The "STENCH" is coming from the decision process on "OLE NAPOLI".......

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    JD Drew missed 1 of every 4 games as a sox...no wonder you want napoli signed...

     

    he truly is the next JD Drew!



    So, "part time" players play 75% of the time now?

    Thank God you don't run a team...

     
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    for 14 million? what?  tell your boss you want full pay for showing 3/4 of the days..see what he says..

     
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    Anybody defending the Napoli offer is a fool and they know it. This thing has dragged on for 42 days. They are in love with a guy who beat up on the Red Sox pitching staff, someone who has a degenerative hip (similar to Arod), and someone who has zero leverage.

     
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    Anybody defending the Napoli offer is a fool and they know it. This thing has dragged on for 42 days. They are in love with a guy who beat up on the Red Sox pitching staff, someone who has a degenerative hip (similar to Arod), and someone who has zero leverage.




    you dont know the status of his hip. nobody here does. it could be a false alarm it may not be.. in any case im glad we're trying to protect ourselves and if we decide to part ways then so be it

     
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    Anybody defending the Napoli offer is a fool and they know it. This thing has dragged on for 42 days. They are in love with a guy who beat up on the Red Sox pitching staff, someone who has a degenerative hip (similar to Arod), and someone who has zero leverage.




    you dont know the status of his hip. nobody here does. it could be a false alarm it may not be.. in any case im glad we're trying to protect ourselves and if we decide to part ways then so be it

      As DAD would say......... "SON, where there is smoke, there is a bad hip" !!!

     
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    Anybody defending the Napoli offer is a fool and they know it. This thing has dragged on for 42 days. They are in love with a guy who beat up on the Red Sox pitching staff, someone who has a degenerative hip (similar to Arod), and someone who has zero leverage.




    you dont know the status of his hip. nobody here does. it could be a false alarm it may not be.. in any case im glad we're trying to protect ourselves and if we decide to part ways then so be it



    There was a report that his hip doesn't restrict him right now, but it could be an issue tomorrow, next year or 5 years from now.  Too difficult to predict.  The Sox want some protection against the "now" possibility.  It's not unreasonable for a team to protect themselves in these situations. 

     
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    no, they sox have waited 42 days because the hip is of no great concern....

     

    bootlickingly numbfully dumb




    ........ your so clueless. they haven't spent 42 days wondering if the hip will hold up or not.. they've spent 42 days working with Naps and his agent trying to revise the contract so both parties are happy and the RS are protected in the event that he breaks down. Just like normal contract negotiations it takes 2 to tango and 1 side can not get a deal worked out without the other.. Open your eyes geo. think logically for once and PLEASE!! stop your whining.

     
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    can you imagine if they did actually agree to a contract for any length of time bsed on the 13mil?

    as soon as he became injured (which he has done as much as hit homers) there would be a huge, why the fudge did we sign this guy for so much money?

     

    13mil would make him a very well paid player..

    arent you guys so grateful Ben kept the "slot money/pick" available by paying MN15 mil more than LaRouche signed for?

    FIASCO




    First of all, the Sox have not signed Napoli to anything as of yet, so your $15mill figure is in doubt. And there is no guarantee they ever will.

     

    It is also not a fiasco to adjust contract parameters based on health, and if negotiations drag on, so be it. I bet the Mets wish they had done similar due diligence on Jason Bay and Johan Santana

     

    And if the only drawback to a prolonged wait for Napoli / whoever is missing out on Adam LaRoche, your argument is pretty weak. LaRoche is FAR from an elite offensive 1B, and far below Napoli as a hitter. For all the 1B with at least 1000PA over the last 3 years, LaRoche was 22nd in wRC (Napoli was 8th). LaRoche was 21st in wOBA (Napoli was 8th again.) LaRoche was 16th in HRs. (Napoli was 9th.) LaRoche was 17th in OPS. (Napoli was 7th.) Oh, and LaRoche was 19th in WAR. (Napoli was 7th), in case you want to make an argument than LaRoche makes up for the offensive difference with defense. Also, over the last 3 years, LaRoche has all of 90 more plate appearances than Napoli, so let’s not pretend he makes up the difference with good health, either.

     

    So really, you are advocating not only giving up slot money and a draft pick, which every team in the league values (ask Bourn, Soriano and LaRoche if you doubt me), for the sake of bringing in the older and less productive player with a similar injury history. And you think it was a mistake to do so for what? Having a roster in place by mid-January? And this benefits the team how, again?

     

    The Sox should have passed on LaRoche no matter what. Is the only argument for LaRoche involves the fact that he is coming off a career year  Would you be such a strong pro-LaRoche advocate were he coming off his stellar injury-plagued 2011 campaign which netted him a .546OPS? Or his lackluster 2010, in which he was not injured and still only managed a .788OPS? I think we all get that your Adam LaRoche fascination has nothing to do with LaRoche himself, and everything to do with the fact that he was the last of other options, and therefore a necessity to support. Had the Sox pursued LaRoche instead of Napoli, you would be pro-Napoli. No one on planet Earth is as interested in Adam LaRoche as you pretend to be, including his own wife.  Gee, maybe that is why he had to settle for the contract he got from Washington, as they were the only team who could sign him without losing something.

     

    And by the way, before you pretend that you have always been a huge fan of Adam LaRoche and have longed for his return to Boston, your arguments for him will continue to look capricious until you learn how to spell his name…

     
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    can you imagine if they did actually agree to a contract for any length of time bsed on the 13mil?

    as soon as he became injured (which he has done as much as hit homers) there would be a huge, why the fudge did we sign this guy for so much money?

     

    13mil would make him a very well paid player..

    arent you guys so grateful Ben kept the "slot money/pick" available by paying MN15 mil more than LaRouche signed for?

    FIASCO




     

    First of all, the Sox have not signed Napoli to anything as of yet, so your $15mill figure is in doubt. And there is no guarantee they ever will.

     

    It is also not a fiasco to adjust contract parameters based on health, and if negotiations drag on, so be it. I bet the Mets wish they had done similar due diligence on Jason Bay and Johan Santana

     

    And if the only drawback to a prolonged wait for Napoli / whoever is missing out on Adam LaRoche, your argument is pretty weak. LaRoche is FAR from an elite offensive 1B, and far below Napoli as a hitter. For all the 1B with at least 1000PA over the last 3 years, LaRoche was 22nd in wRC (Napoli was 8th). LaRoche was 21st in wOBA (Napoli was 8th again.) LaRoche was 16th in HRs. (Napoli was 9th.) LaRoche was 17th in OPS. (Napoli was 7th.) Oh, and LaRoche was 19th in WAR. (Napoli was 7th), in case you want to make an argument than LaRoche makes up for the offensive difference with defense. Also, over the last 3 years, LaRoche has all of 90 more plate appearances than Napoli, so let’s not pretend he makes up the difference with good health, either.

     

    So really, you are advocating not only giving up slot money and a draft pick, which every team in the league values (ask Bourn, Soriano and LaRoche if you doubt me), for the sake of bringing in the older and less productive player with a similar injury history. And you think it was a mistake to do so for what? Having a roster in place by mid-January? And this benefits the team how, again?

     

    The Sox should have passed on LaRoche no matter what. Is the only argument for LaRoche involves the fact that he is coming off a career year  Would you be such a strong pro-LaRoche advocate were he coming off his stellar injury-plagued 2011 campaign which netted him a .546OPS? Or his lackluster 2010, in which he was not injured and still only managed a .788OPS? I think we all get that your Adam LaRoche fascination has nothing to do with LaRoche himself, and everything to do with the fact that he was the last of other options, and therefore a necessity to support. Had the Sox pursued LaRoche instead of Napoli, you would be pro-Napoli. No one on planet Earth is as interested in Adam LaRoche as you pretend to be, including his own wife.  Gee, maybe that is why he had to settle for the contract he got from Washington, as they were the only team who could sign him without losing something.

     

    And by the way, before you pretend that you have always been a huge fan of Adam LaRoche and have longed for his return to Boston, your arguments for him will continue to look capricious until you learn how to spell his name…

     



    That's taking him to the wood shed strong!

     
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    discount double slammed

     
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    discount double slammed



    Nah, that was full-priced!

     

    LOL

     
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      This needs to be resolved, this week !!!

     




    Why?  What's going on next week?

     



    Or the week after that or the week after that. There's nothing going on til pitchers and cathchers report--what's the rush. Kotchman will still be available and there will be no word on Ortiz's progress. BenC take your time---we are looking for record setting performances---everyone on the board knows the one record that might be broken is the number of days for JD to sign vs. the wait time for Nap to be signed. Now that the Yanks for sure aren't on the closck re. Soriano they may decide to make an offer on Nap and get him officially off the table.

    By the way how does that work: Is Nap officially avilable?  Not Available? If not when?

     
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    Anybody defending the Napoli offer is a fool and they know it. This thing has dragged on for 42 days. They are in love with a guy who beat up on the Red Sox pitching staff, someone who has a degenerative hip (similar to Arod), and someone who has zero leverage.



    Anybody claiming they know all aspects of this situation enough to make a statement as arrogant as this should realize they dont know as much as they think.

    Maybe BC offered him 1 yr at 8M with incentives and a vesting option for a 2nd year with games played. Maybe the MRI revealed a problem, but that problem shouldnt effect 2013 as it might 2014.

    With all that said, I wasnt in favor of giving a guy who plays less than JD Drew every year 1M less a year to play a position he doesnt really want to play. Hopefully this fiasco ends soon.

     
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    Anybody defending the Napoli offer is a fool and they know it. This thing has dragged on for 42 days. They are in love with a guy who beat up on the Red Sox pitching staff, someone who has a degenerative hip (similar to Arod), and someone who has zero leverage.

     

    False alarm huh? All of the sites have said that including both Boston papers. And why isn't a deal done, 44 days later?


    you dont know the status of his hip. nobody here does. it could be a false alarm it may not be.. in any case im glad we're trying to protect ourselves and if we decide to part ways then so be it

     




     
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    Anybody defending the Napoli offer is a fool and they know it. This thing has dragged on for 42 days. They are in love with a guy who beat up on the Red Sox pitching staff, someone who has a degenerative hip (similar to Arod), and someone who has zero leverage.

     

    False alarm huh? All of the sites have said that including both Boston papers. And why isn't a deal done, 44 days later?


    you dont know the status of his hip. nobody here does. it could be a false alarm it may not be.. in any case im glad we're trying to protect ourselves and if we decide to part ways then so be it

     



    And they never get a story wrong, do they....

     
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    Here's an article from the Massachusetts Republican (say, isn't that an oxymoron?)

    http://blog.masslive.com/redsoxmonster/2013/01/boston_red_sox_rumors_2013_red.html

     
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    Here's an article from the Massachusetts Republican (say, isn't that an oxymoron?)

    http://blog.masslive.com/redsoxmonster/2013/01/boston_red_sox_rumors_2013_red.html




    Four bs still thinks the chicken and beer story was made up...remember that argument?

     
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    More to come on the chicken and beer story in Francona's book. How important was it? We shall find out.



    i dont have to read it to know how i feel...beckett is gone, francona is gone, these are the guys who perpetuated the country club attitude and their removal speaks volumes....

     
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    More to come on the chicken and beer story in Francona's book. How important was it? We shall find out.

     



    i dont have to read it to know how i feel...beckett is gone, francona is gone, these are the guys who perpetuated the country club attitude and their removal speaks volumes....

     

     


    And I'd rather read Terry's opinion since he was closer to the situation.

     



    Geroem doesn't need any more info.

    He knows it all. Just ask him. He'll tell you...

     
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    Looks like the deal is almost done........  Please, do not let Ole Napoli do any heavy base running/sliding !!!

     
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    Looks like the deal is almost done........  Please, do not let Ole Napoli do any heavy base running/sliding !!!




    we'll have to worry about Papi doing that stuff moreso than Naps.... its a non-issue

     

     
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