The Vaunted Sox Offense - My Buttocks!

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    The Vaunted Sox Offense - My Buttocks!

    Again looking at the major American League contenders for this season:

    Been shut out:
    Yanks - 6
    Rangers - 7
    Angels - 11
    Tigers - 5
    Sox - 11

    Scored only 1 run:
    Yanks - 7
    Rangers - 10
    Angels - 18
    Tigers - 12
    Sox - 12

    I'd expect the Sox to be light years ahead of the Angels and I'm sure the Rays, but their  pitching has  been so much better than ours.  The Sox are not a clutch team.  They can put up crooked numbers to pile on and bloat the stats.  I'm looking forward to Monday night - the Pats.
     
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    Again looking at the major American League contenders for this season: Been shut out: Yanks - 6 Rangers - 7 Angels - 11 Tigers - 5 Sox - 11 Scored only 1 run: Yanks - 7 Rangers - 10 Angels - 18 Tigers - 12 Sox - 12 I'd expect the Sox to be light years ahead of the Angels and I'm sure the Rays, but their  pitching has  been so much better than ours.  The Sox are not a clutch team.  They can put up crooked numbers to pile on and bloat the stats.  I'm looking forward to Monday night - the Pats.
    Posted by frankn


    They certainly have issues and may not win it all this year but I thinkt its too early to give up.
     
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    Wow, I had no idea that the Sox have had that many games with 1 run or less.

    If your numbers are correct, out of 149 total games the Sox have scored 1 or less runs in 23 games. That sad total averages out to about one offensive shut down per week. Very nearly 1 out of every 6 games. How is that possible when their lineup features 4 MVP type players in Ells, Pedy, Agon, and Big Papi, and then there is Youk, who so many claim is a better choice than the Yankees Arod at 3rd?
     
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    another strike 3 to ag

    low and outside  he swings every time and misses

    cc  is about the biggest bust in rs histoty depending on how lackley finishes this yr

    this offense aint scaring anybody
     
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    YTD:  Gonzalez leads the team with the most strikeouts (18.5%) of the time and Scutaro leads the team with the least strikeouts (9.8%).  I would speculate that Gonzalez is at best a somewhat over average hitter, not a power hitter and over the course of the next (if he remains with the RS) few years will probably average .280-290's with mostly singles, some doubles and homeruns in the teens.  His RBI count should be reasonable simply because he bats in the an RBI producing slot.
     
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    Best.

    Team.

    EVAH!

    ...well, maybe not.
     
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    To lose 5 of 7 at this time of the season smells of, Oh well, we can get in via the wild card. Doesn't that just suck!. The manager has no idea how to motivate this team. Put C.C in the 2 spot [his normal position], move A.G. to clean-up, and Youk to the #6 spot. And tell every player that if they don't give a 100% effort, they'll be sent to Afghanistan for a little r.&r. 
     
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    Again looking at the major American League contenders for this season: Been shut out: Yanks - 6 Rangers - 7 Angels - 11 Tigers - 5 Sox - 11 Scored only 1 run: Yanks - 7 Rangers - 10 Angels - 18 Tigers - 12 Sox - 12 I'd expect the Sox to be light years ahead of the Angels and I'm sure the Rays, but their  pitching has  been so much better than ours.  The Sox are not a clutch team.  They can put up crooked numbers to pile on and bloat the stats.  I'm looking forward to Monday night - the Pats.
    Posted by frankn


    The Angels/Rays don't play half their games in a hitter's venue, do they?
    Look at the road pitching numbers.
     
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    In Response to The Vaunted Sox Offense - My Buttocks! : The Angels/Rays don't play half their games in a hitter's venue, do they? Look at the road pitching numbers.
    Posted by harness


    If the Sox play in a hitters park than why do they have so many one run games and shutouts against them?

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    Again looking at the major American League contenders for this season:

    Been shut out:
    Yanks - 6
    Rangers - 7
    Angels - 11
    Tigers - 5
    Sox - 11

    Scored only 1 run:
    Yanks - 7
    Rangers - 10
    Angels - 18
    Tigers - 12
    Sox - 12
     
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    In Response to The Vaunted Sox Offense - My Buttocks! : The Angels/Rays don't play half their games in a hitter's venue, do they? Look at the road pitching numbers.
    Posted by harness


    www.boston.com/community/persona.html?UID=0738e62a8ebddb2034ebb4032df15eeb&plckUserId=0738e62a8ebddb2034ebb4032df15eeb">
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    First: 10/12/2009
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    Again looking at the major American League contenders for this season:

    Been shut out:
    Yanks - 6
    Rangers - 7
    Angels - 11
    Tigers - 5
    Sox - 11

    Scored only 1 run:
    Yanks - 7
    Rangers - 10
    Angels - 18
    Tigers - 12
    Sox - 12

    If the Sox play in a hitters park than why are they getting shutout so often and scoring only 1 run in so many games?
     
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    When your team loses 1-0 you have to give the other teams pitching some credit.
     
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    In Response to Re: The Vaunted Sox Offense - My Buttocks!:
    In Response to Re: The Vaunted Sox Offense - My Buttocks! : www.boston.com/community/persona.html?UID=0738e62a8ebddb2034ebb4032df15eeb&plckUserId=0738e62a8ebddb2034ebb4032df15eeb " /> frankn Posts: 204 First: 10/12/2009 Last: 9/5/2011 Again looking at the major American League contenders for this season: Been shut out: Yanks - 6 Rangers - 7 Angels - 11 Tigers - 5 Sox - 11 Scored only 1 run: Yanks - 7 Rangers - 10 Angels - 18 Tigers - 12 Sox - 12 If the Sox play in a hitters park than why are they getting shutout so often and scoring only 1 run in so many games?
    Posted by MikeyintheBX


    Because good pitching stops good hitting.
    How many of these shutouts/one-run losses were at Fenway this year?
     
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    In Response to Re: The Vaunted Sox Offense - My Buttocks! : Because good pitching stops good hitting. How many of these shutouts/one-run losses were at Fenway this year?
    Posted by harness

    Must be a lot of good pitching in the AL.

    I don't know, how many were there?
     
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    In Response to Re: The Vaunted Sox Offense - My Buttocks! : Because good pitching stops good hitting. How many of these shutouts/one-run losses were at Fenway this year?
    Posted by harness


    Even among the great lineups, Hitting is streaky; Pitching, less so.
     
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    TB still has a sub 4.00 road ERA, a .724 OPS against away, and a 1.273 WHIP away. Yes, they are better at home, but their staff is solid home and away.

    As for the near meaningless shutout stat:
    TB 3 at home/2 away.

    The Sox hitters at Fenway:
    O runs: 3
    1 run:   4

     
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    Small sample sizes to show the Sox offense to not be productive. The Sox offense has been pretty strong on the road, in fact, one of the best road offenses in all of baseball. Who cares how many times they have been shut out? How many wins does the team have on the road? Stupid thread.
     
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    TB still has a sub 4.00 road ERA, a .724 OPS against away, and a 1.273 WHIP away. Yes, they are better at home, but their staff is solid home and away. As for the near meaningless shutout stat: TB 3 at home/2 away. The Sox hitters at Fenway: O runs: 3 1 run:   4
    Posted by moonslav59


    Well, then that means they have scored one run or less 16 times away from Fenway, as opposed to 7 times @ Fenway. This is what I meant by venue-affected offense. It's also why Boston has better pitching than the Rays on the road.

    Boston/Rays:
    3.57 ERA  1.187 WHIP .664 OPS/ 3.99 ERA  1.273 WHIP .724 OPS
     
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    Small sample sizes to show the Sox offense to not be productive. The Sox offense has been pretty strong on the road, in fact, one of the best road offenses in all of baseball. Who cares how many times they have been shut out? How many wins does the team have on the road? Stupid thread.
    Posted by dannycater


    Team is built to play on the road. It's backboned by good pitching.
     
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    To lose 5 of 7 at this time of the season smells of, Oh well, we can get in via the wild card. Doesn't that just suck!. The manager has no idea how to motivate this team. Put C.C in the 2 spot [his normal position], move A.G. to clean-up, and Youk to the #6 spot. And tell every player that if they don't give a 100% effort, they'll be sent to Afghanistan for a little r.&r. 
    Posted by spider-man


    this is the best post !!! This should be on the wall in the locker room !!!
     
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    Where is the pitching ,hitting,bullpen? The sox are back to there 70`s 80`s 90`s look.Spend money on nothing special,(Carl Croford),Get a great hitter(Mr. Ganzalez)Then watch the pitching staff fall apart.Then get nothing at the deadline!! It was a chance to get creative, a 3 team trade ,,Send a message to the clubhouse.I though something with the Dodgers,Houston,Giants,Marlins,were viable options. These guys are on wildcard vacation!!!!No heart !! They will win nothing in playoffs as they are!!! I`m pissed !!!!!!
     
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    In Response to Re: The Vaunted Sox Offense - My Buttocks! : Team is built to play on the road. It's backboned by good pitching.
    Posted by harness


    venue venue venue venue venue
     
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    Repeat it 1000 times and maybe it'll sink in with those who think Boston's hitting/pitching ratings are accurate.

    How many times does a catcher's relevance have to be repeated before youget it? I'll venture a couple of million times...and you'll still skim over them.
     
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    Bumping   -  due to new thread started over same subject matter.
    It appears the venue point is still being over-looked.

    What a shocker!!!
     
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    In Response to Re: The Vaunted Sox Offense - My Buttocks! : Because good pitching stops good hitting. How many of these shutouts/one-run losses were at Fenway this year?
    Posted by harness


    Even among the great lineups, Hitting is streaky; Pitching, less so.

     
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