The Offense was / is no problem

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    Excerpt from Over the Monster ( Marc Normandin):

    There are plenty of things that can be argued regarding the 2011 Red Sox. How well they hit is not one of them. Up through early August, the Red Sox were threatening to be the top offensive club in the last 50 years, beating out even the Big Red Machine of the 70s and the 1982 Brewers, a club that featured so much hitting that Hall of Famer Paul Molitor looked pretty ordinary in the lineup.

    Of course, then Kevin Youkilis was injured. He played with these injuries for a while before finally giving in, but not before damaging the Red Sox' bottom line on both sides of the ball. Josh Reddick hurt his hand, and eventually required surgery: his performance before year's end helped tank his numbers and those of the team's as well. These led to the Red Sox having an impressive offense, but not quite at the historic boundaries they sat at with a little more than a month of the season to go.


     
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    Yes.  Boston Redsox offense was/is the best in the majors.  And our #1 priority is a solid starter or two who can replace Lackey and Dice-K and it won't be that hard of a job to replace them.  I would be very happy to see Ben landing Oswalt. 

    However, one of the small problem last year was our OFs.  We had too many lefties out there and no one to back them up effectively against the lefty pitchers.  I'm not saying our OFs were horrible against lefties.  But the problem starts if one of them gets injured or one or two LHB OFs start to have difficulties hitting against lefties.  Isn't it better to back them up with RHB instead of another lefty?  That's the point of Sox trying to get a RHB who can be an impact.  We will start the season with 4 lefty OFs again next season.  If we can get an effective RHB out there by giving up one LHB, then I think it's a good deal IMO. 

     
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    Agree with you all that the offense was great last year, but in someway, they are still too lefties.  And also they struggled a bit in the month of September due to that they have to faced so many September call up left handing pitchers especially the left handed bullpen pitchers!!  That was why we all saw that Boston couldnt make a come back in late innings.  
     
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    Having been involved with baseball for quite awhile, suggest that smart teams don't overemphasize scouting and drafting hitters who hit from either side.  Don't even need to list the great lefthanded hitters from Babe Ruth, Ted Williams etc. etc. the Red Sox have had, but I'd hate to think that Carl Yaz, Fred Lynn, Wade Boggs, Mo Vaughn, Jacoby Ellsbury just to name a few had not been developed in the Red Sox organization.  When Scouts look at young players, without question those scouts know that the Red Sox might well benefit should a Tony Conigliaro, Jim Rice, Carlton Fisk etc. be found, but to disgard the idea of drafting and signing a lefthanded hitter is a huge mistake.  We all know how effective a lefthanded hitter can be in Fenway Park.  Wade Boggs, Mo Vaughn and Adrian Gonzalez are 3 examples of lefthanded hitters who are skilled at using the leftfield wall. 
     
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    Reddick hit .202 in aUGUST, before HE GOT HURT.
    Nice excuses that have no basis in fact.
     
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    The Red Sox should generate plenty of runs even with Josh Reddick/Ryan Kalish in rightfield, Jose Iglesias at shortstop, Mike Aviles at thirdbase and Jarrod Saltalamacchia/Kelly Shoppach catching.

    It's the pitching that needs to be shored up.
     
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    In Response to Re: The Offense was / is no problem:
    [QUOTE]Reddick hit .202 in aUGUST, before HE GOT HURT. Nice excuses that have no basis in fact.
    Posted by GhostofTito[/QUOTE]

    Where did the author say that Reddick's statistics were directly tied to his wrist injury?

     Josh Reddick hurt his hand, and eventually required surgery: his performance before year's end helped tank his numbers and those of the team's as well.

     
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       The key to any success that the can attain in '12 is the bull-pen. A deep and reliable pen can bury a multiple of mistakes. In this day of 5 and 6 inning starters it can not be done with simply a set-up man and closer, a team needs 5 arms that consistently bring it on a nightly basis. The better the pen the better the manager.
     
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    The Red Sox O put up excellent overall numbers in 2011.  But there was something a little weird about it too, very much feast or famine.  They were shut out 11 times, which is much higher than usual for a Sox team (only shut out 4 times in 2010).

    In September they scored 146 runs in 27 games, which averages about 5.4 a game, right on the season average.  But 72 of the runs came in 5 games, only 74 in the other 22 games (3.4 per game).  A little weird.
     
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    If the Sox don't shore up their frontline pitching, it won't matter how many runs they score, the opposition will score more.  A great BP won't do much good if there is no lead to protect...or if the starting staff lives on the DL like it seems to every year.
     
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    Sure, there is nothing to worry about if Ellsbury and A-gon repeat their career years.
    Baseball is a game of averages and it is likely that both players will revert back to their norms much like pedroia did after his career year.  So there is plenty to worry about on offense.

     
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    If AGon and Ellsbury revert, what are they reverting to?  Both had other very good seasons, particularly AGon and players like Crawford have hit much better than he did in 2011, Youkilis was hurt, thus Kevin could very well have return to greater production, Saltalamacchia, the Rightfielder Reddick-Kalish-Linares or ? could very well be better, Kalish without injury, Reddick with more experience and Linares or RH hitting rightfielder could all be better, Lavarnway and Shoppach can make more contributions, particularly Lavarnway cause Ryan played on a limited basis and Kelly was a Ray.  I think it is very dangerous to look at the season depending on the production of only 2 players, regardless of who they are.
     
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    I really hate this stupid, ignorant, repetitive subject.  The 2011 Red Sox had the highest team OBP, the highest team SLG, and scored the most runs in all of baseball.....despite poor performances from LF, RF and an injured 3B. 

    What is wrong with people that see problems with that?  Did their parents give them h*ll on the toilet as toddlers?  Do they work in "The Office"? It's totally absurd. How much better than the best do the Sox batters have to be to stop the moaning?

    Also, though to a lesser extent, who cares if the Sox have an all-LHB outfield?  Ridiculous.  One might argue the Sox are overly-LHB although a) most pitchers are right-handed so I think teams should lean toward LHB players, and b) the Sox had the best offense in 2012....but it's only because Agon and Papi are lefties that people care about which side of the plate our RFs hit from.


     
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    [QUOTE]I really hate this stupid, ignorant, repetitive subject.  The 2011 Red Sox had the highest team OBP, the highest team SLG, and scored the most runs in all of baseball.....despite poor performances from LF, RF and an injured 3B.  What is wrong with people that see problems with that?  Did their parents give them h*ll on the toilet as toddlers?  Do they work in "The Office"? It's totally absurd. How much better than the best do the Sox batters have to be to stop the moaning? Also, though to a lesser extent, who cares if the Sox have an all-LHB outfield?  Ridiculous.  One might argue the Sox are overly-LHB although a) most pitchers are right-handed so I think teams should lean toward LHB players, and b) the Sox had the best offense in 2012....but it's only because Agon and Papi are lefties that people care about which side of the plate our RFs hit from.
    Posted by SonicsMonksLyresVicars[/QUOTE]

    Excelent post, welcome to the Internet.  Most posters are here to irritate you. They are not genuine Red Sox fans. They are here as a hobby / pasttime / fetish / obsession. They are here to fake genuine moaning / concern / and criticism. It is sad that the forum is being ruined by them but there is nothing that we can do about it. They WIN. NO Mas.
     
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    Scoring 4 or more runs in a game give your team a good chance to win. 
    5 or more is even better.

    2011:  4+  5+  6+
    Bos:   107  77  62
    NYY:   113  85  60
    Tex:    107  85  64


     
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    In Response to Re: The Offense was / is no problem:
    [QUOTE]Scoring 4 or more runs in a game give your team a good chance to win.  5 or more is even better. 2011:  4+  5+  6+ Bos:   107  77  62 NYY:   113  85  60 Tex:    107  85  64
    Posted by moonslav59[/QUOTE]

    The AL average runs scored per game per team last season was 4.42 (although if you the red sox offense out of the numbers, the average drops a bit).  Considering our weaker pitching staff, I wouldn't consider 4 runs to be the cut off for "a good chance to win".  

    Still interesting stuff though.  Time to improve the pitching staff........
     

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