Varitek probably doesn't score on the Ellsbury game-winning hit and might have been held at third. I'm not implying that it was a brilliant managerial move. It was just cool that an untypical substitution could be the margin of difference. Things like this make baseball great, especially when your team wins.
The pinchrunner made the difference
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The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 12:00 AM EDT
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Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 12:01 AM EDT
Yeah. You are right. WHat could be a minor change can be the difference. One never knows until it happens! I also felt that Tek wouldn't have made it on that hit, but it's pretty moot now. Good win. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 12:02 AM EDT
Cue the Tito haters! -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 12:03 AM EDT
I totally agree Sheriff.. Im no Tito apologist, and i disagree with some of his moves or lack there of, but I was saying on the game thread he made a few good moves tonite and they all worked out.. I agreed with him removing Beckett when he did because Josh warmed up twice as well! -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 12:09 AM EDT
And the Bogar haters should take notice. He challenged the Indians to make a clean play and they didn't. The throw isn't way up the 1B line Salty is dead at home. Let's keep that in mind the next time a team does make the perfect play to nail a guy at home.
I find myself saying this all over the place tonight. Percentages. The RS play percentages and situation. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 12:11 AM EDT
Actually I made a post a couple of seconds after you about the same topic. Tried to delete it.
Anyhows, is that the best the Sox can do in pinch running situations! And I'm far from being a negative dude.
Yeah it worked out, and yeah Salty was probably the fastest player on the bench, but sometimes you get bang-bang plays at home plate where speed can make the difference.
Yeah you can hate me.
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Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 12:17 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference:Actually I made a post a couple of seconds after you about the same topic. Tried to delete it. Anyhows, is is that the best the Sox can do in pinch running situations! And I'm far from being a negative dude. Yeah it worked out, and yeah Salty was probably the fastest player on the bench, but sometimes you get bang-bang plays at home plate where speed can make the difference. Yeah you can hate me.
Posted by The-dude
Tito had already used the bench because of Reddick for DMAC. Scutaro was available in case. It was the right move. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 12:21 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference:Actually I made a post a couple of seconds after you about the same topic. Tried to delete it. Anyhows, is is that the best the Sox can do in pinch running situations! And I'm far from being a negative dude. Yeah it worked out, and yeah Salty was probably the fastest player on the bench, but sometimes you get bang-bang plays at home plate where speed can make the difference. Yeah you can hate me.If Youk doesn't get tossed they'd have gone with Scoot I am sure and then put Salty in Avilles spot in the line-up.
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Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 12:27 AM EDT
Tito made the right decision. I'm not complaining about Tito. All I'm wondering is whether having speed on the bench is worth having. I say yeah. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 12:28 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference:Actually I made a post a couple of seconds after you about the same topic. Tried to delete it. Anyhows, is is that the best the Sox can do in pinch running situations! And I'm far from being a negative dude. Yeah it worked out, and yeah Salty was probably the fastest player on the bench, but sometimes you get bang-bang plays at home plate where speed can make the difference. Yeah you can hate me.
Posted by The-dude
As I stated on your thread, Salty was the only player on the bench.
I don't know what "hate" has got to do with it (cue Tina Turner). -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 1:36 AM EDT
Nice win and I'm happy Salty made it to the plate a tenth of a second before a terrible throw still almost got him however... With bases loaded 1 out and Pedroia then A-GON coming up I still think it was a terrible call by Bogar. That is the kind of move you make when the bottom of the lineup is coming up, not your best hitters !! -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 1:53 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference:Nice win and I'm happy Salty made it to the plate a tenth of a second before a terrible throw still almost got him however... With bases loaded 1 out and Pedroia then A-GON coming up I still think it was a terrible call by Bogar. That is the kind of move you make when the bottom of the lineup is coming up, not your best hitters !!
Posted by ALaGatorAL
The throw wasn't terrible IMO but was off to the firstbase side of the plate. A better throw would have had the runner.The bases weren't loaded since Salty scored from second. Bogar made a decision and the throw was not perfect. End of story. I'm glad that you are happy. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 2:17 AM EDT
In Response to The pinchrunner made the difference:Varitek probably doesn't score on the Ellsbury game-winning hit and might have been held at third. I'm not implying that it was a brilliant managerial move. It was just cool that an untypical substitution could be the margin of difference. Things like this make baseball great, especially when your team wins.
Posted by Sheriff-Rojas
Yes, but you are dismissing Tek's CBRA (catcher's base-running average:) -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 2:48 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference:In Response to The pinchrunner made the difference : Yes, but you are dismissing Tek's CBRA (catcher's base-running average:)
Posted by harnessCareful, Big Brother is watching. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 6:35 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference:In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference : The throw wasn't terrible IMO but was off to the firstbase side of the plate. A better throw would have had the runner.The bases weren't loaded since Salty scored from second. Bogar made a decision and the throw was not perfect. End of story. I'm glad that you are happy.
Posted by PawsoxPhil
Right, but what LaGator was saying was that the bases would have been loaded for Pedroia. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 7:20 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference:Cue the Tito haters!
Posted by jimdavis
hey jimbo,
take a break from trying to be the perfect fan; you're totally boring. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 7:25 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference:Actually I made a post a couple of seconds after you about the same topic. Tried to delete it. Anyhows, is that the best the Sox can do in pinch running situations! And I'm far from being a negative dude. Yeah it worked out, and yeah Salty was probably the fastest player on the bench, but sometimes you get bang-bang plays at home plate where speed can make the difference. Yeah you can hate me.
Posted by The-dude
here's an idea; based on the premise that jd crawford can't hit or play much defense, why not make him a permanent pinch runner.
that way he can get on base w/o hitting the ball, and ,who knows, he might even steal a base.
i like that, a 130 million dollar pinch runner. that just smells of excess. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 8:49 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference:In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference : hey jimbo, take a break from trying to be the perfect fan; you're totally boring.
Posted by the___yazzer
You are the one who is boring...one trick pony...jd crawford, that's not boring, is it? Don't like what I type, don't read it. Totally! -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 8:55 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference:In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference : hey jimbo, take a break from trying to be the perfect fan; you're totally boring.
Posted by the___yazzer
Here is boring, The last few posts from the Yazzer:
well, hammah, you're a total fraud as an intelligent poster.
you're living proof that one can live in a metropolis and still be a redneck.
what you mean 'we,' palin brains?
watching SLACKEY pitch. please add your own examples; and theo boot-lickers, please make sure you abuse the OP.
"the colon and garcia fools gold." well, they're better than the gold the sox's fool , theo, gave SLACKEY.hey god, pull my finger.
i disagree; i'm putting my money on jd crawford, with SLACKEY a close second.
disregard fivekatz; he's just another theo boot-licker. he's quite wordy, but all he ever says is that theo is a god; bow to the mighty theo.
maybe he's a clueless SOX fan; in which case he'll fit perfectly on this board.
~The Yazzer
And you have the nerve to call anyone else boring? Look in the mirror, toolbox. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 9:01 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference:Nice win and I'm happy Salty made it to the plate a tenth of a second before a terrible throw still almost got him however... With bases loaded 1 out and Pedroia then A-GON coming up I still think it was a terrible call by Bogar. That is the kind of move you make when the bottom of the lineup is coming up, not your best hitters !!
Posted by ALaGatorALAre you assuming that Ellsbury would have gotten on somehow for the bases to be loaded? I don't get it. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 9:22 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference:In Response to Re: The pinchrunner made the difference : The throw wasn't terrible IMO but was off to the firstbase side of the plate. A better throw would have had the runner.The bases weren't loaded since Salty scored from second. Bogar made a decision and the throw was not perfect. End of story. I'm glad that you are happy.
Posted by PawsoxPhilDon't know where to begin... First off, If Salty is held at third the bases would have been loaded. Second, if you thought that throw was off by just a little I suggest getting your eyes examined. Last, Bogar's decisions are historically incorrect, this time he found the Acorn !! -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 9:27 AM EDT
great post Jim. proof positive that the ignore button works great.
I'd like to send out kudo's to Tek for coming through with the basehit to even give us a chance to win it in the 9th. loved watching our guys jumping all over salty and els. positive momentum really does work. too bad that josh once again did not get the w for a great pitched game. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 9:27 AM EDT
It sounds to me like ALaGator is more of a Red Sox basher than a fan. It is nearly impossible for him to be happy. He's only happy when he is miserable. Might he be a closet Yankee troll or just a concern troll? -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 9:52 AM EDT
I see that you took MikeyintheBronx out of mothballs for the weekend series and the home stretch. Is it going to be another rendition of Good Cop ( Mikey) and Bad Cop ( Babe) like it was before? Did Harness give you the green light? The forum is getting too smart for your games. -
Re: The pinchrunner made the difference
posted at 8/3/2011 10:28 AM EDT
A good throw nails Salty at the plate.
I was surprised to even see Varitek hitting. As soon as Beckett was lifted, I figured Salty would have hit for Tek the previous AB.