Re: THEO will go all-out for GIRARDI? could he be there SCHILLING?
posted at 10/5/2013 12:16 PM EDT
In response to notin's comment:
In response to Joebreidey's comment:
In response to pinstripezac35's comment:
what's average about winning 3 rings as a player 1 as a mgr
and a MOY award
I'm not entirely sure what winning 3 rings as a player has to do with being a good manager
the question was what makes him average
if you don't think the expierences of being a CATCHER on WS winning teams could be helpful
or makes him different ( unaverage )
then we disagree
he did not improve FL's record when he got there,
did they give him MOY
what's avg about that
and he did not improve NY's record when he got there.
kind of a empty almost a shameful comment JB,
unless we go into the roster changes
didn't marlins dump a bunch of payroll once he was hired ?
were they not the youngest and lowest-paid team
how bout the fact he has managed both a small market & a big market team
does that make him average
1-If I were talking about a new hire, say Sandy Alomar, then I would say it is helpful. In referring to whether or not a manager that has been managing for 7 years, I can't see someone say he is average, and another person saying he is above average because he was a catcher 15 years ago. It is really just how he's done over the past 7 years that count. I mean, if Tek became your manager next year, and the NYY won 70 games, would he still be a good manager because he played catch once upon a time?
2-I will grant you that he did win MOTY.
3-FL did dump players, but he still had great talent on his team. You could argue that they were young, but it is Jacobs (.798), Uggla (.818), Hanley (.833), Miggy (.998), Willingham (.852), Dontrelle Willis (3.87), Josh Johnson (3.10), Anibel Sanchez (2.83), and Nolasco (4.82), and Olsen (4.04).
I don't see how you don't win 90 games with that team.
Most of those guys were 22 to 24at the time, and did become better players. His track record there would be why the Cubs would be interested.
Sveum was a stopgap we all knew would be cast aside at some point. And that is why they did not bow to public opinion and hire Ryne Sandberg instead. They ddi not want to hire Sanberg and cast aside a Chicago Icon so hastily. But who cares about Dale Sveum? Throw him away.
didnt we? he was our first choice before BV....im still confused as to why this guy was a hot commodity...at least valentine had some success at the mlb coaching level