these guys could also play in AAA.

     

     

     

     

     




    you say the Sox shouldn't count him Injurino yet you insert him as your #2 hitter next year?

     

    PS - repeat after me: "Dustin Pedroia is NOT a #3 hitter.  Dustin Pedroia is NOT a #3 hitter"....one more time with spirit...........

     
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    I love the Castillo signing and how they structured it to count as 7 years not 6. This will help on the luxruy tax budget by about $2M a year for 6 years.

    I think if everyone is healthy, we will see:

    LF: Craig

    CF: Castillo

    RF: Cespedes

    but if Vic is playing like the healthy Vic of 2013, I suppose Craig could get bumped to the bench:

    LF: Cespedes

    CF: Castillo

    RF: Victorino

     

    This realy does change the outlook of some of our young outfielders or future outfielders. 

    1) I can't see the point in trying to push Bogey, Cecchini or Middy to the OF, unless we unload 2-3 OF'ers or utility players from Craig, Victorino, Nava, JBJ, Betts, Holt.

    2) With frequent injuries projected or possible for Vic and Craig, we might want to hold onto 2 of the others, and if Holt is given a shot at winning the 3B job, there will be all the more reason to keep 2 from Nava, JBJ and Betts

    No matter how you look at it, at least one OF needs to go. (Note: we could trade Napoli and move Craig to 1B, where he may stay healthier.)

    Sox4ever

     
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    In response to andrewmitch's comment:

    In response to bosoxmal's comment:

    In response to fl+adam,'s comment:

    Victorino in RF

    Castillo in CF

    Cepedes in LF

     

    Craig, nava, and Holt on Bench with Ross and Betts

    Napoli at 1B

    Pedroia at 2B

    Bogaerts at SS or 3B

    ????? at SS or 3B

    Vazquez at C

     

    Leaves us short at SS/3B, and 2 SP slots.  Bradley, Betts, and 1-3 young pitchers available via trade.

     

    Alot of work to do, but the assets in place to make it happen

     

     




    Swap out Victorino and replace with Betts. Shane is done. Have you forgotten that Betts is the RS No. 1 prospect? Or don't you like the name?




    How could anyone even have Injurino on next year's roster at all?  It's hard to even count of Craig right now but Injurino has been done.  I've been saying that for months now.  Of course, the "die hards" continue to bash me for it.  But they'll learn.  It always takes forever but eventually, most are able to face reality.....



    Actually, juding from the response you have been getting lately, I think most people only bash you now for your repeated self-congratulatory posts.  No one appears to take anything else you say seriously enough to comment on it.

     
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    Why not Craig at 1st, Napoli to back up catcher/1B, Ross gone as free agent?

     
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    Why not Craig at 1st, Napoli to back up catcher/1B, Ross gone as free agent?




    there is no plan for Naps to ever even think about putting on the catcher's gear again

     
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    In response to notin's comment:

    In response to andrewmitch's comment:

    In response to bosoxmal's comment:

    In response to fl+adam,'s comment:

    Victorino in RF

    Castillo in CF

    Cepedes in LF

     

    Craig, nava, and Holt on Bench with Ross and Betts

    Napoli at 1B

    Pedroia at 2B

    Bogaerts at SS or 3B

    ????? at SS or 3B

    Vazquez at C

     

    Leaves us short at SS/3B, and 2 SP slots.  Bradley, Betts, and 1-3 young pitchers available via trade.

     

    Alot of work to do, but the assets in place to make it happen

     

     




    Swap out Victorino and replace with Betts. Shane is done. Have you forgotten that Betts is the RS No. 1 prospect? Or don't you like the name?




    How could anyone even have Injurino on next year's roster at all?  It's hard to even count of Craig right now but Injurino has been done.  I've been saying that for months now.  Of course, the "die hards" continue to bash me for it.  But they'll learn.  It always takes forever but eventually, most are able to face reality.....



    Actually, juding from the response you have been getting lately, I think most people only bash you now for your repeated self-congratulatory posts.  No one appears to take anything else you say seriously enough to comment on it.




    no one likes to be wrong - especially when it's me pointing it out - repeatedly.  i get that.  no big deal over here for me. 

     
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    let's not get ahead of ourselves

    1) Cespedes is a free agent after next year

    2)  Craig can't stay healthy and has been in decline

    3)  Castillio has never played a ML game

    4) Injurino is toast

    5)  JBJ is a 4th OFer, perhaps a 5th OF on a WSC caliber team (as per 2013)

    hate to burst your bubbles but not one of you has prepared for the worst-case scenario which would be something like Betts/JBJ/Castillo w/ Holt backing them up

     
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    I think Craig's foot injury last year has been a Big problem this year. Before that injury last year, he was one of the games best Clutch hitters. He had better numbers in the Minors than Tavares and the Cards are high on that kid, and he's struggling.

     
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    I think Craig's foot injury last year has been a Big problem this year. Before that injury last year, he was one of the games best Clutch hitters. He had better numbers in the Minors than Tavares and the Cards are high on that kid, and he's struggling.




    so much checking medical records before making a trade

     
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    In response to fl+adam,'s comment:

    Victorino in RF

    Castillo in CF

    Cepedes in LF

     

    Craig, nava, and Holt on Bench with Ross and Betts

    Napoli at 1B

    Pedroia at 2B

    Bogaerts at SS or 3B

    ????? at SS or 3B

    Vazquez at C

     

    Leaves us short at SS/3B, and 2 SP slots.  Bradley, Betts, and 1-3 young pitchers available via trade.

     

    Alot of work to do, but the assets in place to make it happen

     

     

    Victorino is DONE....   where is HOLT ??


     
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    let's not get ahead of ourselves

    1) Cespedes is a free agent after next year

     

    That's a good point, since Victorino's contract is also a FA after next year

    1) frees up salary space which can affect signings for next year

    2) OF prospects have time to develop

     

     

     
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    In response to andrewmitch's comment:

    In response to crazy-world-of-troybrown's comment:

    I think Craig's foot injury last year has been a Big problem this year. Before that injury last year, he was one of the games best Clutch hitters. He had better numbers in the Minors than Tavares and the Cards are high on that kid, and he's struggling.




    so much checking medical records before making a trade



    Maybe, just maybe, the Sox medical staff thought that his foot would heal in time for next season, as that trade was clearly made with the future in mind.  

     
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    I can see it now! The new Golden Outfield (for you kids, the first one goes back to 1910 and consisted of Lewis Speaker and Hooper). The first picture taken will have Castillo in a bear-hug with David Ortiz, and the second will be with Cespedes and Mookie. They'll put it on shirts before he even has a uniform (make that a hat), and MLB.com will market them for $300 (XLG a little more). The difference in attendance money, alone. for the remainder of the year will allow us to resign Lester. GO SOX!

     

    Darn right, I'll be watching; may even buy a shirt!



    Attendance hasn't dropped. The paying fools apparently like this current team.

     
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    Stanton would look good out there too !!

     
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    In response to BogieAt12oclock's comment:

    In response to bosoxmal's comment:

    I can see it now! The new Golden Outfield (for you kids, the first one goes back to 1910 and consisted of Lewis Speaker and Hooper). The first picture taken will have Castillo in a bear-hug with David Ortiz, and the second will be with Cespedes and Mookie. They'll put it on shirts before he even has a uniform (make that a hat), and MLB.com will market them for $300 (XLG a little more). The difference in attendance money, alone. for the remainder of the year will allow us to resign Lester. GO SOX!

     

    Darn right, I'll be watching; may even buy a shirt!



    Attendance hasn't dropped. The paying fools apparently like this current team.




    Agreed.  I don't understand why they pay such HUGE ticket prices to see a minor league ball club.

     
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    Why not Craig at 1st, Napoli to back up catcher/1B, Ross gone as free agent?




    there is no plan for Naps to ever even think about putting on the catcher's gear again



    Hopefully by next year there's no plan to have NAPS wearing a RED SOX uniform.

     
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    I like Naps as a 6th slot batter, but right now, he looks to still be our clean-up hitter or 5 slot hitter.

    If we want Craig to stay healthy, he probably should DH. That slot is blocked, so 1B seems the next best place. His years of team control and contractual cost are much better than Napoli's, so I could see trying to deal Mike... not handing him away, but looking to move him for a helpful player or prospects that perhaps could be flipped for some top talent.

    What projected contenders need a 1Bman? Here are the worst 1Bman OPS of 2014:

    30) Houston

    29) Seattle

    28) Texas

    27) Minnesota

    26) Cincinatti

    25) Milwaukee

    24) Kansas City

    23) Philadelphia

    22) San Diego

    21) Cleveland

    20) Pittsburgh

    I'm not an expert on other teams' farm systems, so I do not know if any of these teams have any hot up and coming 1B prospects, but from the list above, I'd say possible trading partners might include Seattle, Milwaukee and Pittsburgh. Trading him to Pittsburgh would probably entail paying part of his contract, but with just 1 year left to go, it might not have to be much.

     

    Sox4ever

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    I like Naps as a 6th slot batter, but right now, he looks to still be our clean-up hitter or 5 slot hitter.

    If we want Craig to stay healthy, he probably should DH. That slot is blocked, so 1B seems the next best place. His years of team control and contractual cost are much better than Napoli's, so I could see trying to deal Mike... not handing him away, but looking to move him for a helpful player or prospects that perhaps could be flipped for some top talent.

    What projected contenders need a 1Bman? Here are the worst 1Bman OPS of 2014:

    30) Houston

    29) Seattle

    28) Texas

    27) Minnesota

    26) Cincinatti

    25) Milwaukee

    24) Kansas City

    23) Philadelphia

    22) San Diego

    21) Cleveland

    20) Pittsburgh

    I'm not an expert on other teams' farm systems, so I do not know if any of these teams have any hot up and coming 1B prospects, but from the list above, I'd say possible trading partners might include Seattle, Milwaukee and Pittsburgh. Trading him to Pittsburgh would probably entail paying part of his contract, but with just 1 year left to go, it might not have to be much.

     

    Sox4ever




    I think Craig at this point is best suited a 'super sub' for next year.  Napps is a excellent defender and he is a bigger threat at the plate in terms of working the count and 25 or more HR potential.  You gotta figure Vic will get injured, Napps will miss some time and Ortiz can get a few spells here and there.  I think the potential for 350-400 AB's is VERY possible for Craig.  Then in 2016 he can take over at 1B or RF and maybe DH (although I hope not)....

     
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    In response to bosoxmal's comment:

    I can see it now! The new Golden Outfield (for you kids, the first one goes back to 1910 and consisted of Lewis Speaker and Hooper). The first picture taken will have Castillo in a bear-hug with David Ortiz, and the second will be with Cespedes and Mookie. They'll put it on shirts before he even has a uniform (make that a hat), and MLB.com will market them for $300 (XLG a little more). The difference in attendance money, alone. for the remainder of the year will allow us to resign Lester. GO SOX!

     

    Darn right, I'll be watching; may even buy a shirt!



    The new Golden OF if the Sox can pull it off will feature Castillo in CF and Stanton in RF with any number of possibilities in LF.

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:


    I like Naps as a 6th slot batter, but right now, he looks to still be our clean-up hitter or 5 slot hitter.


    If we want Craig to stay healthy, he probably should DH. That slot is blocked, so 1B seems the next best place. His years of team control and contractual cost are much better than Napoli's, so I could see trying to deal Mike... not handing him away, but looking to move him for a helpful player or prospects that perhaps could be flipped for some top talent.


    What projected contenders need a 1Bman? Here are the worst 1Bman OPS of 2014:


    30) Houston


    29) Seattle


    28) Texas


    27) Minnesota


    26) Cincinatti


    25) Milwaukee


    24) Kansas City


    23) Philadelphia


    22) San Diego


    21) Cleveland


    20) Pittsburgh


    I'm not an expert on other teams' farm systems, so I do not know if any of these teams have any hot up and coming 1B prospects, but from the list above, I'd say possible trading partners might include Seattle, Milwaukee and Pittsburgh. Trading him to Pittsburgh would probably entail paying part of his contract, but with just 1 year left to go, it might not have to be much.


     


    Sox4ever




    The minor leagues are devoid of first base talent.  Any team that has a homegrown first baseman probably has that guy in the outfield or at 3B right now.


    Seattle has D.J. Peterson at 3B, who has a decent chance to hit but his glove does not look great at all, he is a candidate to move to 1B but he might not be ready or an everyday player for another year or 2.  But if they believe in him sticking at 3rd they could be an option.  Even if a move to first is going to happen Napoli could represent a nice bridge for them. 


    Milwaukee has no corner infielders in their system.  Their outfield prospects have good speed, good arms and aren't likely to make that move and they have a couple athletic SS so I don't see anyone who fits the profile to make that move.  I highly doubt they have the first baseman of their future in their system. 


    Pittsburgh - I don't know what level of interest they would have but they don't really have any corner infield talent in their system.  They are stacked with a couple high end pitching prospects at the top followed by a few intriguing guys in the outfield.  


    All things considered, all three teams could potentially have interest in Napoli. 


     


     

     
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